The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Saiga]

Kurilin & Yamcha vs Goku @90,000

Kurilin can take Goku on his own, Yamcha isn't strong enough to help.

Vegeta @24,000 and Goku post-Zenkai v Monster Zarbon

The two Saiyans take this, I would think Goku is higher than 10,000 so his Kaio-ken x3 would surpass Monster Zarbon. A Kaio-ken x4 powered Kamehameha backed by Vegeta's Galick Gun would dust Zarbon.

[Insertclevername]

I'd say that Vegeta and Gokuu can make it through this one, however, Gokuu can't hold Kaio-Ken x3 for that long, so the two would have to fight more strategically and maybe exploit one of Zarbon's blind spots and use a clean Kamehameha and/or Galick Gun to finish him off. Also, Zarbon seems to lose his fines when in his monster form and begins to use dirty, brute force like attacks. This may be an advantage to the two Saiyans...

Super Android 13 vs. #16 (with bomb)

[Blackstripe]

Beginning of Z Tien + Gokuu fused via Potara Earrings vs Raditz, Nappa and Vegita. Do you think they could overcome the Saiyans with the power of their fusion?

[Rocketman]

Beginning of Z Tenshinhan + Gokuu fused via Potara Earrings vs Raditz, Nappa and Vegita. Do you think they could overcome the Saiyans with the power of their fusion?

If they get the same boost Vegetto did, they'd be at 104,000.

[Saiga]

So Oozaru Vegeta wins.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Vegeta and Goku ( post-Zenkai ), vs. Monster Zarbon

I'd say that Gokuu's 12k after his Zenkai from fighting Vegeta on Earth, meaning that his Kaiouken x3 would be enough to injure Zarbon. Vegeta would stall Zarbon while Gokuu powered up for a Kaiouken x3 again and then he'd blow Zarbon away with a Kamehameha. If he's backed up by Vegeta's Galick Gun, it'd be a definite finish.

Super Android 13 vs. #16 (with bomb)

I'd say that these two are dead even, but because #16's more desperate on account of his love for Earth, he'd self-destruct, killing #13 along with him.

Beginning of Z Tenshinhan + Gokuu fused via Potara Earrings vs Raditz, Nappa and Vegita.

I'm pretty sure Tenkuu (?) could pull off a win, unless Vegeta was to transform into an Oozaru and stomp him to death. Heck, if we're considering how unmatched Gokuu and Tenshinhan are for each other, in contrast to Gokuu and Vegeta, they might even end up below Oozaru Nappa.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

because #16's more desperate on account of his love for Earth, he'd self-destruct, killing #13 along with him.

Except if they were fighting in a forest.

[Piccolo Daimao]

because #16's more desperate on account of his love for Earth, he'd self-destruct, killing #13 along with him.

Except if they were fighting in a forest.

Well, I guess #16 would persuade him to fight somewhere else, like Gokuu did.

[PiccoloFan7289]

The Entire Ginyu Force (No body switching for Ginyu and Gurd's psychic powers are all allowed), Zarbon, Dodoria, and Cui vs First Form Freeza. I think Freeza would win this with medium difficulty.

[Insertclevername]

First form Freeza could probably solo them all.

[Piccolo Daimao]

The Entire Ginyu Force (No body switching for Ginyu and Gurd's psychic powers are all allowed), Zarbon, Dodoria, and Cui vs First Form Freeza. I think Freeza would win this with medium difficulty.

First-form Freeza would massacre all of them. Jesus, he's more than quadruple Ginyuu's strength.

[Mystic Gohan]

And yet he was drawn as a SSJ.

Goku has been drawn SS2 without sparks, so has kid Gohan.

For a few panels, not for entire chapters. Gohan's eyes look completely different when he is a SSJ than when he is a SSJ2.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I made up my mind on the SS? Gohan topic. It's a plot-hole for me. Gohan is:

a) A Super Saiyan with the power of a Super Saiyan 2, or

b) A Super Saiyan 2 with the appearance of a Super Saiyan.

I don't know what to choose, it's a plot-hole either way.

[Kaboom]

Now that I'm posting again, let me personally ask everyone to lay off the "GOHAN, SSJ2 OR NOT?!" debate. It's been done to death and is pretty much off-topic for this thread anyway.



Goku & Vegeta Vs Zarbon

If Goku's allowed to use the Kaio-Ken, then he and Vegeta working together can probably take Zarbon down. If not, then Goku ends up as collateral damage in Zarbon's victorious battle against Vegeta.

Cell arc Kuririn & Yamcha Vs Goku
I figure Kuririn already has a moderate power advantage over Goku by now, and has inched up to a bit over 100,000. Goku, being Goku, has a shot at making up for that small power difference with superior skill, but it's a very SMALL shot, as Kuririn's no slouch in that regard either. I think Kuririn would win something like 4 out of 5 times.

Oh wait, Yamcha's involved too?

Super Android 13 Vs Android 16

They'd be very evenly matched. If you want to take Daizenshuu #7's (I think it was 7) mention of 16 being the strongest non-Cell Android to include the less-canon movie ones as well, then 16 would have at least a slight advantage in power. If 13 is reduced to a hulking Broly-esque moron in his "Super" configuration, then 16 would have an edge in smarts and technique too. If, for some reason, 16 is forced to resort to self-destruction, then it takes both of them out and everyone loses.

Start-of-Z Goku and Ten, fused via Potara Vs The Saiyans

Like Rocketman said, Vegetto's "finite measurements" boost would put "Tenku" at a hair over 100,000. The Saiyans' only hope is for Vegeta to use Ozaru while still fresh and at full power.

1st-form Freeza Vs All his henchlings

Freeza slowly and brutally massacres everyone and laughs up a storm while he does it. He starts with Captain Ginyu in order to demoralize everyone else.

[Mjb1985]

The humans seem to be notable sources of power for absorption for Dr. Gero in the Androids Saga. Considering that he believes that absorbing the Z Senshi would allow him to surpass Vegeta, as well as Yamucha being confused for Goku, I would think these guys are pretty damn strong.

[Rocketman]

Yamcha being confused for Goku just means he's over 8000.

[Mjb1985]

Goku already displayed a power of 32,000 5 years ago. Gero states he accounted for dramatic increases.

[mattymoron]

I think it likely the he would account for a possible 20x increase per year from when the Saiyans attacked, with a possible 4x increase of that taken into consideration.

[Saiga]

Gero observing the Saiyan battle means that he'd be aware that they can suppress their energy.

So we can't say jack about what Yamcha's battle power has to be from that.

[In Brightest Day]

Kuririn just as he's arrived on Namek vs. Tenshinhan in the Saiyan arc:

- Did Krillin manage to surpass Tien's Saiyan arc battle power from training with Gohan in the space ship? And if so, is it a big enough gap?


Kuririn at end of the Freeza arc vs. Recoom, Butta & Jheese:

- Collectively, can these three defeat him at his peak of power on Namek?