Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 16; Still Unreleased

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Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming...

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:03 pm

NitroEX wrote:Is this radio interview online? Can you at least provide a link so we can all hear it for ourselves?

Also, if you want a Mr. Satan that sounds like Hulk Hogan you have the option of hearing Chris Rager's performance in the Funi dub. I don't see the point in having Ocean copy Funimation's casting, Don Brown is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_snEpBIjhx0

Still haven't seen it myself, and in the comment section, one user says that it would be baffling if Devall isn't playing Mr. Satan in the dub.
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Post by NitroEX » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:02 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_snEpBIjhx0

Still haven't seen it myself, and in the comment section, one user says that it would be baffling if Devall isn't playing Mr. Satan in the dub.
So I just listened to the interview and while there is a very brief mention of Devall working on Kai at around 23m26s he doesn't go into any detail on which character he's playing so there really isn't much to go on. It's nice to know an actor of his caliber is part of the cast though, I'm pretty sure he's never acted in anything Dragonball before so there's really no telling who he might be.

Mr. Satan is also briefly mentioned at one point during the interview here but that's only because fans of MLP thought his Iron WIll character sounds like Chris Rager's Mr. Satan, which, it admittedly kinda does. I guess fans of the show assumed Chris was on the show until it was revealed to be Devall doing the voice instead.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:52 pm

NitroEX wrote:So I just listened to the interview and while there is a very brief mention of Devall working on Kai at around 23m26s he doesn't go into any detail on which character he's playing so there really isn't much to go on. It's nice to know an actor of his caliber is part of the cast though, I'm pretty sure he's never acted in anything Dragonball before so there's really no telling who he might be.

Mr. Satan is also briefly mentioned at one point during the interview here but that's only because fans of MLP thought his Iron WIll character sounds like Chris Rager's Mr. Satan, which, it admittedly kinda does. I guess fans of the show assumed Chris was on the show until it was revealed to be Devall doing the voice instead.
I wasn't saying that Devall was Mr. Satan in the dub, I was just saying that he might be playing him.
NitroEX wrote:I don't see the point in having Ocean copy Funimation's casting.
Kirbopher said in earlier pages that the new Ocean Zarbon will sound a lot like Tatum, so there's a chance that they have recasted Mr. Satan.
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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:00 pm

Ryuga being pronounced RAIuga hurts me physically.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:58 am

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Ryuga being pronounced RAIuga hurts me physically.
Is he pronounced like that in the Latin American dub?
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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:35 am

God NO! Didnt you see that clip from the canadian dub of Beyblade? THAT DAMN CLIP. God why!?

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:57 am

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:God NO! Didnt you see that clip from the canadian dub of Beyblade? THAT DAMN CLIP. God why!?
Yes, I have seen it and it is THAT bad.
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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:34 pm

If this dub comes out on Teletoon and succeeds, I hope it gains enough success for a dub of The Final Chapters.
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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:19 pm

I know right? Its in that clip where Ryuga is pronounced wrong. Its irritating.

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Post by Attitudefan » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:11 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:If this dub comes out on Teletoon and succeeds, I hope it gains enough success for a dub of The Final Chapters.
I honestly think the Ocean Kai could reinvigorate interest for Dragon Ball on North American airwaves. It would garner attention from the folks down south to see what all the hubbub is about and of course, bring more interest of the franchise to Canadian TV beyond the show itself.

So, when I hear that the networks aren't buying, I am shocked. What a poor business decision. Just awful. Most likely these executives are out of touch, and seeing ratings for TV in general, that this is probably the case.

But with DB Super coming to Crunchyroll, without the dub, it makes me wonder what exactly is the problem with the license. There's gotta be some kind of distribution conflict going on. Maybe not since Funimation does have the rights to Super but perhaps there is conflict with streaming in Canada in terms of dubbed material. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.
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Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming...

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:33 pm

Attitudefan wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:If this dub comes out on Teletoon and succeeds, I hope it gains enough success for a dub of The Final Chapters.
I honestly think the Ocean Kai could reinvigorate interest for Dragon Ball on North American airwaves. It would garner attention from the folks down south to see what all the hubbub is about and of course, bring more interest of the franchise to Canadian TV beyond the show itself.

So, when I hear that the networks aren't buying, I am shocked. What a poor business decision. Just awful. Most likely these executives are out of touch, and seeing ratings for TV in general, that this is probably the case.

But with DB Super coming to Crunchyroll, without the dub, it makes me wonder what exactly is the problem with the license. There's gotta be some kind of distribution conflict going on. Maybe not since Funimation does have the rights to Super but perhaps there is conflict with streaming in Canada in terms of dubbed material. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.
I doubt that Americans would care about a Canadian dub of Kai since they already have their own dub.
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Post by Bansho64 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:38 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote: I doubt that Americans would care about a Canadian dub of Kai since they already have their own dub.
Yet, a large number of Americans in this thread have been discussing this dub for over 150 pages, including me.

