English Dragon Box Release

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:36 pm

I'd like to re-state my willingness to temporarily lock the thread if the off-topicness continues...

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:36 pm

SSVegetto wrote:
penguintruth wrote:I wonder if there's any chance of getting these extras on an "extras disc" in each set that just has the extras alloted to that volume.
Well, it is only going to make your head hurt. Just speculating and speculating. I can only suggest we just stop posting for a while and wait. But if you want you can continue to speculate. I don't see the point. It's up to you.

I'm going to try and focus on something else. They already said the set was 6 discs. 7 eps, there is just no room. Why are video extras so important? We are finally getting full screen DBZ episodes, which is important. There are tons of extras on a bunch of other dbz dvds. There already has been interviews with voice actors and stuff. What good is another one going to do you?

Most extras are just annoying advertisements.

First, as far as interviews, I want interviews with Japanese staff, not the horrible English voice actors. Most of them don't even seem to understand the characters they're playing half the time, so why should I care what they have to say about it?

But, that's more about the booklet rather than video interviews. I'm just guessing that Funimation will try to pad the discs with their own special "behind the scenes" nonesense.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:43 pm

penguintruth wrote:
SSVegetto wrote:
penguintruth wrote:I wonder if there's any chance of getting these extras on an "extras disc" in each set that just has the extras alloted to that volume.
Well, it is only going to make your head hurt. Just speculating and speculating. I can only suggest we just stop posting for a while and wait. But if you want you can continue to speculate. I don't see the point. It's up to you.

I'm going to try and focus on something else. They already said the set was 6 discs. 7 eps, there is just no room. Why are video extras so important? We are finally getting full screen DBZ episodes, which is important. There are tons of extras on a bunch of other dbz dvds. There already has been interviews with voice actors and stuff. What good is another one going to do you?

Most extras are just annoying advertisements.

First, as far as interviews, I want interviews with Japanese staff, not the horrible English voice actors. Most of them don't even seem to understand the characters they're playing half the time, so why should I care what they have to say about it?

But, that's more about the booklet rather than video interviews. I'm just guessing that Funimation will try to pad the discs with their own special "behind the scenes" nonesense.

Jesus Christ, would it really be that bad if they decided to have their own employees give their own insight on the show? What would be so bad about Funi doing a behind the scenes featurette about how they do the show?

More importantly, I doubt that Funi would go to the trouble of doing interviews with the Japanese cast. It's actually reasonable to expect interviews with Dub cast members.

RoarkVegeta · Post by **RoarkVegeta** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:48 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:I'd like to re-state my willingness to temporarily lock the thread if the off-topicness continues...

Sorry Boom Boom Pow. I myself am getting tired of it.

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:48 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
More importantly, I doubt that Funi would go to the trouble of doing interviews with the Japanese cast. It's actually reasonable to expect interviews with Dub cast members.

I agree with you here.

laserkid · Post by **laserkid** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:51 pm

I don't mind interviews with the dub cast as long as this isn't to the detriment of the Japanese extras.

Though I will say that because this set is aimed at fans of the Japanese original primarily, it wouldn't be beyond the pail for them to do some new interviews with the Japanese cast aimed at their english speaking fans either.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:54 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Jesus Christ, would it really be that bad if they decided to have their own employees give their own insight on the show? What would be so bad about Funi doing a behind the scenes featurette about how they do the show?

More importantly, I doubt that Funi would go to the trouble of doing interviews with the Japanese cast. It's actually reasonable to expect interviews with Dub cast members.

Like I said, the Dragon Box booklet already has cast interviews and thoughts from them, so as long as they're translated, I should be fine.

And what would the point of Funimation doing behind the senes features with their own staff if they plan to not touch anything they were given? Weren't some of those extra videos in earlier sets about their "remaster" process?

I don't know for sure, since I wasn't going to buy the faux-"remaster" sets.

Super Sayian Prime · Post by **Super Sayian Prime** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:56 pm

In terms of extras with the Japanese cast, the most you can hope for is if Toei did some stuff on their releases, and for FUNimation to sub it like they've done for other series/movies/OVAs/etc.

penguintruth wrote:[snip]

Sorry about that, seems I had mistaken you for someone else

EDIT- As for the extras on the Season Sets, FUNimation dropped the Remaster feature after the first one. Probably because of backlash.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:04 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:In terms of extras with the Japanese cast, the most you can hope for is if Toei did some stuff on their releases, and for FUNimation to sub it like they've done for other series/movies/OVAs/etc.

penguintruth wrote:[snip]
Sorry about that, seems I had mistaken you for someone else

EDIT- As for the extras on the Season Sets, FUNimation dropped the Remaster feature after the first one. Probably because of backlash.

It's all right, lol. I'll admit, I do have some controversial opinions at times, though.

I'm with laserkid in that, I'm not totally against interviews with the dub cast as long as it's not to the detriment of the Japanese extras. I personally have no interest in hearing from the dub cast, but if they can fit that stuff on there without effecting the video quality of the show itself, I can always just not watch that part.

