"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[FortuneSSJ]

With the amount of promotion C17 is receiving, I'm curious to see how much will do.
Get some cools moments is a given, because they wouldn't bring back an old character just to make him lose badly. Even Roshi kicked ass in ROF.

I'm curious to see how much he will do to justify all this hype, because I don't think he is this popular. A promotion like this for FT Trunks or Gohan would make sense, for C17 not so much.

I also barely heard anyone talk about his character for the last years, and even now when I hear it's mostly stupid TFS jokes.

Oh well, maybe Super will make me care for his character for the first time. Just like it did with Mai's character (well, her Future counterpart at least).

The only thing I'm confident is that they will use his character in a much better way than in GT. And that's another win for Super.

[namekiansaiyan]

Why would he have to persuade him? If the producer says to do it, 9/10 it's going to get done.

Are you saying a producer can boss around Mr.Toriyama? No way. They may have suggest it but they don't tell him what to do.

Also I doubt #17 is more popular than Yamcha, Present Trunks and Goten. I have only seem people caring about him because of this arc. Before, with an exception here and there people didn't talk about the character.

Exactly they can't tell Toriyama what to do as he would just quit. If Toei could do what they want I am sure the show would have been a lot different. 17 not being that popular is a reason why 17 will do as well as so many in this fanbase are saying he will do.

17 getting so much hype you'd think he was F.T/Gohan level popular. Who at toei is a 17 fanboy cause they either overdoing it or 17 about to put in some of the finest work in this arc.

It's a character we haven't seen in a long time, 17 coming back is a big deal.

If he was such a brilliant and relevant character he would have been brought back a long time ago. Future Trunks had a reason for not being involved whereas Android 17 does not have a reason.

[Ki Breaker]

If you would have told me 17 will come back and toie will promote him this damn hard, I would have told you to git gud at your Dragonball..

Now that's precisely what's happening, I will not be surprised if 17 actually is god tier above SSB here

[SansrivaaL]

I feel like someone at Toei likes #17 hence puts him in (same way he got in GT as one of the main antagonist), wont be surprised if he was just suggested to AT to be a part of the arc because honestly until now I find it weird as to why they went with 17 instead of Yamcha, I mean since they're going with this tactic/teamwork style being effective in a tournament with no flying then Yamcha+Roshi+Krillin+Goku (the original turtle team) would be an awesome throwback, Yamcha's quite experienced in the world of tournaments, he has experience that 17 doesnt have.

[MrBlackFox]

Maybe I'm hoping too much, but imo it'd be a waste if all this ends without see at least a glimpse of GoDs fighting
I think I could die of curiosity

[kinisking]

I wonder if 17 will out perform Vegeta. At this point, the marketing isn't a coincidence or because he's a returning character. This marketing is MASSIVE. I feel like in level of importance during royale it'll be Goku>17> Vegeta > Gohan > Krillin > everyone else.

[pacz360]

Uhh I'm confused how do toei think iwan look likes anything like shiva here?

[ArchedThunder]

I wonder if 17 will out perform Vegeta. At this point, the marketing isn't a coincidence or because he's a returning character. This marketing is MASSIVE. I feel like in level of importance during royale it'll be Goku>17> Vegeta > Gohan > Krillin > everyone else.

Vegeta has a bigger presence in the OP than 17 and both Vegeta and Gohan have a bigger presence in the ED than 17. I think 17 will be a big part of the arc, but I think the push we're seeing is largely because he's a character that's been gone for a long time. Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and 17 will probably be the top 4 though.

[SansrivaaL]

Uhh I'm confused how do toei think iwan look likes anything like shiva here?

maybe when he gets mad his face behind that furr of his shows.

[The gr]

And we have now all angels names
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/ ... index.html

I think Yamamuro was drunk when he drew this.

WOW that look terrible,I prefer the original one, and this is jiren voice actor 花輪英司
Eiji Hanawa, what everyone opinion on it

[Ki Breaker]

I wonder if 17 will out perform Vegeta. At this point, the marketing isn't a coincidence or because he's a returning character. This marketing is MASSIVE. I feel like in level of importance during royale it'll be Goku>17> Vegeta > Gohan > Krillin > everyone else.

