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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu May 16, 2013 8:49 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Saiyan God is red, period.
Most likely, but it's possible that just like how aura's have different colors, SSJ God can too. And until we see someone else become SSJ God, nothing is confirmed.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by Insertclevername » Thu May 16, 2013 9:11 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Saiyan God is period red.
Fixed for you.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu May 16, 2013 11:24 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Saiyan God is red, period.
That's boring and rather disappointing for Vegeta. I don't think he rocks the red all that well.
Yeah... Vegeta is not a Super Saiyan God, so it doesn't matter.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Saiyan God is red, period.
Most likely, but it's possible that just like how aura's have different colors, SSJ God can too. And until we see someone else become SSJ God, nothing is confirmed.
Ki has nothing to do with hair. Super Saiyan makes hair golden, Super Saiyan God makes them red. Super Saiyan 4 is a different thing, since it makes lots of changes in the Saiyan's body instead of just changing the hair color. For ki, since we know that it's affected by one's personality, its color should be affected by that, but not the hair.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Saiyan God is period red.
Fixed for you.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu May 16, 2013 11:29 pm

Vegeta will have it, I'm 99% sure of that.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri May 17, 2013 12:02 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Ki has nothing to do with hair. Super Saiyan makes hair golden, Super Saiyan God makes them red. Super Saiyan 4 is a different thing, since it makes lots of changes in the Saiyan's body instead of just changing the hair color. For ki, since we know that it's affected by one's personality, its color should be affected by that, but not the hair.
Until confirmed, anything can happen. Seriously Vegeta would look terrible in red with his Saiyan Battle armor.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by Rocketman » Fri May 17, 2013 1:13 am

Baby blue is somewhat ridiculous, however. It looks washed-out, not powerful.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by elyas11 » Fri May 17, 2013 4:40 am

Guys guys, as long as nothing is confirmed about more SSJG, this is simply a battle of opinions. Toriyama would do something against what 'makes sense' and we know that so saying something doesn't make sense is kind of off here.
Let's just all agree that everyone should like what they want to like and end of story.

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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by hleV » Fri May 17, 2013 7:07 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote: GT is possible canon so you can't disregard it as a possibility.
I guess I'm done with you then.
Kamiccolo9 wrote: Different fighters do seem to have differently colored ki.
How did you go from different Saiyans to different fighters? Non-Saiyans have nothing to do with anything here.
Gyt Kaliba wrote: They spent all this time building up that it was such a legendary form that only ONE person could reach, only for it to turn right around and anybody can hit it and, turns out, it's not the end-all of power after all. I see that change to be no less damning (more so really) than Super Saiyan God possibly having different colors depending on who uses it.
I just told you that this "One Super Saiyan" is a legend and is not based on facts. Hell, there may have only been ONE Super Saiyan (or one each 1,000 years, anyway) in the past, so one may have thought that two at the same time is impossible. The legend was proven wrong and there's absolutely no problem with it because it wasn't a fact. The way YOU feel about it doesn't change that.

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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri May 17, 2013 7:32 am

hleV wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote: Different fighters do seem to have differently colored ki.
How did you go from different Saiyans to different fighters? Non-Saiyans have nothing to do with anything here.
Fine. Different Saiyans. It's still true.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by hleV » Fri May 17, 2013 7:40 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
hleV wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote: Different fighters do seem to have differently colored ki.
How did you go from different Saiyans to different fighters? Non-Saiyans have nothing to do with anything here.
Fine. Different Saiyans. It's still true.
The original manga (and thus, Akira Toriyama) disagrees with you. I wonder which one is right...

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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by Cold Skin » Fri May 17, 2013 8:55 am

Guys, guys, this partly depends on what you accept as a basis for the story.
For example, the anime will consider that a same energy may change colors depending on the person and circumstances, regardless of the fact that they're the same race using the same kind of function.
The manga, on the contrary, implies that all humanoids form share the same energy color regardless of who they are or how they use it, only people having a clear alien morphology (Piccolo or Freezer) will display another color-variated energy at times, though it excludes very unique kinds of energy (Kaioken's "overheat" energy will go red and Genki Dama's "borrowed / Earth-sourced energy" will go blue).

