Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:00 pm

Chuquita wrote:Also! Anyone notice that Gotenks has the ssj3-ish 'you can see his pupils and irises' thing going on in that one shot? Is that just an animation error or?
It was just a short trailer. I doubt it's an animation error. He could be powering up, for all we know.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Karasai » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:18 pm

I honestly want Birusu to overpower them all by a lot. I want him to swat away a Genki Dama like it's nothing, and be able to take Gogeta on without breaking a sweat.

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Post by penguintruth » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:26 pm

A golden Oozaru Goku with SSJ3 hair beats him by using Shunkan Idō to appear behind him and firing a Kamehameha from which a Dragon Fist dragon emerges firing a Genki Dama that obliterates him.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by bleed0range » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:31 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
InfernalVegito wrote:I really hope Gogeta appears again so he can have more screen time.
I want to see SSJ3 Vegeta and SSJ3 Gogeta myself. Vegeta needs some more screen time dammit.
I personally think it does nothing to see Vegeta go SSJ3 or Gogeta go SSJ3. IMO just seeing them do another transformation that's already been around for like a decade is nothing new and is more along the lines of fan-fiction than something I'd like to see in anything official. Come on... there's lots of better ideas then "let's have *insert cahracter* go SSJ3!!" ... I'd like to think Toriyama would be more capable of coming up with fresh ideas then that. I would like new things to be introduced to the series, personally.

Also, I'd like that Kamehameha to NOT be the final-strike (nor a genki dama)... however I wouldn't totally have a problem with the kamehameha being the final strike. Something tells me though that they aren't going to show any clip of the final strike in the trailer. (I hope not anyway)

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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:38 pm

I hope Mr. Popo is the film. I think he'd be a great source of exposition. Same goes for Kaioshin, I'm quite surprised that we haven't seen him yet and we've only had a small shot of Dende.

They're the types of characters that I'd expect to see first in a movie like this.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:40 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:He is unordinarily powerful and it would seem to me not even a Genki Dama would do the trick. I would imagine some kind of unoridinary power like Gogeta's would be required to destroy the God of destruction.
Gogeta could be formed and fight Bils. Force him into a corner where the cat uses some sort of uber god attack or magic skill that is even more powerful than himself. Gogeta goes SS3 to deal with it and subsequently runs out of fusion time afterward. Leaves Bils weakened and sets up the stage perfectly for Goku to be on equal footing in the final battle. Think GT's Gogeta appearance, done right. No fooling around, just literally not being able to stick around long enough to finish the job.

Not saying that's what I want to see, but it's a possibility if they wanted to include him without pulling a movie 12.
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Post by MCDaveG » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:46 pm

sangofe wrote: edit: Even while going through frame by frame, i don't see Gohan having yellow glasses...
You're right about Gotenks, though.
He's there in that multi-shot of everyone's reaction.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:49 pm

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sangofe wrote: edit: Even while going through frame by frame, i don't see Gohan having yellow glasses...
You're right about Gotenks, though.
He's there in that multi-shot of everyone's reaction.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:59 pm

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:
InfernalVegito wrote:I really hope Gogeta appears again so he can have more screen time.
I want to see SSJ3 Vegeta and SSJ3 Gogeta myself. Vegeta needs some more screen time dammit.
I personally think it does nothing to see Vegeta go SSJ3 or Gogeta go SSJ3. IMO just seeing them do another transformation that's already been around for like a decade is nothing new and is more along the lines of fan-fiction than something I'd like to see in anything official. Come on... there's lots of better ideas then "let's have *insert cahracter* go SSJ3!!" ... I'd like to think Toriyama would be more capable of coming up with fresh ideas then that. I would like new things to be introduced to the series, personally.

Also, I'd like that Kamehameha to NOT be the final-strike (nor a genki dama)... however I wouldn't totally have a problem with the kamehameha being the final strike. Something tells me though that they aren't going to show any clip of the final strike in the trailer. (I hope not anyway)
SSJ3 is the farthest you can take SSJ, canonically anyway. Furthermore Vegeta is getting it a couple years after the Buu saga so it hasnt been around for over a decade in the story. You know I'm getting really tired of SSJ3 Vegeta being referred to as fan fiction -_-. Its highly possible he achieved it before the end of the manga or did you forget that Vegeta still had his drive to beat Kakarot at the end of the manga. He isnt beating without SSJ3 so he likely has it or is going to have it. Fresh ideas have been killing this series since Heya Son Goku and his Friends Return. As you can imagine I am a bit skeptical about new ideas. SSJ3 Vegeta making an appearance and SSJ3 Gogeta beating the bad guy just completes the series for me.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:12 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:I wonder how bils will compare to Boohan, will he be stronger or weaker. I Don't think he would be stronger or else Vegetto would be needed.
Umm Gogeta is probably stronger than Buuhan too.
I don't think so. Maybe if he has SSJ3, but with just SSJ I don't think he would win. Fusion isn't as good as Potara.
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Post by Karasai » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:16 pm