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Post by Attitudefan » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:43 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote: I doubt that Americans would care about a Canadian dub of Kai since they already have their own dub.
Yet, a large number of Americans in this thread have been discussing this dub for over 150 pages, including me.
Exactly. Some of the first people who brought this to light were Americans.

Plus, dub wars between fans are not always a bad thing. It always brings attention and interest to the series.
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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:24 am

I'm still surprised that Kelamis wasn't allowed to audition, since he is the most popular of the Ocean Gokus and sounds the closest to Nozawa. It was kind of rude of the producers not allowing him to audition. I think if he had returned, he could have been great like in the three Pioneer dubs.
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Post by NitroEX » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:54 am

Wasn't allowed? I'm pretty sure he just said he didn't know it was happening, I think Corlett said the same thing. Either their agents didn't inform them of the audition or Ocean didn't bother calling them. They could've also been busy at the time, I know Corlett gets a lot more work than he did back in the 90s so maybe it was just a schedule issue.

Although, another possibility could be the fact that both of them quit the role the first time around. I could see that being a legitimate reason not to call either of them back since they would ideally want a committed actor for the lead role.

I do think it's a shame neither of them seem to be involved, I would've at least liked to hear them as a brief cameo or maybe one of them could've voiced Bardock as a nice nod to the original dub. If they ever dubbed Super (which definitely won't be happening) I would love to hear either of them as Black.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:25 am

Corlett wouldn't have auditioned for the role anyway since he dislikes dubbing anime because of the restrictions and the fact that voice actors can't work in groups. Pity, because I think he could have been a lot better in Kai if he put much more effort into his screams.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:47 am

That's correct, NitroEX, neither of them were contacted at all about auditions and didn't know even know what Kai was until people started asking. I get the impression that the producers just re-auditioned whoever played the role last (which would be Kirby Morrow in the case of Goku) and went about casting other actors if the they didn't approve of the latest auditions. That wouldn't be without precedent, as that's actually what happened with the Looney Tunes cast several times.

For that matter, Corlett couldn't audition anyway since he moved from Vancouver to LA. Did he say somewhere that he doesn't like dubbing? I'm not saying he didn't, maybe he did, I just don't recall him saying that. As I understand it, the reason he stopped dubbing Goku was because of a payment dispute with Ocean, who Corlett said was "notorious for short-changing their actors."
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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:14 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote:For that matter, Corlett couldn't audition anyway since he moved from Vancouver to LA.


I'm quite sure that Corlett still lives in Vancouver, and only goes to LA to do some voice acting there.
TheBlackPaladin wrote:Did he say somewhere that he doesn't like dubbing?
I think he said that in an interview, but I can't find it anywhere. He said in another interview that he auditioned for the role of Hot Shot in Transformers Cybertron but he felt he didn't get the role because it was well-known that he disliked dubbing anime.
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Post by NitroEX » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:25 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote: For that matter, Corlett couldn't audition anyway since he moved from Vancouver to LA. Did he say somewhere that he doesn't like dubbing? I'm not saying he didn't, maybe he did, I just don't recall him saying that. As I understand it, the reason he stopped dubbing Goku was because of a payment dispute with Ocean, who Corlett said was "notorious for short-changing their actors."
I listened to a Trevor Devall interview somewhere (I think it was with Kirbopher) where he mentioned something about Ian Corlett having an apartment in LA and going there every once in a while for work. I don't believe Ian actually lives there permanently though, with someone like David Kaye I think that's certainly true but Corlett has been in many Canadian productions in recent years including MLP and Sausage Party so he's definitely still active in Canada. I think he's just too busy to fit anime projects into his schedule anymore, either that or they simply don't pay enough to warrant him doing them.

As for what he allegedly said about Ocean, I'm not sure what to make of that. In interviews that I've seen he's described it as being a problem with the union contracts at the time so it seems to have been a larger problem with their voice industry as a whole which was rectified shortly after the anime boom of the early 2000s. From the perspective of only voicing western cartoons I could see it being more reasonable to not count grunts and yells as paid lines but that attitude quickly changed once anime dubbing became a major thing in Canada. He doesn't seem to have any bad blood with Ocean because he continued to work on a few other anime dubs after he quit DBZ not to mention all the cartoons he voiced. It all seems to hint at a good working relationship.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:28 pm

I think there's another reason why Ocean isn't getting more anime work: they have a mixed reputation within the anime community. You either like their dubs or dislike them. Gundam 00's dub is a very controversial one.
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