Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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TheMikado
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by TheMikado » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:41 am
Totamo wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
It's not an odd reason they all agreed before leaving that they would keep the destruction thing on the hush as not to induce panic.
Not telling the fighters this big of an information is a odd thing, no matter how much of a panic it could cause..
They were fine when they basically had
a person come from future and tell them they are all gonna die, they tried extra hard to win..
Which they allowed to happen when they could have stopped it.
Our Characters are stupid!
I'm pretty sure Goku had a legitimate moral argument against that, regardless of whether you agreed or not.
In this case I'm not really understanding the moral argument. Especially when there's a huge chance all the other universes are gonna be gunning for them and they will likely reiterate the stakes at the opening of the tournament. It's sounds like they are just setting Goku up for another "oops" moment.
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by ChaosLordBrandon » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:42 am
The character usage in this arc has been wonderful. Since the black arc ended really.
Funny that this was called the Goku and Vegeta show a arc and Vegeta has done nothing besides worry about Bulma, hold Bra, train with Whis and play baseball in the past like 15 episodes.
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by kinisking » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:43 am
TheMikado wrote:Totamo wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:
Not telling the fighters this big of an information is a odd thing, no matter how much of a panic it could cause..
They were fine when they basically had a person come from future and tell them they are all gonna die, they tried extra hard to win..
Which they allowed to happen when they could have stopped it.
Our Characters are stupid!
I'm pretty sure Goku had a legitimate moral argument against that, regardless of whether you agreed or not.
In this case I'm not really understanding the moral argument. Especially when there's a huge chance all the other universes are gonna be gunning for them and they will likely reiterate the stakes at the opening of the tournament. It's sounds like they are just setting Goku up for another "oops" moment.
Gokus moral argument was flawed. There were other ways to stop Gero without killing him.
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by Ki Breaker » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:02 am
They mentioned senzu are not allowed, but buu is, buu can heal everything , he is training and turns super buu hopefully..
I don't see how buu can be anything less than the third most important character in the team..
The second can be either gohan Vegeta or 17, dosent matter who
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by TheMikado » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:02 am
kinisking wrote:TheMikado wrote:Totamo wrote:
Which they allowed to happen when they could have stopped it.
Our Characters are stupid!
I'm pretty sure Goku had a legitimate moral argument against that, regardless of whether you agreed or not.
In this case I'm not really understanding the moral argument. Especially when there's a huge chance all the other universes are gonna be gunning for them and they will likely reiterate the stakes at the opening of the tournament. It's sounds like they are just setting Goku up for another "oops" moment.
Gokus moral argument was flawed. There were other ways to stop Gero without killing him.
Don't want to have this debate again, but I'm fairly certain in the manga the suggestion was made to kill Dr. Gero and Goku was responding to that from a perspective of morality. He did admit he wanted to fight the androids. I'm merely stating he has a sense of morality and isn't stupid. I'm failing to see how the choice to not tell anyone the outcome of losing makes sense in the context of the narrative? He needs everyone to put everything into it as if their life depended on it, but he doesn't tell them that their lives and everyone they know actually does depend on it?
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by Roronoa-pt » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:13 am
I bet the fit Buu will be some kinda of gag, he won't mantain that form in the tournament.
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by Lapislettuce » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:31 am
Ki Breaker wrote:They mentioned senzu are not allowed, but buu is, buu can heal everything , he is training and turns super buu hopefully..
I don't see how buu can be anything less than the third most important character in the team..
The second can be either gohan Vegeta or 17, dosent matter who
I actually think Buu will be the first to get eliminated for shock value ! if a weak character gets eliminated first then it's too predictible and Buu already had a great moment for a side character. that's just my theory though.
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by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:03 am
Ki Breaker wrote:They mentioned senzu are not allowed, but buu is, buu can heal everything , he is training and turns super buu hopefully..
I don't see how buu can be anything less than the third most important character in the team..
The second can be either gohan Vegeta or 17, dosent matter who
How are you going to measure importance? Most wins? Most fights? Whoever lasts the longest? Whoever beats the strongest opponents? Who has the most screen time?
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by Zeru14 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:05 am
Totamo wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
It's not an odd reason they all agreed before leaving that they would keep the destruction thing on the hush as not to induce panic.
Not telling the fighters this big of an information is a odd thing, no matter how much of a panic it could cause..
They were fine when they basically had
a person come from future and tell them they are all gonna die, they tried extra hard to win..
