Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

[xekon]

I have all of the images from the first page saved if you need them Ashura

[genjosanzo8]

i attempted to do it with the dragon ball series and the result is so far than the japanese dragon box that i cannot imagine why toei can't do that

Spoiler:

here using dragon ball kai international version (to sharp like in the japanese) but before color correction

and here another exemple with color correction

[clutchins]

According to certain sources, the Hong Kong VCD release of DBZ has colors that are close to the OJB masters.

[lansing]

i attempted to do it with the dragon ball series and the result is so far than the japanese dragon box that i cannot imagine why toei can't do that
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here using dragon ball kai international version (to sharp like in the japanese) but before color correction

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and here another exemple with color correction

The first part of dragon ball kai is fixable, but the second part, no. It has to be Toei themselves to do it.

Here are the thumbnails I got from the Toei's website some time ago, which I believe are the original cel screen cap. Your corrections are not even close.

[genjosanzo8]

yes i know and these screens i have made are not the final result, i have just delete the green tint on the last screen not other tints like red....i have discovered better filter and try to approaching these wonderfull result on the toei screen cap.....but i think it will be the same to all series....dragon box have on the left a sort of a veil image like on the screen

[Ajay]

The first part of dragon ball kai is fixable, but the second part, no. It has to be Toei themselves to do it.

Well, that's 100% not true. You just have to approach things differently. You cannot fix Kai through simple colour balance changes. To achieve their palette, they individually alter several colour channels. To reverse this, you also have to do the same. It's not particularly hard, honestly. It can just be a little time consuming depending on the scene.



I've been working on the international set a little now and then. It's nice not to have to deal with the terrible sharpening they added to the Japanese version.

Play around with selective colour as well as colour balance. You'll get great results. Generally, once one scene in an episode is done, your settings will pretty much work for the rest of it. You'll run into complications whenever Piccolo is on-screen, though. They made a conscious effort to fuck his colours up as much as humanly possible.

[genjosanzo8]

thanks for advise ....don't forget that the international version doesn't correct boo eyes
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... start=1220

in the japanese they correct to red

[lansing]

The first part of dragon ball kai is fixable, but the second part, no. It has to be Toei themselves to do it.

Well, that's 100% not true. You just have to approach things differently. You cannot fix Kai through simple colour balance changes. To achieve their palette, they individually alter several colour channels. To reverse this, you also have to do the same. It's not particularly hard, honestly. It can just be a little time consuming depending on the scene.



I've been working on the international set a little now and then. It's nice not to have to deal with the terrible sharpening they added to the Japanese version.

Play around with selective colour as well as colour balance. You'll get great results. Generally, once one scene in an episode is done, your settings will pretty much work for the rest of it. You'll run into complications whenever Piccolo is on-screen, though. They made a conscious effort to fuck his colours up as much as humanly possible.

If you are to adjust every color for every single scene, which I believe you probably are, then your color correcting approach is not practical. This is the same reason I gave up on this, for one, there're not enough reference, and two, there're literally thousands of scene changes for every episode, you will need months and months and months to do this.

[Ajay]

I quite literally wrote in my reply that you don't have to do it scene by scene. You just have to be careful about Piccolo. It's not impractical, but you will have to sink a little bit of time into it to get it right. That's pretty much the case with anything like this, though.

[genjosanzo8]

i know i will never obtain the true color but the better i can do

[lansing]

I quite literally wrote in my reply that you don't have to do it scene by scene. You just have to be careful about Piccolo. It's not impractical, but you will have to sink a little bit of time into it to get it right. That's pretty much the case with anything like this, though.

I don't think you quite understand what I mean. So here are the example.

These screenshots were cap from episode 128 from kai




Now try to match both cap to the reference above and see if you can fit both with one setting or similar.

[genjosanzo8]

comparing to your screen goku and goten have not exactly the same color of outfits..... so it is difficult to judge

[Ajay]

Now try to match both cap to the reference above and see if you can fit both with one setting or similar.

No, I get what you're saying, but you're exaggerating.

Same adjustment layers over both images produces fine results:

[genjosanzo8]

which filter can you use for this correction? i have a filter for color balance but not for individual color

[Ajay]

Not sure what you're editing with. I edit the M2TS files directly in Adobe After Effects using the "Selective Colour", "Colour Balance", and "Saturation" layer styles.

[xekon]

for those that asked for the pics, here they are: http://www.mediafire.com/download/6bcyx ... correct.7z

extract the archive with 7zip and then just open the Kanzenshuu html web page in the folder and you should be able to see the guide with pics.

[SSGSS Goku]

My 1st attempt at this with Kai The Final Chapters episode 99

Spoiler:

I think you can tell, but just in case you can't, the left is the original and the right is my color correction. I wasn't going for it looking exactly like how the cel does, so it's not perfect to how it originally looked in Z, but I'm very happy with the outcome. The only things wrong with it are the opening, ending, eyecatches, and title card, which is what I expected

[clutchins]

I must have missed something in the last week or two but why are no embedded images loading on the forum?

[SSGSS Goku]

If you're talking about on the front page, then the images are just not available. xekon posted a file with all of the images

[clutchins]

I caught that, but I can't even see your image.