She didn't want Goten to fight Buu.Chuquita wrote:I'm disappointed they went backwards with Chi-Chi. She was getting better in the Buu arc.
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Toppo using submission techniques is in keeping with his character, he's ment to be a hero after all...
....The Pride Troopers are being played, so far, as strait up, boy scout, super hero types.
I'm betting on Jiren being Dragon Ball's equivalent to Superman.
I'm betting on Jiren being Dragon Ball's equivalent to Superman.
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But it wont make much sense when u have Cabba, Fem Broly being part of the tournament of power.LightBing wrote:Unless they hide the truth from Chi-Chi, the most likely reason for the kids absence is a no children rule. Like they did with the monster rule for the U6 vs U7 tournament, an excuse to remove Boo.
Chi-Chi has already show that she's not that strict. She let Gohan train with Goku and Piccolo while waiting for the Androids and even let Gohan go to Namek.
The only thing we can do is wait one or two episodes to find out. Then we can be outraged or accept the reasonable explanation. This topic has been over-discussed by now.
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Cabba is a trained soldier who's fought on the front lines and he appears to be a young adult or an older teenager, not a child. He's just short like Tarble.perucho1990 wrote: But it wont make much sense when u have Cabba, Fem Broly being part of the tournament of power.
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True, but she did help with teaching him martial arts. She never taught any of that to Gohan.ArchedThunder wrote:She didn't want Goten to fight Buu.Chuquita wrote:I'm disappointed they went backwards with Chi-Chi. She was getting better in the Buu arc.
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This was all because Goku was dead. Goku got revived, so why shouldn't she regress?Chuquita wrote:True, but she did help with teaching him martial arts. She never taught any of that to Gohan.ArchedThunder wrote:She didn't want Goten to fight Buu.Chuquita wrote:I'm disappointed they went backwards with Chi-Chi. She was getting better in the Buu arc.
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Chichi was using Goten as a substitute Goku since he was dead. After he was alive again she was more concerned on him having a bright future. Regardless of people moan about how Chichi treated Gohan what she did worked so why wouldn't she want to do the same for Goten.Chuquita wrote:True, but she did help with teaching him martial arts. She never taught any of that to Gohan.ArchedThunder wrote:She didn't want Goten to fight Buu.Chuquita wrote:I'm disappointed they went backwards with Chi-Chi. She was getting better in the Buu arc.
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So we about to get an extremely boring and walking plot device in some cases character in Dragonball..Lord Frieza wrote: I'm betting on Jiren being Dragon Ball's equivalent to Superman.
Yeah, I hope that isn't the case
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I just hope that they explain the god hierarchy to Android 17.
He legitimately knows nothing about it, and would be so confused if someone said, "Zeno is gonna blow up our universe if we don't beat the other seven universes."
He legitimately knows nothing about it, and would be so confused if someone said, "Zeno is gonna blow up our universe if we don't beat the other seven universes."
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Cabba a trained soldier? Could you please clarify because I have no recollection of this ever being stated.BlueBasilisk wrote:Cabba is a trained soldier who's fought on the front lines and he appears to be a young adult or an older teenager, not a child. He's just short like Tarble.perucho1990 wrote: But it wont make much sense when u have Cabba, Fem Broly being part of the tournament of power.
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Saiyans in U6 are paid to protect planets. Cabba works with that, and even fought together when Frost was pretending to be good.dragonballgeek wrote:Cabba a trained soldier? Could you please clarify because I have no recollection of this ever being stated.BlueBasilisk wrote:Cabba is a trained soldier who's fought on the front lines and he appears to be a young adult or an older teenager, not a child. He's just short like Tarble.perucho1990 wrote: But it wont make much sense when u have Cabba, Fem Broly being part of the tournament of power.
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Ahh. Maybe I need to go back and rewatch some stuff. I can't seem to remember little details like thatSandubadear wrote:Saiyans in U6 are paid to protect planets. Cabba works with that, and even fought together when Frost was pretending to be good.dragonballgeek wrote:Cabba a trained soldier? Could you please clarify because I have no recollection of this ever being stated.BlueBasilisk wrote: Cabba is a trained soldier who's fought on the front lines and he appears to be a young adult or an older teenager, not a child. He's just short like Tarble.