I didn't want to give the impression that because I dislike the dub there shouldn't be any dub extras at all, just that I'd rather them concentrate more on the Japanese extras. In my opinion, they take precedence.

SSVegetto · Post by **SSVegetto** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:17 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:@Vegetto - Why dont you like the scouters and the dioramas?

Well, it is sort of a Kid's toy. And it would make me look weaboo. I couldn't walk down the street wearing walkie talkie scouters without people laughing at me. As a collectible, maybe it is a rare thing. Trust me, I don't want the whole world to know I love dragonball. Because when I did in high school. They almost endlessly made fun of me. So now, I make sure not to wear dragonball z tshirst, or stuff like that. Then again, I'm saying I wouldn't mind having it as a extra. But what is more important to me is the episodes. Not some toys. So it's not that I don't hate it. And by the way what is a "diorama"?

Kendamu wrote:Why is it insane to want a re-dub? They've pretty well already done the impossible by having a US DBox release.

That is just it. You answered your own question almost. They already got what they want(Dragonbox), now all of a sudden they want more, more, more, more , and more. They are just being down right picky to want a redub. They are just being spoiled. There is nothing wrong with the voices( I'm not talking about script), it's just some people nit pick them. Or say oh that doesn't fit the character's voice. They would never say that if they didnt see the Japanese dub. Furthermore, they have the Japanese track. And if they are actually that picky about English dub's. Then they can chose that track with the Japanese option. Picky, I mean , they have no idea what a horrible dub is. I've seen horrible dubs. I've seen a fandub, where the guy did one voice through the entire thing, for all the characters. Now that is a horrible dub.

And lastly, I would love to see them try to do a better job. These people are professional voice actors that get payed actual money. I would love to see them try to do a better voice acting job. Nobody nitpicks loney toons cartoons about voice acting. They are just being very spoiled. And wanting a redub is just down right picky.

Also some people would say to this argument "I would love to see them try to do a better voice acting job" that it like saying you shouldn't complain about a car's brake being faulty because you can't make a brake for a car yourself"

No, that isn't the same thing to that argument because the voice acting was complete, and done and it works. That is a terrible example that someone would use. It's more like it works but it doesn't stop at a dime for your exact preference

And also according to Sean Schemmel. He makes a remark on how he put his whole heart into Goku and he worked very hard. This was one of the interviews in the DBZ ultimate uncut release.

And it was a very hard character for him to do because during that time in his life he was going through some tough times. And all of a sudden he had to play Goku, who was innocent , funny, selfless, etc.

I don't remember it word for word. But I believe he put his heart into it.

Now the only thing I want, is what they already did, which is the 3 audio tracks. I don't ask for much. That is what the Dragonbox should have.

Also another thing about the Dragon Box

The spine art itself isn't complete. They have 7 eps per 6 discs. They are cramming it in. Can't you anybody tell? Are they aware of the Japanese Dragonbox? That it was bought in bulk? A huge box came to your door. That was why it was called the Dragon box to begin with. You spent like $700 for the box for DBZ volume 1. That is why they gave you some nice freebies with it. I'm telling if they want, they can expect it. But I'm just telling them, don't be surprised if they don't get all this stuff they want. And for $80 to $50 , how many goodies do they expect? Oh well.

penguintruth wrote:First, as far as interviews, I want interviews with Japanese staff, not the horrible English voice actors. Most of them don't even seem to understand the characters they're playing half the time, so why should I care what they have to say about it?

But, that's more about the booklet rather than video interviews. I'm just guessing that Funimation will try to pad the discs with their own special "behind the scenes" nonesense.

What else do you want? Is there anything more you could possibly want? I doubt that would satisfy your needs. Let us know how much more stuff you want. I will be very interested to hear you out. Perhaps they can get interviews with the French dub audio cast too, while they are at it. In fact why don't they interview every country that ever possibly did the dub except themselves.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:28 pm

@Vegetto - If you like something this much, WHY would you be ashamed of it?

I wouldnt wear the scouter outside either...but thats just bc i think they are kind of crappy looking, but if a company made some well crafted scouters, Id have a green one on 24/7.

The diorama is the toy thing where its the lookout, and GT characters and movie characters that Japan ot when they sent in their 'zeni' from buying the single releases i believe.

EDIT: Heres part of it

http://www.kanzentai.com/dvd.php?id=dbz_presents
http://www.kanzentai.com/dvd.php?id=db_presents
http://www.kanzentai.com/dvd.php?id=movie_present
http://www.kanzentai.com/dvd.php?id=dbgt_present

And for the DragonBoxes, there were: a tenkaichi budokai scene from DB, A Goku figure, a Piccolo figure, a dragon radar remote, and The scouters.

SSVegetto · Post by **SSVegetto** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:39 pm

I'm not ashamed to like Dragonball Z. But I just don't go announcing it in public. I just don't want to be obsessed with it.

Ahh, thanks, yeah, that does look cool. I would want those presents.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:42 pm

Yeah, its not like they were giving you crappy stuff; they were all sort of 'free' you just had to buy all the dvds and send it the upc and the zenie cash. I wouldnt need the figures or the radar but the scouters would be nice along with the fact the signle dvd diarama all combined into one huge DBZ Kroins tower/Lookout

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:50 pm

SSVegetto - All I want is what the Japanese Dragon Boxes had. Er, but with subtitles/translations. That's all I ever really asked for.

