Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[RandomGuy96]

Besides, the Trunks/Mai thing was adorable.

The Trunks/Mai thing was incredibly creepy.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Besides, the Trunks/Mai thing was adorable.

The Trunks/Mai thing was incredibly creepy.

Trunks had a crush on her. They held hands. Nothing more. I fail to see what's creepy about that, especially not any more so than Goku in GT and Chi Chi would have been had anything been implied.

[RandomGuy96]

Besides, the Trunks/Mai thing was adorable.

The Trunks/Mai thing was incredibly creepy.

Trunks had a crush on her. They held hands. Nothing more. I fail to see what's creepy about that, especially not any more so than Goku in GT and Chi Chi would have been had anything been implied.

She's in her 40s/50s. He is 12.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

She's in her 40s/50s. He is 12.

41 in March to be exact.

[RandomGuy96]

She's in her 40s/50s. He is 12.

41 in March to be exact.

According to BOG? Because that movie has some timeline errors.

[Gyt Kaliba]

She's in her 40s/50s. He is 12.

Chi Chi is in her 50's/60's/whatever in GT, Goku is wished back to being, what, 14-ish? However the heck old he was during the Pilaf material. Do you also have issue with that?

[KentalSSJ6]

Besides, the Trunks/Mai thing was adorable.

The Trunks/Mai thing was incredibly creepy.

Roshi's usual antics and Bulma flashing him in DB must make you wanna vomit.

[RandomGuy96]

She's in her 40s/50s. He is 12.

Chi Chi is in her 50's/60's/whatever in GT, Goku is wished back to being, what, 14-ish? However the heck old he was during the Pilaf material. Do you also have issue with that?

Roshi's usual antics and Bulma flashing him in DB must make you wanna vomit.

Both of those are also creepy, yes. But at least Roshi's antics are presented as 'wrong', even though they're played far too lightly.

[TheGmGoken]

Trunks had a crush on Mai? I thought he lied to impress my mans Goten. Then again I haven't watched or read anything BoG related since I took Tinesha to see it so I'm probably forgetting something.

[KentalSSJ6]

I think your reading into this too much. Call it cultural differences or personal reasons, I see no reason why its creepy.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Well, at least you're consistent, I guess, but...you'd really rather Goku just up and abandon (er...more...than he always does anyway...) his wife of so many years, just because he suddenly finds himself in a child's body?

[RandomGuy96]

I think your reading into this too much. Call it cultural differences or personal reasons, I see no reason why its creepy.

If you seriously can't see why Roshi's antics or a middle aged woman being in a romantic relationship with 12 year old boy is creepy, then I don't know what to tell you.

Well, at least you're consistent, I guess, but...you'd really rather Goku just up and abandon (er...more...than he always does anyway...) his wife of so many years, just because he suddenly finds himself in a child's body?

Believe it or not, I actually haven't seen most of GT, so I was going off the premise. Then again, Goku retains his adult mind and can transform into an adult body, so these are still two adults... technically. It's far different from the Trunks/Mai thing. I can't comment on the mechanics or how would it work out later. Shouldn't he just be capable of asking the dragon to turn him back into a man?

[KentalSSJ6]

I think your reading into this too much. Call it cultural differences or personal reasons, I see no reason why its creepy.

If you seriously can't see why Roshi's antics or a middle aged woman being in a romantic relationship with 12 year old boy is creepy, then I don't know what to tell you.

Its a fictional fantasy world with animal people, a race of space warriors that turn into 30 foot apes, and cats and pigs that can shapeshift? And that I dont care?

[Saiga]

Well, at least you're consistent, I guess, but...you'd really rather Goku just up and abandon (er...more...than he always does anyway...) his wife of so many years, just because he suddenly finds himself in a child's body?

Huuuuuuuuuge difference between Chi-Chi and Trunks. Chi-Chi isn't a child.

[RandomGuy96]

I think your reading into this too much. Call it cultural differences or personal reasons, I see no reason why its creepy.

If you seriously can't see why Roshi's antics or a middle aged woman being in a romantic relationship with 12 year old boy is creepy, then I don't know what to tell you.

Its a fictional fantasy world with animal people, a race of space warriors that turn into 30 foot apes, and cats and pigs that can shapeshift?

Which has what to do with this?