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oh I have a reason because they ruined super saiyan being hard toget and they created one of themost insufferable characters in the entire franchise.Beyond wrote:Chi Chi will probably be the reason Goten doesn't go. It won't make her character any different tbh. Chi Chi's always been dumb as bricks and unable to see the big picture. She makes super Goku look average. Let's be honest, Goten and Trunks aren't being utilized because Toriyama doesn't want to for some reason. Chi Chi doesn't have the ability to stop anyone who is determined enough from doing anything. She's just a hate sink because having someone to hate makes it easier.
plus goten is just smarter goku and trunks is just an uncool version of future trunks.
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Thats a very jaundiced description of the big, blue boy scout.Ki Breaker wrote:So we about to get an extremely boring and walking plot device in some cases character in Dragonball..Lord Frieza wrote: I'm betting on Jiren being Dragon Ball's equivalent to Superman.
Yeah, I hope that isn't the case
While I like Goku far more the Supe's, I've come to appropriate the character a lot more in resent years. There are many very good and interesting stories told using him and theirs a lot more character and nuance to him then most would think. There's a reason that Superman is one of the most iconic super heroes in the world and its not just because he's super powerful or been around for years. "Extremely boring and walking plot device" are words I would like to point out are used to label Goku by his detractors to. In both cases there wrong as Superman and Goku are very interesting as characters, not just because they are strong.
When I said Jiren was going to be the DB Superman, I mean he's the opposite of Goku. He's a person who genuinely cares about the lives of others. Goku wants to be strong and fight strong people, Jiren wants to be strong to protect people and help his universe.
Having our unconventional Goku go up against someone who is a true hero in a battle to save their universes sounds very interesting to me as we have never had a situation like that in the series before. It would shine a light on Goku's flaws but also his strengths as well as those of more conventional heroes.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Herms98/stat ... 02/photo/1Ki Breaker wrote:Did I miss something, how do we know thisChuquita wrote:Gohan also gets to recruit people so it's not all on Gokû's shoulders to do so? Also good.
The summary says "They" start recruiting fighters the moment they come back, Boo probably isn't gonna do any recruiting, so that leaves Goku and Gohan. Then IIRC the preview before this said it was specifically only Goku that went to get Kuririn and 18, so that most likely means they split up, to look for the members.
And unless Gohan went to go chill with Videl, when the tournament starts in 40 hours (Which is ridiculous lol), the chances of him looking for Piccolo alone are pretty high IMO. But we'll see, for all we know Boo and Gohan could be with Goku the whole time, and the preview just forgot to mention they were with him.
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He seems pretty boring to me, I did mention plot device in some cases to avoid the confusion..Lord Frieza wrote:Thats a very jaundiced description of the big, blue boy scout.Ki Breaker wrote:So we about to get an extremely boring and walking plot device in some cases character in Dragonball..Lord Frieza wrote: I'm betting on Jiren being Dragon Ball's equivalent to Superman.
Yeah, I hope that isn't the case
While I like Goku far more the Supe's, I've come to appropriate the character a lot more in resent years. There are many very good and interesting stories told using him and theirs a lot more character and nuance to him then most would think. There's a reason that Superman is one of the most iconic super heroes in the world and its not just because he's super powerful or been around for years. "Extremely boring and walking plot device" are words I would like to point out are used to label Goku by his detractors to. In both cases there wrong as Superman and Goku are very interesting as characters, not just because they are strong.
When I said Jiren was going to be the DB Superman, I mean he's the opposite of Goku. He's a person who genuinely cares about the lives of others. Goku wants to be strong and fight strong people, Jiren wants to be strong to protect people and help his universe.
Having our unconventional Goku go up against someone who is a true hero in a battle to save their universes sounds very interesting to me as we have never had a situation like that in the series before. It would shine a light on Goku's flaws but also his strengths as well as those of more conventional heroes.
Other than that, we will see how it happens
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Yeah that reason make sense, because they didn't appear in fukkatsu no f.lets be real Goten is meh, present trunks is only one I care aboutBeyond wrote:Chi Chi will probably be the reason Goten doesn't go. It won't make her character any different tbh. Chi Chi's always been dumb as bricks and unable to see the big picture. She makes super Goku look average. Let's be honest, Goten and Trunks aren't being utilized because Toriyama doesn't want to for some reason. Chi Chi doesn't have the ability to stop anyone who is determined enough from doing anything. She's just a hate sink because having someone to hate makes it easier.
