On-Topic thread of Awesomeness!

[Gozar]

The movie will be decent adaption.
It won't suck, but it won't be great.
Not a bad one, but not the greatest adaption.

Probably will be. But not a DragonBall Movie. It doesn't matter if it's a GREAT movie. That doesn't mean it's even a passable DB Movie.

There, bolded new words to fit in with reference to The Punisher

An adaption needs to have more similarities to it's original. All this is is a general concept of DB. It's not enough.

[Chrono Trigger]

Goku does have his Saiyan appetite, he likes to fight, He isn't very bright and he's got all that "Heroic" whatever stuff...BUT since they added in him liking Chi Chi and wanting to not have to hide his abilities...That completely breaks the deal?

[Pitzu]

Goku does have his Saiyan appetite, he likes to fight, He isn't very bright and he's got all that "Heroic" whatever stuff...BUT since they added in him liking Chi Chi and wanting to not have to hide his abilities...That completely breaks the deal?

To them, yes.
Because, deep down, they want a perfect adaption.
And they just wont accept it

[Chrono Trigger]

The guy had 3 lines of dialog in the trailer and people just condemn him to death.

[Gozar]

Goku does have his Saiyan appetite, he likes to fight, He isn't very bright and he's got all that "Heroic" whatever stuff...BUT since they added in him liking Chi Chi and wanting to not have to hide his abilities...That completely breaks the deal?

Those are major aspects of his character. His naivety is what makes him Goku.

[Chrono Trigger]

Those are major aspects of his character. His naivety is what makes him Goku.

Did you read the exchange between him and Bulma? "Are you Piccolo?" and "Did you try Master?" don't do anything for you?

[Rena Rune]

I guess the Dub can't be considered Dragon Ball either since it has as many changes as the movie...If not more. Cool

How?

Goku does have his Saiyan appetite, he likes to fight, He isn't very bright and he's got all that "Heroic" whatever stuff...BUT since they added in him liking Chi Chi and wanting to not have to hide his abilities...That completely breaks the deal?

If this script is real then he's not like Goku at all. I like how it's okay to make "positive" judgements based on what little we seen, but not negative ones, which are based off a lot more experience as to how hollywood tends to work.

[Gozar]

To them, yes.
Because, deep down, they want a perfect adaption.
And they just wont accept it

Well excuse me for not wanting the character I love bastardized. I could care less about the storyline being different. That would be good if the characters were the way they're supposed to be. It's a shame that this Forum will become more and more flooded with ignorant supporters. You seriously have not had one legitimate defense of this Movie. All you do is put down the negativity.

Did you read the exchange between him and Bulma? "Are you Piccolo?" and "Did you try Master?" don't do anything for you?

It's not enough. We already know he's a horny teenage boy and wants to hide his power. The latter is more of a Gohan than Goku.

[Chrono Trigger]

How?

Oh don't mind that I was just trying to be funny.

If this script is real then he's not like Goku at all. I like how it's okay to make "positive" judgements based on what little we seen, but not negative ones, which are based off a lot more experience as to how hollywood tends to work.

Nobody said people couldn't be negative! This entire time I've been trying to figure out WHY people can't just view this as an alternate universe? Even if someone said you can't make negative comments that wouldn't stop anybody from doing it anyway right?

It's not enough.

Well it's only two small examples pulled from the script. Who knows how it could turn out? (Besides JAPPO of course.)

[Innagadadavida]

Well excuse me for not wanting the character I love bastardized. I could care less about the storyline being different. That would be good if the characters were the way they're supposed to be. It's a shame that this Forum will become more and more flooded with ignorant supporters. You seriously have not had one legitimate defense of this Movie.

Because somebody likes a movie you don't that makes them ignorant?

[Pitzu]

Dude
I can't DEFEND THE MOVIE

IT ISNT OUT YET
I KNOW NOTHING EXCEPT RUMORS AND A TRAILER

[Gozar]

Because somebody likes a movie you don't that makes them ignorant?

When they speak ignorantly. Yes.

Dude
I can't DEFEND THE MOVIE

IT ISNT OUT YET
I KNOW NOTHING EXCEPT RUMORS AND A TRAILER

You've heard enough. Defend what you've heard from Goku.

[The Tori-bot]

"Just because my name is Chi-Chi doesn't mean I'm an idiot."

This is an autistic teenager level of writing Come on.

What is it with you and autism?

[Pitzu]

Because somebody likes a movie you don't that makes them ignorant?

When they speak ignorantly. Yes.

