DragonBall Z: The Room 29 Productions Dub

Steven Perry · Post by **Steven Perry** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:07 am

Behold...

The Real Saiyan Showdown!

... And I hope the decision isn't made for 'home-made' music...

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:21 am

Steven Perry wrote:... And I hope the decision isn't made for 'home-made' music...

How would you define "home-made?" Of course, we're not going to go putting death metal bands or anything in there, a-la FUNimation's movie 4 and 5. I just think we should be a little more creative than just using the original Japanese BGM.

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:45 am

SSj Kaboom wrote: I just think we should be a little more creative than just using the original Japanese BGM.

This is a pretty dicey statement considering one of the key elements to making a 'good' dub is to actually keep the original BGM, unless in the rare instance where you can do better which considering what it is, how long its been around etc, and the budget you're working from, you're really not going to be able to do that.

future_trunks · Post by **future_trunks** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:00 pm

I didn't want to put this in the auditions thread becasue it's not an audition, but How the HFIL does Megauploads work? I keep trying to see other downloads and it's really confusing

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:03 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Steven Perry wrote:... And I hope the decision isn't made for 'home-made' music...
How would you define "home-made?" Of course, we're not going to go putting death metal bands or anything in there, a-la FUNimation's movie 4 and 5. I just think we should be a little more creative than just using the original Japanese BGM.

No, don't use other music than the original!

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:05 pm

I'd like to see this with the original music.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:40 pm

Well, using the original music seems to be the widespread craving, so far. Let's leave the discussion open for a little longer before any decisions are made.

future_trunks wrote:I didn't want to put this in the auditions thread becasue it's not an audition, but How the HELL (we don't use that word here, sonny) does Megauploads work? I keep trying to see other downloads and it's really confusing

Honestly, megauploads seems to be a pain in the butt. It keeps redirecting me to ads when I'm trying to download stuff. If you're just trying to download other people's stuff, then just keep skipping the ads and hitting "back" if you need to. If you're trying to upload your stuff, then I'd suggest something less anti-user like RapidShare or especially FileFront[/i].

future_trunks · Post by **future_trunks** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:45 pm

Yea I'm trying to get mine up on Megauploads because everyone else is and seems good but its really getting confusing

I'm also trying to look at some others but whatever.

HFIL

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:36 pm

If you guys have problems with file hosting, give me a pm. I can take your files through email, AIM, *or* yim (mabye even msn). Filefront serves me pretty well; I haven't had any major problems with it plus its very free.

-Rick

Steven Perry · Post by **Steven Perry** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:53 pm

sangofe wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:I just think we should be a little more creative than just using the original Japanese BGM.
No, don't use other music than the original!

Keeping the Japanese BGM fully intact shouldn't even be considered; it will take away a large portion of the uniqueness, which was the whole point of this project to begin with (and having fun, I guess

). What's more, there'll be less of a feeling of achievement after we've completed it. The idea is just so lazy-ass... if we're not going to personalise it in terms of the music, we might as well just leave all sound effects intact. Heck, we might as well just forget about dubbing it, so we can get it as 'close to the original as possible'.

Uh-oh...

With all this talk about Japan and its greatness at DaizenshuuEX, I think I'm turning Japanese...

*Jumps out of window*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

*Flies*

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:03 pm

Steven Perry wrote:
sangofe wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:I just think we should be a little more creative than just using the original Japanese BGM.
No, don't use other music than the original!
Keeping the Japanese BGM fully intact shouldn't even be considered; it will take away a large portion of the uniqueness, which was the whole point of this project to begin with (and having fun, I guess ). What's more, there'll be less of a feeling of achievement after we've completed it. The idea is just so lazy-ass... if we're not going to personalise it in terms of the music, we might as well just leave all sound effects intact. Heck, we might as well just forget about dubbing it, so we can get it as 'close to the original as possible'.

Uh-oh...

With all this talk about Japan and its greatness at DaizenshuuEX, I think I'm turning Japanese...

*Jumps out of window*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

*Flies*

It's not a case of being Japanese or thinking Japan is the greatest (I am not really fond of the place, myself), it's just that leaving in the original music is probably a good idea because, to begin with, it was considered and placed in appropriatly, and are we honestly going to do any better? Ain't broke, don't fix it.

Replacing the sound effects and music basically would represent everything that is wrong about anime dubs (Not that I'm saying most anime dubs are like that, because it's not true, but rather because there are some like that and they are a bad example of dubbing). Yet you're entertaining the notion of trying to keep it as 'japanese' as possible by keeping in suffixes and Japanese name attacks etc?