[KentalSSJ6]

I don't see the point in whining about a pervy old man and a teen with little to no shame when compared to everything else we see in this franchise.

Again, who cares?

[Gyt Kaliba]

Believe it or not, I actually haven't seen most of GT, so I was going off the premise. Then again, Goku retains his adult mind and can transform into an adult body, so these are still two adults... technically. It's far different from the Trunks/Mai thing. I can't comment on the mechanics or how would it work out later. Shouldn't he just be capable of asking the dragon to turn him back into a man?

I forget exactly how this went down, and I can't remember if it was the same between the dub and the sub, but to the best of my recollection, there was something about Shenlong's power not being able to go beyond the power of the Black Star Dragon Balls. And between Baby using them first, Piccolo's death, and the Earth exploding again even if they did use them, there's a plethora of reasons as to why they don't try for those ones again. So Goku is left to grow up into an adult again at a normal pace, something Chi Chi seemed to resign herself to.

Huuuuuuuuuge difference between Chi-Chi and Trunks. Chi-Chi isn't a child.

I repeat, all that was implied is that they held hands. And thus it was cute. I don't see why them holding hands was creepy. And, as Kental points out, this is an insane fantasy world, where normal logic doesn't always hold much water, so if she were to grow up (again) alongside Trunks? I again see nothing particularly creepy about that. Besides, it's clear that she and Pilaf (Shu's debatable) are only about child level intellectually anyway, based on their reactions to both Bulma and Trunks' actions, both back in the first story arc, and in this movie.

[RandomGuy96]

I don't see the point in whining about a pervy old man and a teen with little to no shame when compared to everything else we see in this franchise.

Again, who cares?

You still haven't answered my question about what 30 foot tall monkeys have to do with creepy pseudo-adult/child romance being treated as 'cute' and borderline rapist old men being treated as comically quirky at worst and heroic at best.

Like, I know why this stuff is there. Cultural differences and everything. But I'd think that most people would just ignore it or nervously laugh it off. Not embrace it and call it cute/funny/whatever.

I forget exactly how this went down, and I can't remember if it was the same between the dub and the sub, but to the best of my recollection, there was something about Shenlong's power not being able to go beyond the power of the Black Star Dragon Balls. And between Baby using them first, Piccolo's death, and the Earth exploding again even if they did use them, there's a plethora of reasons as to why they don't try for those ones again. So Goku is left to grow up into an adult again at a normal pace, something Chi Chi seemed to resign herself to.

He still has an adult mind and can transform into an adult body whenever he feels like it, so I don't think it's quite the same thing. Also, that doesn't make much sense to me. They couldn't just wish him back to normal and kill Piccolo later? Or just wish him back to normal and then kill the dragon (why did Piccolo even need to sacrifice himself?)? Or remember that the dragon balls can't affect anyone stronger than Kami?

Besides, it's clear that she and Pilaf (Shu's debatable) are only about child level intellectually anyway, based on their reactions to both Bulma and Trunks' actions, both back in the first story arc, and in this movie.

They are comically quirky and inept. They still have the developed minds of adults.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

No, it's not cheaper. The character designer for a television series makes even more money than the series director, though I doubt it's different for a film given the character designer typically acts as the chief animation supervisor. The chief animation supervisor is typically more on-hands with the key animators (unless the director himself is a talented animator). We know Yamamuro is creating new character designs for the main characters, so I can't imagine this was a case of Yamamuro needing to save time by reusing his old designs. My guess is that he asked to direct the film or was asked to by request of Toriyama...or Morishita Kouzou.

This is Yamamuro's first directing gig, so I can't imagine he was brought on to 'save money' so much as because nobody else would want to direct a movie on the budget and production schedule this movie is going to have.

Yeah, that's a shame. Their asking production time has already taken a toll on the extremely busy company. It's never a good news when someone has to be a director and act as a chief animation supervisor and character designer, like Yamamuro is. It would be nice if their production time allows them one year to pull off the movie. With the money they have profited from the international screenings plus Japan, and the increased production time, they would have found someone to direct the movie, and have someone else take over character designer. The animation would turn out excellent, like the recent Detective Conan movies and Precure.

[Chuquita]

The bits I've seen from the HaCha movie look so much better than the series does, it's amazing. I want to see a fluid, stylish animation style applied to DB. I'm just tired of Yamamuro.