Dude
I can't DEFEND THE MOVIE

IT ISNT OUT YET
I KNOW NOTHING EXCEPT RUMORS AND A TRAILER

You've heard enough. Defend what you've heard from Goku.

I have, logically.

[Rena Rune]

Nobody said people couldn't be negative! This entire time I've been trying to figure out WHY people can't just view this as an alternate universe?

There are explanations for this but like Transformers fans, some people here aren't listening.

Just because it's an alternate universe doesn't mean it should not be more faithful to the original. As the "first" big budget live action movie, it should stick to the original. If we got a series of movies, then a new take on it would make sense.

Basically you shouldn't try to change things drastically when going to a new medium. You can't say Dragonball Evolution is a new take on Dragonball because Dragonball doesn't "Exist" in the medium it's presented in, and it's hardly an update of one of those kooky low budget asian dealies.

Basically I can't understand why you're hiding behind "Alternate universe" as an excuse. Not to mention you're using "this is a different dragonball" to defend how it's the exact fucking same shit as every hollywood popcorn flick.

It's bastardised to hell and back. It's not a creative new take, just a poor adaption of the original.

I hate "alternate universe" excuses because if they hold nothing can EVER be a poor adaption. You need a standard.

[Gozar]

I have, logically.

Really? Because all I hear is. "It's an adaption"

[Chrono Trigger]

There are explanations for this but like Transformers fans, some people here aren't listening.

Just because it's an alternate universe doesn't mean it should not be more faithful to the original. As the "first" big budget live action movie, it should stick to the original. If we got a series of movies, then a new take on it would make sense.

Basically you shouldn't try to change things drastically when going to a new medium. You can't say Dragonball Evolution is a new take on Dragonball because Dragonball doesn't "Exist" in the medium it's presented in, and it's hardly an update of one of those kooky low budget asian dealies.

Basically I can't understand why you're hiding behind "Alternate universe" as an excuse. Not to mention you're using "this is a different dragonball" to defend how it's the exact fucking same shit as every hollywood popcorn flick.

It's bastardised to hell and back. It's not a creative new take, just a poor adaption of the original.

I hate "alternate universe" excuses because if they hold nothing can EVER be a poor adaption. You need a standard.

Well first of all Rena you don't have to curse me out! We're just having a harmless discussion. Nobody is hiding behind "an alternate" universe that just how SOME people choose to view it. As for a standard? How about the standard of "It's just a movie and it'll come out and be on DVD in no time so it's not that serious!"?

[Acid_Reign]

Now you're misrepresenting me. I never said he was the 'worst'. Ed Wood Jr is the worst (there's no dispute about that).

You said “some of the worst directing I've ever seen.” Okay, so you don’t think he’s the worst, but bad enough to say that? My point still stands: replace Nolan with TDK and it’s no longer a misinterpretation, but your accusations are still ridiculous.

I'm just saying that Nolan is very bad. Like, the entire film being idiotically dark. Too dark to clearly see the action, or even what's going on in the scene.

I didn’t find anything particularly difficult to discern (aside from maybe the scenes in cellphone-vision, but other than that…).

And how about, showing how Batman entered the room? I can think of at least two scenes where Batman's not there, then he is. Now, these scenes could have been done really well - and have added a sense of stealth and tension, like by showing Batman flitting from shadow to shadow, sneaking behind a thug, jumping down from the rafters - anything - but the lack of such scenes just smacks of incompetent direction.

It would have been cool, sure, but is it essential? No. It’s just one of the many different ways of portraying Batman.

Further, the film doesn't move quickly enough in most spots, but in others jumps around so fast that the scene ends before it could make a point of any kind.

Such as?

Urgh, that was just terrible. I don't understand why Dent was even there. (Yeah it was supposedly Joker's big plan, which didn't make any sense.)

Why would it make sense to anyone but him? He’s a psychopath.

Not enough time spent with Dent to endear him as a character, not enough time spent changing him evil (that took one scene) but too much time spent on him for just killing him off at the end.

I agree that Two-Face was underutilized; he deserved his own film.

Oh well. At least it was better than 'Begins'.

That’s the only good thing you have to say about it?

[Kaboom]

Wowie, I leave for like a half-hour, and the entire thread's all gone to hell.

I was going to try to rake together a little composite description of movie-Goku's personality as we know see it, but... I'm not sure if it would do any good.

[Pitzu]

I have, logically.

Really? Because all I hear is. "It's an adaption"

Have you noticed me say that Chatku CANT'T be Goku because of the situations in which he was raised?