Didn't they already do a music replacement in the new FUNi dub? Why bother changin Head cha-la? I say if you're going to change the music, the SFX, all of that, don't bother keeping accurate and just make up whatever the sam hell you want. Do a parody dub for cryin' out loud, atleast if they are badly acted and seem amateurish, it isn't to such a painfully embarrasing level.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:37 pm

I do agree with some of the things Mr. Perry said (obviously before he began to fly). I think since this is going to be a new dub so we should consider ways to keep it fresh and different from the other ones out there. Keeping elements like the original bgm is fine, but keep in mind that this isn't in the shadow of the original. This is a fresh take..or at least I think its going to be. If we keep too much of the original elements, its going to look like we are mimicing the original (not making a dub of it) above anything else ..
-Rick

KinoFourpaws · Post by **KinoFourpaws** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:22 am

Lavender Saiyan (on the Auditions thread) wrote:I've decided not to try out...I have no chance. Aot of these guys are too good & suiting. Like pros. Good luck everyone.

Aww...

I would really encourage you to at least try. Lord knows we'll need as many people as possible try out. It'll give us voice directors more options when choosing people for parts (which is always a good thing, I assure you)... and who knows, you may even end up landing a part. I ask that you at least give it a shot; you may be better than you think you are! (I know I didn't really like what I came up with...

)

theoriginalbilis · Post by **theoriginalbilis** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:40 am

Once I get a new microphone on Tuesday, you guys'll get to hear my:

Piccolo
Kaio-Sama
Son Goku
Tullece
Shenlong
The twins (Raizin and Rakusei)
Haiya Dragon
Yamcha

So excited!!!

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:37 am

Steven Perry wrote:
sangofe wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:I just think we should be a little more creative than just using the original Japanese BGM.
No, don't use other music than the original!
Keeping the Japanese BGM fully intact shouldn't even be considered; it will take away a large portion of the uniqueness, which was the whole point of this project to begin with (and having fun, I guess ). What's more, there'll be less of a feeling of achievement after we've completed it. The idea is just so lazy-ass... if we're not going to personalise it in terms of the music, we might as well just leave all sound effects intact. Heck, we might as well just forget about dubbing it, so we can get it as 'close to the original as possible'.

Exactly my reasoning. We're not making some professional release; we're doing this dub for own own entertainment. So why not personalize it a bit? We're already sticking close to the original by not straying far in terms of dialogue. BGM should be one of the more unique things.

...and nobody ever suggested replacing Cha La Head Cha La with anything.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:00 pm

Do you guys even know how your going to dub over the movie without taking out the BGM?

Steven Perry · Post by **Steven Perry** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:01 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:...and nobody ever suggested replacing Cha La Head Cha La with anything.

I've just had an idea. Maybe we can make our own song... with our own lyrics (which pertains to either the DaizEX forums, or Dragonball Z).

Little Lemmy's good at that sort of thing (remember his Drunk DaizEX poem?).

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Do you guys even know how your going to dub over the movie without taking out the BGM?

Get the BGM from CDs.

Mr. Announcer · Post by **Mr. Announcer** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:03 pm

The thing is, one of the biggest problems that people had with the FUNi dub was that they did NOT keep the original music, and since our idea was to create a better dub it would make sense for us to use the original music. But that's just my opinion. I know that doesn't leave much room for creativity in that department, but I guess we could still mess with the themes a little in terms of getting someone to sing it or using a different version. Come to think of it, what about Marugoto? Finding a karaoke version of that is probably not easy or maybe even not possible...

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:42 pm

theoriginalbilis wrote:Once I get a new microphone on Tuesday, you guys'll get to hear my:

Piccolo
Kaio-Sama
Son Goku
Tullece
Shenlong
The twins (Raizin and Rakusei)
Haiya Dragon
Yamcha

So excited!!!

Oh, we shall see my friend.. We shall see..

But seriously, how come there were a lot of people willing to do voice work but only a few voices up..?

I'm going to put my "official" auditions soon enough so don't worry your little heads...

-Rick

Eclipse · Post by **Eclipse** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:22 pm

The thing is, one of the biggest problems that people had with the FUNi dub was that they did NOT keep the original music, and since our idea was to create a better dub it would make sense for us to use the original music. But that's just my opinion. I know that doesn't leave much room for creativity in that department, but I guess we could still mess with the themes a little in terms of getting someone to sing it or using a different version. Come to think of it, what about Marugoto? Finding a karaoke version of that is probably not easy or maybe even not possible...

Regarding the ending themes, I think it should just be left in. Cha-La Head Cha-La could replaced with that Jungle Remix or the 2005 version, or like somebody said, it could be sung by one of us.

Little Lemmy's good at that sort of thing (remember his Drunk DaizEX poem?).

No. What happened to it?