He's mostly that high because of the formula I use. I don't actually care where he is placed, as long as he's around at least 50% stronger than Buuhan, to justify that beatdown. But I don't see the need for a huge multi-fold gap between them like some do. His stomping of Buu wasn't particularly special.Saiga wrote:I have him at less than half of Random's, with him at 300 billion.
No, wait, 250 billion. Less than a third.
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Yeah, I don't use a formula at all. Although when I did he only ended up being 320 billion, because I didn't think that Vegeta get the power up from Bobbidi.RandomGuy96 wrote:He's mostly that high because of the formula I use. I don't actually care where he is placed, as long as he's around at least 50% stronger than Buuhan, to justify that beatdown. But I don't see the need for a huge multi-fold gap between them like some do. His stomping of Buu wasn't particularly special.Saiga wrote:I have him at less than half of Random's, with him at 300 billion.
No, wait, 250 billion. Less than a third.
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He is around 350.000.000.000.000 IMO, though I may change it at some point later.Kakashi wrote:SSjin Vegetto's power level?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I have him at:
Base (Buu): 1,000,000,000,000
SSJ (Buu): 50,000,000,000,000
Base (DBM): 1,200,000,000,000
SSJ: 60,000,000,000,000
SSJ2: 120,000,000,000,000
SSJ3: 480,000,000,000,000
Yes I'm doing DBM power levels.
Base (Buu): 1,000,000,000,000
SSJ (Buu): 50,000,000,000,000
Base (DBM): 1,200,000,000,000
SSJ: 60,000,000,000,000
SSJ2: 120,000,000,000,000
SSJ3: 480,000,000,000,000
Yes I'm doing DBM power levels.
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That's high?RandomGuy96 wrote:He's mostly that high because of the formula I use. I don't actually care where he is placed, as long as he's around at least 50% stronger than Buuhan, to justify that beatdown. But I don't see the need for a huge multi-fold gap between them like some do. His stomping of Buu wasn't particularly special.Saiga wrote:I have him at less than half of Random's, with him at 300 billion.
No, wait, 250 billion. Less than a third.
Anyway I have SSjin Vegetto at 500,000,000,000,000. Maybe even over 1,000,000,000,000,000!!!!!!
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By ths standards of my old list, yes. Higher than is necessary. I could have him at just a third of that and it would still work, as I only have Buuhan at 170 billion or so.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Z senshi power levels after Kaio training
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What about them?Kakashi wrote:Z senshi power levels after Kaio training
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Opinions?Kamiccolo9 wrote:What about them?Kakashi wrote:Z senshi power levels after Kaio training
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Well, I think they are very well mannered and polite. Gohan's tend to get a bit out of hand when he gets angry, but I imagine it's just a phase. Piccolo's don't really get along with the others, but on the inside they're just a big softie. Krillin and Yamcha's power levels feel inadequate, but one day I'm sure they'll get over that. Chaotzu, on the other hand, needs to just let his go because they are useless, and he has better opportunities in professional cooking. Tien's just need to let Chiaotzu's go for his own health. Overall, though, as far a power levels go, this group seems like a pretty well rounded club, and I'm sure that one day they'll go far.Kakashi wrote:Opinions?Kamiccolo9 wrote:What about them?Kakashi wrote:Z senshi power levels after Kaio training
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Piccolo: 360,000Kakashi wrote:Opinions?Kamiccolo9 wrote:What about them?Kakashi wrote:Z senshi power levels after Kaio training
Tenshinhan: 200,000
Yamcha: 120,000
Chaoz: 60,000
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Yamcha admits that he's inept at fighting villains in the Android Arc and he was more useful flying Goku off, Tenshinan is actually pretty much Chiaotzu-less in the Cell arc so not too many attachment issues.Kamiccolo9 wrote: Krillin and Yamcha's power levels feel inadequate, but one day I'm sure they'll get over that. Chaotzu, on the other hand, needs to just let his go because they are useless, and he has better opportunities in professional cooking. Tenshinhan's just need to let Chiaotzu's go for his own health. Overall, though, as far a power levels go, this group seems like a pretty well rounded club, and I'm sure that one day they'll go far.
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Piccolo: 360,000Zombie wrote:Opinions?
Tenshinhan: 200,000
Yamcha: 120,000
Chaoz: 60,000[/quote]
Piccolo is too high
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Elaborate.Kakashi wrote:Piccolo: 360,000Zombie wrote:Opinions?
Tenshinhan: 200,000
Yamcha: 120,000
Chaoz: 60,000
Piccolo is too high
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How did Piccolo miraculously got so strong after 1 week of training (he was 3.500 before training), especially when it's not important to the plot?Zombie wrote:Elaborate.Kakashi wrote:Piccolo: 360,000Zombie wrote:Opinions?
Tenshinhan: 200,000
Yamcha: 120,000
Chaoz: 60,000
Piccolo is too high
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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That's exactly why, plot.
He shown no inferiority to Gohan and Krillin (the two big ki's he felt) and was going to go and save them.
I guess he could be between Gohan (who I have at 250K) and Freeza (530K).
He shown no inferiority to Gohan and Krillin (the two big ki's he felt) and was going to go and save them.
I guess he could be between Gohan (who I have at 250K) and Freeza (530K).
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All we know is that he has vastly powered up, which could be a less than x2 power-up, and Nail could be impressed with his power because is higher than that of the average Namekian Warrior-type (they are around 3.000). We don't even know if he could sense the powers on Namek, and he most likely couldn't since he only sensed Freeza's power when he arrived. And it wasn't even necessary for the plot at all, since the moment he arrived, he merged with Nail.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Link doesn't work, it redirects me to the homepage.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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