So it is implied that if you take the anime as your main basis, Super Saiyan God may have a different color depending on who reaches it (like Kame Hame Ha and Garlic Cannon are exactly the same thing, yet have different colors due to the user, or like the Super Saiyan 4), and if you take the manga as your main basis, Super Saiyan God will likely be the same for all Saiyans.
Basically, the manga shows that everyone has the same color for a same function except special uses of Ki by "alien morphology" races or uses of Ki that goes beyond the natural inner energy ("overheating" it or being "planetary-borrowed"), while the anime goes Power Rangers and everyone may have their own color for the same function just because they are who they are (orange/yellow Kikoho, blue Kame Hame Ha, purple Garlic Cannon, and yet they're all strongly concentrated energy beams).

So everything is possible, depending on if you give priority to the official anime interpretation (everyone has their own color for a same thing) or the official manga interpretation (everyone has the same color for a same thing as long as they have the same humanoid morphology, unless very unusual circumstances "taint" it).

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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri May 17, 2013 9:04 am

hleV wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote: GT is possible canon so you can't disregard it as a possibility.
I guess I'm done with you then.
I'm getting really tired of your attitude. GT likely takes place in alternate universe just like how the movies take place in alternate universes. Toriyama stated in the Daizenshuu 6 that he sees the films as alternate universes.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri May 17, 2013 9:13 am

dbzfan7 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Ki has nothing to do with hair. Super Saiyan makes hair golden, Super Saiyan God makes them red. Super Saiyan 4 is a different thing, since it makes lots of changes in the Saiyan's body instead of just changing the hair color. For ki, since we know that it's affected by one's personality, its color should be affected by that, but not the hair.
Until confirmed, anything can happen. Seriously Vegeta would look terrible in red with his Saiyan Battle armor.
I don't see any reason for multiple colors just because you don't like a hypothetical Super Saiyan God Vegeta with red hair. Seriously, Saiyan has black hair, Oozaru has brown, Super Saiyan has golden, and Super Saiyan God has red. It's so simple.
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Vegeta will have it, I'm 99% sure of that.
Let's talk about it when it will actually happen.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri May 17, 2013 11:04 am

hleV wrote:I just told you that this "One Super Saiyan" is a legend and is not based on facts. Hell, there may have only been ONE Super Saiyan (or one each 1,000 years, anyway) in the past, so one may have thought that two at the same time is impossible. The legend was proven wrong and there's absolutely no problem with it because it wasn't a fact. The way YOU feel about it doesn't change that.
I get that, I really do - but what I'm trying to express to you here is that it was still a big change from what was expected (if it wasn't, nobody would have been as surprised when Trunks popped up and transformed), and it's no less illogical then the idea of Super Saiyan God forms looking different from each other. Hell, I'm not even truly fighting for the idea that they would, because I'm not sure they'd take that route either - I'm just saying there's no need to crush people's ideas like that since it's all just in their 'fanon' right now anyway.

I don't think I'm going to be able to get my point across any better than that though, especially since you seem to have this ingrained thought process of 'GT/BOG/AF are all one thing and equally bullshit meh', and I miss when this thread was actually getting new fan art posted instead of arguing about Super Saiyan God in like three threads at once...so I'm out.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri May 17, 2013 1:35 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: I don't see any reason for multiple colors just because you don't like a hypothetical Super Saiyan God Vegeta with red hair. Seriously, Saiyan has black hair, Oozaru has brown, Super Saiyan has golden, and Super Saiyan God has red. It's so simple.
It's called changing the formula. I never said it was going to be like that. It's fun speculation that is not contradicted. Seriously SSJG breaks the Super Saiyan tradition of everything being gold and makes the user skinnier, what stops the possibility of things changing further. They could make SSJG3 for all we know. SSJ4 had Vegeta have brown hair and crimson fur compared to Goku's Black hair and reddish/pinkish fur. Anything is possible.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri May 17, 2013 4:16 pm

I hesitate to post this fan art since it's got Super Saiyan God in it, but...it amused me, given all the discussion about how similar Super Saiyan and Super Sonic are, heh.

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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Fri May 17, 2013 5:16 pm

Love it! :P

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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri May 17, 2013 5:21 pm

Nice :lol:
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri May 17, 2013 5:35 pm

Well...
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This is Solar Sonic, he appears in the Archie Comics. I'm just using fan art because this is a better quality than the scan of the comic. This also came before BoG so Goku copied Sonic in a way :lol: .
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri May 17, 2013 5:37 pm

Now they're even then :lol:

Though this scan looks different then SSJG

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