I'm hoping that is jiren character,he is Happy and he has a strong sense of Justice and a great sense of humor,like seriously we don't need another stoic rival for Goku, because hit already accomplishedLord Frieza wrote:Thats a very jaundiced description of the big, blue boy scout.Ki Breaker wrote:So we about to get an extremely boring and walking plot device in some cases character in Dragonball..Lord Frieza wrote: I'm betting on Jiren being Dragon Ball's equivalent to Superman.
Yeah, I hope that isn't the case
While I like Goku far more the Supe's, I've come to appropriate the character a lot more in resent years. There are many very good and interesting stories told using him and theirs a lot more character and nuance to him then most would think. There's a reason that Superman is one of the most iconic super heroes in the world and its not just because he's super powerful or been around for years. "Extremely boring and walking plot device" are words I would like to point out are used to label Goku by his detractors to. In both cases there wrong as Superman and Goku are very interesting as characters, not just because they are strong.
When I said Jiren was going to be the DB Superman, I mean he's the opposite of Goku. He's a person who genuinely cares about the lives of others. Goku wants to be strong and fight strong people, Jiren wants to be strong to protect people and help his universe.
Having our unconventional Goku go up against someone who is a true hero in a battle to save their universes sounds very interesting to me as we have never had a situation like that in the series before. It would shine a light on Goku's flaws but also his strengths as well as those of more conventional heroes.
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I was always invested on the idea that Jiren would be like Superman's DB, the physique and team are there, the pride troopers that stands for justice, imagine a clash of beliefs between Goku and him.
Jiren: You bastard, you would put the lives of mortals and your loved ones in danger, all for the sake of fighting?
Goku:.....
Jiren: What? cant justify your actions?
Goku: I never really gave it that much thought, I didnt expect things would turn out this way.
Jiren: You shouldnt have aquainted yourself with Zeno sama, someone as dangerous as him should be left alone.
Goku: What are you talking about? Zenchan isnt someone dangerous, I dont know what you see me as, but I'm not like you who stands for something grand like justice and being a hero, I am just me, Son Goku, a mortal who enjoys fighting.
Jiren: So you dont see him as someone dangerous? then what would you do when he destroys you and your loved ones once you lose to me?
Goku: i'll deal with it when that happens, and besides, I ain't gonna lose to you.
Ah my head canon talk!
Jiren: You bastard, you would put the lives of mortals and your loved ones in danger, all for the sake of fighting?
Goku:.....
Jiren: What? cant justify your actions?
Goku: I never really gave it that much thought, I didnt expect things would turn out this way.
Jiren: You shouldnt have aquainted yourself with Zeno sama, someone as dangerous as him should be left alone.
Goku: What are you talking about? Zenchan isnt someone dangerous, I dont know what you see me as, but I'm not like you who stands for something grand like justice and being a hero, I am just me, Son Goku, a mortal who enjoys fighting.
Jiren: So you dont see him as someone dangerous? then what would you do when he destroys you and your loved ones once you lose to me?
Goku: i'll deal with it when that happens, and besides, I ain't gonna lose to you.
Ah my head canon talk!
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Uhhh no they didn't ruin super saiyan.. Both of them are the offspring of Goku and Vegeta. Two of the strongest Saiyans to come out of their race. It's pretty obvious where they get their power from.Totamo wrote:oh I have a reason because they ruined super saiyan being hard toget and they created one of themost insufferable characters in the entire franchise.Beyond wrote:Chi Chi will probably be the reason Goten doesn't go. It won't make her character any different tbh. Chi Chi's always been dumb as bricks and unable to see the big picture. She makes super Goku look average. Let's be honest, Goten and Trunks aren't being utilized because Toriyama doesn't want to for some reason. Chi Chi doesn't have the ability to stop anyone who is determined enough from doing anything. She's just a hate sink because having someone to hate makes it easier.
plus goten is just smarter goku and trunks is just an uncool version of future trunks.
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Man I do not remember this promo for the Trunks arc!
Man I am so mad they spoiled Black reveal in the key visual, that whole first episode made it ambiguous right until the last second and man that reveal would have floored me and everyone so bad, I really am not a fan of this spoiler culture that we are currently living in.
Man I am so mad they spoiled Black reveal in the key visual, that whole first episode made it ambiguous right until the last second and man that reveal would have floored me and everyone so bad, I really am not a fan of this spoiler culture that we are currently living in.