Which they allowed to happen when they could have stopped it.
Our Characters are stupid!
They have to be for the sake of plot, locating a stopping Gero from completing his creations was obviously the smart thing to do. Forget the morality thing, that was a weak excuse from the start, because Gero was not an innocent like Miles Dyson from Terminator, Miles was a good man who meant for Skynet to do good, Skynet itself is the one who choose to do the opposite, so what happened was out of Miles control. Gero was revenge obsessed, megalomaniac who was bitter that the terrorist group who was a willing member of was defeated by a single monkey boy, he was bad and purposely built murder bots to do more bad.
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by Ki Breaker » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:16 am
namekiansaiyan wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:They mentioned senzu are not allowed, but buu is, buu can heal everything , he is training and turns super buu hopefully..
I don't see how buu can be anything less than the third most important character in the team..
The second can be either gohan Vegeta or 17, dosent matter who
How are you going to measure importance? Most wins? Most fights? Whoever lasts the longest? Whoever beats the strongest opponents? Who has the most screen time?
Whoever is the most resourceful overall
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by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:23 am
Ki Breaker wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:They mentioned senzu are not allowed, but buu is, buu can heal everything , he is training and turns super buu hopefully..
I don't see how buu can be anything less than the third most important character in the team..
The second can be either gohan Vegeta or 17, dosent matter who
How are you going to measure importance? Most wins? Most fights? Whoever lasts the longest? Whoever beats the strongest opponents? Who has the most screen time?
Whoever is the most resourceful overall
I don't know how you measure that. The actions that have the most improtance towards the final outcome is what everyone should consider.
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by Totamo » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:04 pm
So I guess everyone is training offscreen?
I'm ok with that!
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by pacz360 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:08 pm
Totamo wrote:So I guess everyone is training offscreen?
I'm ok with that!
That how it should be really
Krillin been training ever since his Adventure with goku to the island developing a new technique.
Buu training nonstop for the first time
They two days might as well use it to get stronger.
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by Ki Breaker » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:15 pm
pacz360 wrote:Totamo wrote:So I guess everyone is training offscreen?
I'm ok with that!
That how it should be really
Krillin been training ever since his Adventure with goku to the island developing a new technique.
Buu training nonstop for the first time
They two days might as well use it to get stronger.
Buu turning super buu ( hopefully ) is a real interesting thing, I wonder if tien developed a new kikoho ( feet kikoho?! ) Sure hope piccolo gets a new technique or powerup off-screen as well, he has been out for a long long time
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by Nekis13 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:18 pm
I wonder if Buu used the RoSaT. I mean, Goku finds him in the Temple right?
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by kinisking » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:32 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:pacz360 wrote:Totamo wrote:So I guess everyone is training offscreen?
I'm ok with that!
That how it should be really
Krillin been training ever since his Adventure with goku to the island developing a new technique.
Buu training nonstop for the first time
They two days might as well use it to get stronger.
Buu turning super buu ( hopefully ) is a real interesting thing, I wonder if tien developed a new kikoho ( feet kikoho?! ) Sure hope piccolo gets a new technique or powerup off-screen as well, he has been out for a long long time
I hope everyone gets a new technique in DB super. It's always exciting when that happens.
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by Ki Breaker » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:38 pm
Nekis13 wrote:I wonder if Buu used the RoSaT. I mean, Goku finds him in the Temple right?
That makes sense..
Damn, can't wait to see the episode now
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by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:42 pm
kinisking wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:pacz360 wrote:
That how it should be really
Krillin been training ever since his Adventure with goku to the island developing a new technique.
Buu training nonstop for the first time
They two days might as well use it to get stronger.
Buu turning super buu ( hopefully ) is a real interesting thing, I wonder if tien developed a new kikoho ( feet kikoho?! ) Sure hope piccolo gets a new technique or powerup off-screen as well, he has been out for a long long time
I hope everyone gets a new technique in DB super. It's always exciting when that happens.
Piccolo, Vegeta, Tien and Krillin will be the most likely for new techniques.
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by Kishido » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:47 pm
Why is Buu training after all? Maybe Satan told him about the destruction of the universe...
If yes I find it even more shit that no one else knows. I think they would train 10x more with knowing it
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by Nekis13 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:48 pm
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Piccolo, Vegeta, Tien and Krillin will be the most likely for new techniques.
I bet Piccolo will do more with the clones thing he did during his fight with Frost.