Gohan should be above Vegeta in usefulness, not necessarily power, he has been told by goku to be the person he will depend on again and again..
Meanwhile Vegeta got zero hype

[Ki Breaker]

Uhh I'm confused how do toei think iwan look likes anything like shiva here?

Where is that written?

[FortuneSSJ]

I feel like someone at Toei likes #17 hence puts him in (same way he got in GT as one of the main antagonist), wont be surprised if he was just suggested to AT to be a part of the arc because honestly until now I find it weird as to why they went with 17 instead of Yamcha, I mean since they're going with this tactic/teamwork style being effective in a tournament with no flying then Yamcha+Roshi+Krillin+Goku (the original turtle team) would be an awesome throwback, Yamcha's quite experienced in the world of tournaments, he has experience that 17 doesnt have.

C17 is much stronger than Roshi and showed to have a good teamwork with C18 back then.
Yamcha should be stronger than Roshi and actually have some teamwork with Krillin and Tenshinhan.

Roshi is the one that doesn't make sense. Didn't make in ROF, doesn't make now.
Should we bring back Tsuru-sennin or revive Mutaito and Grandpa Gohan to join the team, because they were also experienced fighters?! Of course not.

If C17 is a Toei suggestion, Roshi is definitely from Toriyama.

[ArchedThunder]

Gohan should be above Vegeta in usefulness, not necessarily power, he has been told by goku to be the person he will depend on again and again..
Meanwhile Vegeta got zero hype

Vegeta's been the second main character of Super from the beginning, they don't need to hype him up. He still gets more push in the opening than Gohan and 17.

[kinisking]

I wonder if 17 will out perform Vegeta. At this point, the marketing isn't a coincidence or because he's a returning character. This marketing is MASSIVE. I feel like in level of importance during royale it'll be Goku>17> Vegeta > Gohan > Krillin > everyone else.

Gohan should be above Vegeta in usefulness, not necessarily power, he has been told by goku to be the person he will depend on again and again..
Meanwhile Vegeta got zero hype

Gohans the king of failing to live to his build up. Meanwhile, Vegeta is Vegeta.

[SansrivaaL]

Uhh I'm confused how do toei think iwan look likes anything like shiva here?

Where is that written?

[pacz360]

Uhh I'm confused how do toei think iwan look likes anything like shiva here?

Where is that written?

Check what herms wrote about him in his profile.
Edit: nevermind thanks SAN

[SansrivaaL]

I feel like someone at Toei likes #17 hence puts him in (same way he got in GT as one of the main antagonist), wont be surprised if he was just suggested to AT to be a part of the arc because honestly until now I find it weird as to why they went with 17 instead of Yamcha, I mean since they're going with this tactic/teamwork style being effective in a tournament with no flying then Yamcha+Roshi+Krillin+Goku (the original turtle team) would be an awesome throwback, Yamcha's quite experienced in the world of tournaments, he has experience that 17 doesnt have.

C17 is much stronger than Roshi and showed to have a good teamwork with C18 back then.
Yamcha should be stronger than Roshi and actually have some teamwork with Krillin and Tenshinhan.

Roshi is the one that doesn't make sense. Didn't make in ROF, doesn't make now.
Should we bring back Tsuru-sennin or revive Mutaito and Grandpa Gohan to join the team, because they were also experienced fighters?! Of course not.

If C17 is a Toei suggestion, Roshi is definitely from Toriyama.

They picked Roshi mostly because of him having a lot of tricky moves as said by I think Goku or Gohan, basically its not his power but his trickiness.

[Beyond]

I not even the religious type, but these people straight up did Shiva dirty.

[JulieYBM]

Hanawa Eiji is voicing Jiren? Hanawa voiced Iron Man in Disk Wars: Avengers, the series that was basically Dragon Ball Super's predecessor.