Vegeta doesnt need to turn SSJ3, he relies and gets blinded by power, in which, didnt end well when fighting Perfect Cell.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:16 pm

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:I wonder how bils will compare to Boohan, will he be stronger or weaker. I Don't think he would be stronger or else Vegetto would be needed.
Umm Gogeta is probably stronger than Buuhan too.
I don't think so. Maybe if he has SSJ3, but with just SSJ I don't think he would win. Fusion isn't as good as Potara.
Seriously? SSJ Gogeta would destrolish Buuhan IMO. I think there is a ridiculous gap between Buuhan and Vegetto since I think base Vegetto is almost as strong Buuhan.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:17 pm

Karasai wrote:Vegeta doesnt need to turn SSJ3, he relies and gets blinded by power, in which, didnt end well when fighting Perfect Cell.
Umm dude in case you forgot Vegeta became a good guy not overly obsessed with power after the Buu saga.
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Post by Saiga » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:22 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Still, all of them failed, eventually. Same thing happens in the movies too. The problem with the movies is though that the secondary characters don't have enough time to shine & fail at the same time, so they just fail.
But the important thing, is that they got to shine (and Gohan didn't fail against Cell). Plus, there have been moments like Vegeta on Namek killing off the henchmen one-by-one. Yet in the movies, the henchmen usually beat up the heroes and need Goku to be taken down. Although it doesn't look like there will be any henchmen in this movie, and I doubt the others will get any chance to shine, leaving all the glory to Goku.
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Post by InfernalVegito » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:24 pm

In my view Gogeta is as strong as Vegetto. Nothing says explicitly that Potara fusion creates a more powerful being than Metamorian fusion. On top of that we just don't see enough of both to determine it. Gogeta's only shortcoming is the time limit. But I digress.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote: Gogeta could be formed and fight Bils. Force him into a corner where the cat uses some sort of uber god attack or magic skill that is even more powerful than himself. Gogeta goes SS3 to deal with it and subsequently runs out of fusion time afterward. Leaves Bils weakened and sets up the stage perfectly for Goku to be on equal footing in the final battle. Think GT's Gogeta appearance, done right. No fooling around, just literally not being able to stick around long enough to finish the job.
Aynway, I like this idea. At least somehow seeing more actual fighting from him.
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Post by Saiga » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:26 pm

I don't see Gogeta being as strong as Vegetto, because SS Vegetto was stronger than SS3 Gotenks. For SS Gogeta to be stronger than SS3 Gotenks, wouldn't that make SS Goku stronger than a hypothetical SS3 Goten? I have a lot of difficulty seeing that.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:29 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Seriously? SSJ Gogeta would destrolish Buuhan IMO. I think there is a ridiculous gap between Buuhan and Vegetto since I think base Vegetto is almost as strong Buuhan.
Goku had no idea if Fusion was going to even be enough to beat Boohan, he first thought the potara would be the same as fusion. After the potara fusion Vegetto was so surprised he was able to beat Boohan so effortlessly. Gogeta only beat the Super Boo movie counterpart (Janemba). So their really isn't an indicator.

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Post by Storm101 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:31 pm

I would love to see Gogeta again, he only fought for like 10 seconds in that other movie... I doubt he's in though, that seems like something Toei would advertise the hell out of.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:35 pm

sangofe wrote:
Chuquita wrote:After many battles with Quicktime I finally got the 720 to play! *Cheers*.

I never noticed Gohan's yellow glasses earlier; they're an interesting choice for him. X3

Also! Anyone notice that Gotenks has the ssj3-ish 'you can see his pupils and irises' thing going on in that one shot? Is that just an animation error or?
Quicktime? You're not using media player classic to view this? I'd strongly recommend doing that.

edit: Even while going through frame by frame, i don't see Gohan having yellow glasses...
You're right about Gotenks, though.
Wasn't aware media player classic existed. I'll keep it in mind though if I have any further troubles playing video. I'm just relieved that I finally got the clip to play; I thought I'd destroyed my computer's ability to even use quicktime when I updated the version earlier today.

Someone mentioned Gohan having yellow glasses earlier and I hadn't noticed it til I went to go check for myself; it's in that multi-split-screen group shot.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:39 pm

Saiga wrote:I don't see Gogeta being as strong as Vegetto, because SS Vegetto was stronger than SS3 Gotenks. For SS Gogeta to be stronger than SS3 Gotenks, wouldn't that make SS Goku stronger than a hypothetical SS3 Goten? I have a lot of difficulty seeing that.
Umm SSJ Gogeta is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. I dont see how SSJ Goku > SSJ3 Goten is hard to believe honestly. For you to believe this it would only require believing Goku is a little over 8x stronger than Goten which I find highly likely. I believe fusion is A + B x 100. Lets use power ranks for an example of fusion:
Goku: 5,000
Vegeta: 5,000
Gogeta: 1,000,000
SSJ Gogeta: 50,000,000
Goten: 150
Trunks: 150
Gotenks: 30,000
SSJ Gotenks: 1,500,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 12,000,000
Yes I do believe Goku and Vegeta are that much stronger than Goten and Trunks.
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