SSVegetto · Post by **SSVegetto** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:58 pm

penguintruth wrote:SSVegetto - All I want is what the Japanese Dragon Boxes had. Er, but with subtitles/translations. That's all I ever really asked for.

Well, I hope you don't. You are just greedy. You know Funi's Dragonbox is way cheaper than the Japanese Dragon box sets. And yet you expect to get everything it had. That's only because it cost like $1400 for the whole series. Furthermore, you don't have one ounce of respect for the fact that this is still a North American release for the English dub.

Then you go ahead and insult the English dubbing cast. When some of them put their whole heart into the characters. You say they don't know the characters. And like you do? Let's see you voice act.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:59 pm

SSVegetto wrote:Well, I hope you don't.

Knock this off, please. Also:

SSj Kaboom wrote:I'd like to (re-)re-state my willingness to temporarily lock the thread if the off-topicness continues...

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:07 pm

SSVegetto wrote:
penguintruth wrote:SSVegetto - All I want is what the Japanese Dragon Boxes had. Er, but with subtitles/translations. That's all I ever really asked for.
Well, I hope you don't. You are just greedy. You know Funi's Dragonbox is way cheaper than the Japanese Dragon box sets. And yet you expect to get everything it had. That's only because it cost like $1400 for the whole series. Furthermore, you don't have one ounce of respect for the fact that this is still a North American release for the English dub.

Then you go ahead and insult the English dubbing cast. When some of them put their whole heart into the characters. You say they don't know the characters. And like you do? Let's see you voice act.

First, why shouldn't the Funimation release get the extras that the original did? The point of releasing the Dragon Boxes in Region 1 is to have a definitive release of the series. If the extras are already in existence, and Funimation has decided to license the Dragon Box, it's greedy to expect those, too? Your reasoning is flawed.

Hell, even if there isn't a single extra, I still look forward to an uncropped edition of DBZ, but if they're going ahead and calling it a Dragon Box release, then yes, I expect at least some of the extras, and that's not greedy.

Also, don't make me laugh, you're just being a contrarian with your, "NO U" arguments.

"Let's see you voice act."

It's not my job to voice act. I'm not a voice actor. I haven't gone into the field. I probably wouldn't be that good. But that's like saying you shouldn't complain about bridges being faulty because you can't build a bridge yourself.

Movie critics should never criticize movies, right? Let's see them make a movie! What about the government? Let's see people who complain about the government govern! What right do they have? Herp derp.

That's the lamest argument I've ever heard. Next time a surgeon botches an operation, they should just tell the patient, "Hey, let's see YOU do better, buddy." Am I right?

I don't care how much heart the VAs put into it, if they're terrible, they're terrible. There's plenty of other folks who obviously disagree with me and think they do a fine job. I doubt they'll be crying their eyes out over anything I have to say about them.

"Some of them put their whole heart into their characters."

According to who? For all we know, they don't. We can't know. All we can do is look at the results. And to me, they're poor.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:13 pm

Please remember that this thread is specifically about FUNimation and their releases of "Dragon Box" sets here in North America.

Unless it's specifically related to the topic at hand, please bring it to another, more relevant thread. Voice actor discussions, previous censorings, and the like really do not have much of a place here.

Furthermore, it seems we have speculated all that we can possibly do with regard to which voice track(s) will be included on these sets. Unless you have something groundbreaking to share or add, I'm going to ask that we leave it alone until we get final confirmation on what's being included.

Thanks.

isucamper · Post by **isucamper** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:57 pm

VegettoEX wrote: Furthermore, it seems we have speculated all that we can possibly do with regard to which voice track(s) will be included on these sets. Unless you have something groundbreaking to share or add, I'm going to ask that we leave it alone until we get final confirmation on what's being included.

We're all just riding out this long painful wait to see what they deliver. Forgive use if we digress a bit here and there. None of us are really in a position to constructively gain any insight to what's going on.

Any luck with lining up an interview with Funi to get some of these questions answered?

hbk19 · Post by **hbk19** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:53 pm

Hello there, I just have a quick question regarding the Funimation release of the Dragon Box (z).

Well the Japanese release had DB, Z, GT and movies in 4 sets.

I know there is no way in heck we're getting that much content crammed up.

So I'm fine with DBZ put into x amount of sets.

What concerns me is the future of DB, GT and Movies.

Seeing that they're going for a release of Z and not the whole thing makes me wonder if they'll ever release the rest in its Dragon Box counter part.

I'm concerned since it would be so detrimental to have the Funi Remasters of DB, GT, and movies (with the same packaging as Z) but have DBZ as a Dragon Box.

I did read somewhere around this thread that they'll be working on the Movies as well for a Dragon Box release but seeing that they JUST finished GT and are now moving to the first ever release of DB makes me think they're just going to go for Z and movies when it comes to the Dragon Box.

What do you guys think? Do you think in due time there will also be a Dragon Box for DB and GT in America?