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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:38 pm

So, assuming that the characters are as much as this picture shows us, he is my prediction of the roster (ignoring the 3 green boxes of course, since we have no idea what they are):
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Thanos » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:50 pm

70 unique characters and 5 bosses? Fuck, I can live with that.


I wonder if the three green boxes are what-if characters or something.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:53 pm

Maybe they are something like supporting characters? Like Dende (heals the team) or Mr. Satan (helps charge genki?).
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:12 pm

I highly doubt we're getting GT characters. It's like the games have this vendetta against GT.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:21 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I highly doubt we're getting GT characters. It's like the games have this vendetta against GT.
When they asked about if GT will be included, they answered with "we want to focus on the popular characters" and "we can't confirm that GT will be in". So, I think we will get a few from GT.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:34 pm

Things have changed over time. I remember the early footage of Sparking 2 had Adult DBZ Goku able to transform into SSj4 Goku into battle then SSj4 Goku became his own character.
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Post by Sin » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:35 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Things have changed over time. I remember the early footage of Sparking 2 had Adult DBZ Goku able to transform into SSj4 Goku into battle then SSj4 Goku became his own character.
I don't know why they'd make that kind of change, I'd much prefer to just have one version of the character with all the forms accessible.

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Hellspawn28 wrote:Things have changed over time. I remember the early footage of Sparking 2 had Adult DBZ Goku able to transform into SSj4 Goku into battle then SSj4 Goku became his own character.
Shin Budokai 2 & Budokai 3 have DBZ Goku transforming into Super Saiyan 4, so I can see them doing the same in Battle of Z.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:45 pm

I guess they want things to be more accurate to the show in order to make fans happy. I don't mind adult Goku becoming SSj4 in Budokai 3 since Budokai 3 had a better GT storyline then the actual GT :lol: .
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:25 pm

JeffJarrett wrote:The Crusher Ball is green in this game.
Are you serious! Time for my angry Asian face :x
Seriously, this is probably a BETA version or something. In Raging Blast 1 FIRST ever demo (Released to the public of Japan Expo) the characters and transformations were separate.
Did RB take 2 years to make? I also find it weird that normally we'll see in game transformation.
Ah Hell naw. You did not just say Budokai 3 was WORSE than Budokai 1.
Nope. I just said Budokai 1 was better IMO. Better story mode. More fun re-play value Nice costumes. Nice Mr. Satan mode. I like the graphics of the melee clash(When you rotate the analog stick) with the dark atmosphere and the colors. Yes the gameplay was better. But after completing everyone's DU for 77 times the game get annoying. Budokai 1 was more fun for me to play. I also like the stages MUCH better(Old school Tenkaichi Budokai FTW)
No... no it wasn't. It was much faster paced and you had more to do with it. Yeah they removed a few things, but they more than made up for that, then added speed. Sparking Meteor is probably the most "DBZ-ish" game out there in terms of gameplay.


You want fast to equal more dbzish? Get Ultimate Tenkaichi. If people like it or not. Ultimate Tenkaichi was a great for being dbzish. A bad game but a good simulations. Great for fanfics and watching the CPU Fight. Yes Tenkaichi 3 was faster but overall it lacked some DBZ elements as I listed above. Plus overall everything was better in BT2.
It's just to show some of the characters that will be featured in the game. Not the in-game character selection.


Make sense. Or does it O.o.
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Aren't most games presented like that?

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:00 pm

Speed is very integral part of DBZ. BT3s follow up system makes for a more accurate representation of DBZ fighting. Almost everything you stated has nothing to do with being like DBZ. These are your personal preferences.
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Post by Thanos » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:12 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Maybe they are something like supporting characters? Like Dende (heals the team) or Mr. Satan (helps charge genki?).
I'd really like that. The green could definitely mean some kind of support/healing aspect.

I think that now that there's a focus on 4v4, the Genki Dama should take longer. That way, it could add an interesting element where the other three players have to fend off the other team while their Goku charges up. 8)
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:23 pm

Speed is very integral part of DBZ. BT3s follow up system makes for a more accurate representation of DBZ fighting. Almost everything you stated has nothing to do with being like DBZ. These are your personal preferences.
I said it lacked SOME and OVERALL BT2 was better. As I said. If you want speed go buy Ultimate Tenkaichi.

Lock on system
Attacks being able to blow up planets even if they miss
Super Wave being able to destroy a planet even though it's not an ultimate.
Better Charge up ki blast system
(Being ample to amp your attack BEFORE a clash. BT3 have you do it during a clash)
Damage body being damaged regardless if they lost a clash or not. Even not getting hit with the Ultimate can give you damage

^ All of this is more DBzish. All of this was not presented the same way in Bt3. Locking on way easier in Bt3. Attacks can miss but it will not blow up the planet. Super Wave doing great damage. Charging up amp attacks BEFORE clash(don't say the boast thing in BT3) was removed. The only way you gained battle damage in BT3 is from Ultimate and losing clashes. Only thing BT3 has is speed. THat's sooo much more feats than all the things I listed.
That way, it could add an interesting element where the other three players have to fend off the other team while their Goku charges up.
My idea was the team gives Goku the energy. Yes they might be defenseless but if we mix our ideas we can have 1 person fighting the other team while the other 2 give Goku the energy(Like Piccolo in Freeza Arc). But that one person will indeed get his ass kick.

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Post by Big Momma » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:32 pm

New Freeza battle gameplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l504eaakg5Q
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:45 pm

The planet busting is better, sure, but other than that, these small things don't make up for the exponentially superior combat system. BT2 is sloooooooooooooow and lacks follow ups. Because of this, it lacks a DBZ feel. I don't care if you think BT2 is superior, that's fine, but it's not more "DBZ-ish".
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Post by SSJ6Goku » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:46 pm

thanks for the vid!!!

i gotta say i'm not impressed with what i just saw. the story mode battle here looks sorta boring. hoping online is better but hype = lowered. :eh:

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:48 pm

It looks slow and very shallow. This is a co-op sorta match though. A free for all should be more entertaining.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:49 pm

Freeza' final form look smoother than his FUCKING HEAD! Got damn that's a good model. To bad they didn't show Goku becoming SSJ. Also have to say they improved 100% Freeza by A LOT. He used to be all fugly. Now he's sooomther than his fucking TAIL! The gameplay looks fun and less stiff. Great making up for the no in game transformation(SO far. We don't know if true yet) The turtle desturction wave looks AWESOME and YES! You can fly backwards! But the game does look like it's all over the place.
The planet busting is better, sure, but other than that, these small things don't make up for the exponentially superior combat system. BT2 is sloooooooooooooow and lacks follow ups. Because of this, it lacks a DBZ feel. I don't care if you think BT2 is superior, that's fine, but it's not more "DBZ-ish".
It kinda is. With exception of speed. You can do follow ups on BT2. Not that hard. So it doesn't lack follow ups. Also those things aren't small.

Amp your ki > Boast system in BT3. Meaning much more damage than boast.
Charging up the Genki Dama is waaay more DBZ-ish than BT3 version
Lock on is needed to fight and BT2 makes it more unique than BT3.
The damage is MUCH MORE DBZ like than BT3. YOu can't argue that.

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Post by Thanos » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:26 pm

I noticed in the screenshot of SSJG Goku vs. Birus, Goku looks noticeably skinnier. I'm happy about this.
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Post by theoriginalbilis » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:29 pm

This 4-minute gameplay video features all-new music instead of the music from the TV series. Wonder what that means...
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