"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Matches Malone » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:19 am

DevilKing99 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:15 amIf Broly is allowed to ass pull himself from a power level of like 100,000 to SSB Gogeta level in barely an hour with zero prior fighting experience, why can't Piccolo get a boost in arc about a villain who killed the entire namekian race?
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Post by Cipher » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:20 am

DevilKing99 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:15 amNot to Mention Piccolo didn't get interact with Moro once despite Moro Killing his People.
Piccolo fights Moro along with everyone else near the climax. He attempts to blow away everyone under Moro's barrier to stop him.

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Post by SupremeKai25 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:23 am

Matches Malone wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:09 am When we got the poster I thought he'd be some nobody training under Mr.Satan who just looked like Goku.

I can't help but think Zamasu would be severely offended seeing a picture of himself with a Santa hat. :lol:
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DevilKing99 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:15 am Moro was in U7 for 2+ Months and didn't even gain any interaction with Beerus, Freeza, Broly, Piccolo and Shin. Moro and Beerus were right next to each other didn't say anything to each other.

Not to Mention Piccolo didn't get interact with Moro once despite Moro Killing his People.

Hell if Broly is allowed to ass pull himself from a power level of like 100,000 to SSB Gogeta level in barely an hour with zero prior fighting experience, why can't Piccolo get a boost in arc about a villain who killed the entire namekian race?
Right, but I'm not talking about personality or motivations, I'm just focusing on the design, since it's the only thing we can see of this new character.

He seems to be wearing some kind of uniform, which gives me the idea that he might be an agent working for someone. So, an underling, not the boss. He also seemed to be talking to someone, so again, another hint that this person in the final panel might be someone's agent.

Meanwhile, Moro objectively looked like the main villain. Like, he had a pretty distinct design when he first appeared as an old wizard.
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Post by Matches Malone » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:25 am

SupremeKai25 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:23 amI'm celebrating Zamasu Day, don't worry.
In that case, Mary Zamasu. :clap:

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Post by ChronoTwigger » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:34 am

AAARGH, it's quite impossible to find any indepth w/ my google, GRANOLA is the italian word for muesli. As long as it doesn't end as a breakfast challenge I'm blind about.
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:42 am

Keeping my expectations low. I was so ready to be done with Moro and move onto something completely new after 2 years and nope it's more former prisoner shenanigans. Maybe it'll surprise me and be a fun antagonist for a change, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Are there restrictions that Toyotaro is under where the story isn't allowed to explore the universe(s) beyond places we already know? Or that he isn't allowed to do a time skip to EoZ?
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Post by Matches Malone » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:58 am

Chuquita wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:42 am Are there restrictions that Toyotaro is under where the story isn't allowed to explore the universe(s) beyond places we already know?

Or that he isn't allowed to do a time skip to EoZ?
I don't think so.

This is very likely, as the suits want the characters and setting to be as nostalgic as possible.

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Post by Xeogran » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:05 pm

Chuquita wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:42 am Are there restrictions that Toyotaro is under where the story isn't allowed to explore the universe(s) beyond places we already know? Or that he isn't allowed to do a time skip to EoZ?
Super itself exists to show what happened in the gap between Buu and EoZ. Which is why I feel that it will end when it finally reaches that point sometime in the next 3000 years.

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Post by Grimlock » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:32 pm

P-please... Just tell me we won't be stuck for another two years with yet another saga taking place in the ten-year timeskip... Please... :|

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Post by DestructoDisc » Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:35 pm

They couldn't come up with a better name for the new character? Might as well name his henchman (if he has one) lasagna.

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Post by DiscountDabi » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:12 pm

I’m just glad we are back to the original Dragon Ball Formula where the consequences of past arcs lead into the next arc, something almost entirely nonexistent in Super. 7-3 still being around is interesting because he has a very overpowered ability and for the arc total he was underwhelming.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:18 pm

Chuquita wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:42 am Are there restrictions that Toyotaro is under where the story isn't allowed to explore the universe(s) beyond places we already know? Or that he isn't allowed to do a time skip to EoZ?
There seems to be some insider rules about DBS: Never reach EOZ and don't age Goten/Trunks.
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Post by Ziegander » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:39 pm

DiscountDabi wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:12 pm I’m just glad we are back to the original Dragon Ball Formula where the consequences of past arcs lead into the next arc, something almost entirely nonexistent in Super. 7-3 still being around is interesting because he has a very overpowered ability and for the arc total he was underwhelming.
7-3, as presented, is such a cardboard character. He never seemed "Evil" with a big E. he was just there. And yet, he was also presented, honestly, as the most powerful antagonist and as the reason the main antagonist was at all able to do half of what he did in the arc. Pretty weird from a storytelling perspective and I have no clue what the point of keeping him around, especially as a "secret," is going to be.
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Post by Mister_Popo » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:41 pm

Funny how some people are already judging this arc, this while we basically know 'jack shit' about the story.

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Post by DevilKing99 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:51 pm

Mister_Popo wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:41 pm Funny how some people are already judging this arc, this while we basically know 'jack shit' about the story.
My only issue with this arc, and is something that can't be fixed even if this becomes my favorite arc, is the fact that this is another U7 villain that was never mentioned before ever.

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Post by ZodiacBeast » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:53 pm

Granoly takes Seventhree's remains.
Somehow he's kept Moro's enhanced versions of his abilities and all the abilities they copied.
The people Granoly works for combines 7-3 with their new project.
They then add DNA from the multiverse's strongest fighters.

And thus, the "Baby Cell 7-3 Saga" begins!

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Post by Ziegander » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:57 pm

Mister_Popo wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:41 pm Funny how some people are already judging this arc, this while we basically know 'jack shit' about the story.
I don't see anyone judging the arc? I don't even know how it would be possible to judge the arc considering it doesn't even exist yet.
ZodiacBeast wrote:Granoly takes Seventhree's remains.
Somehow he's kept Moro's enhanced versions of his abilities and all the abilities they copied.
The people Granoly works for combines 7-3 with their new project.
They then add DNA from the multiverse's strongest fighters.

And thus, the "Baby Cell 7-3 Saga" begins!
:sick:

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Post by Matches Malone » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:05 pm

Mister_Popo wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:41 pm Funny how some people are already judging this arc, this while we basically know 'jack shit' about the story.
Fans aren't being judgemental as much as being worried due to how the Moro arc turned out overall.

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Post by ZodiacBeast » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:06 pm

Ziegander wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:57 pm
Mister_Popo wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:41 pm Funny how some people are already judging this arc, this while we basically know 'jack shit' about the story.
I don't see anyone judging the arc? I don't even know how it would be possible to judge the arc considering it doesn't even exist yet.
ZodiacBeast wrote:Granoly takes Seventhree's remains.
Somehow he's kept Moro's enhanced versions of his abilities and all the abilities they copied.
The people Granoly works for combines 7-3 with their new project.
They then add DNA from the multiverse's strongest fighters.

And thus, the "Baby Cell 7-3 Saga" begins!
:sick:

Sweet Southern Kai, I hope not.
This was mostly a joke, but so was Golden Frieza, and about as original as well 😁

Although if somebody does gain 7-3's abilities...how would that work? Moro had to become a planet.

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Post by Yuji » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:07 pm

On the little we have to go on, it would not surprise me if this is yet another Toyotarou original arc (or with heavy input by Toyotarou, if you wish to be more rigorous in examination). The lack of a large timeskip between arcs, the immediate set-up following the climax of the arc using a random mook of the previous antagonist as the catalyst to introduce new characters and continue the plot... it all feels distinctly un-Toriyama-like.

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