"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[SansrivaaL]

All those 11 universes gets cool titles like
The Supreme Universe
The Ultimate Universe
The Challenging Universe
The Universe of Justice
The Industrious Universe
While ours is just "Our Universe" cmon now thats not fair, give us a cool title too, like "The Fighting Universe" or "The Trouble Universe"

[Gafonso6]

All those 11 universes gets cool titles like
The Supreme Universe
The Ultimate Universe
The Challenging Universe
The Universe of Justice
The Industrious Universe
While ours is just "Our Universe" cmon now thats not fair, give us a cool title too, like "The Fighting Universe" or "The Trouble Universe"

How about "The Idiot's Universe"?

[kinisking]

Oh... I got what youre saying, the ones that only has negative things to say or disappointment in Super with little to no positivity in their comments. Actually the only person here that I know who's like that is namekiansaiyan, but I can understand him, Piccolo hasnt really been treated well in DBS, and now a guy that has been gone for more than 3 arcs just pops out of nowhere and even gets his own promo vid, that woulda sting me as well if I were a fan of a character that barely got anything in Super. Its just better to set aside your favorite character for other characters as well, I mean despite 17 coming out of nowhere, he's a cool character and is welcome to join in the cast, DBS wasted an opportunity to use 17 in the earlier arcs, he woulda been an awesome add to the cast.

I second Black and Hit as well, they'll definitely rank up high, dont know about Beerus tho, he's fun but he lies too much for my taste, tho its what makes him fun but its getting old, now that we have a huge cast with the add of the GoDs,angels,kai's and their fighters, having a poll would be fun.

Nah, there are some people who are just purely negative. Even if the episode itself is great and even if they liked the episode, you'll usually only see them talk about what they disliked. Zamasu 55, Noah , Mikado, Saiyan vegetable is gone fortunately , faded dreams has been absent lately although he definitely wasn't as bad as Saiyan vegetable, hybrid Saiyan used to be pretty bad but he's gotten better although he still mostly talks about the negatives but in a less agressive tone so I respect his input nowadays. These people aren't necessarily bad users. For instance, Mikado is negative but he can be pretty reasonable I about it. It's annoying to read their posts when you know it's always going to be 99% negative though.

I'm hesitant on black because he's a villian. They don't usually rank as high as good guys. Hit should be high but you never know.

[Legion]

Nah, the Japanese love Goku. The difference between Vegeta and Goku in the last one was far greater than the difference between Vegeta and Gohan. I'd say it's Goku> Vegeta > Future Trunks>Beerus or Gohan> Beerus or Gohan right now.

I agree. Maybe even Piccolo.

Yup, Piccolo and hit are wild cards. I honestly don't know how to predict them. They could be way less popular than Gohan or more popular than Gohan.

The only thing i'm sure is that Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Beerus, Gohan, Hit and Piccolo should be in top 10. Black too.

[FortuneSSJ]

It depends if this pool is strictly to Dragon Ball Super or the franchise as a whole, but in both cases I could still see Goku wining even though how bad is his characterization these days

I doubt most of japanese fandom (if any) would agree with what you mean here, because Goku is still the same one voiced by the same person.
They are used to his character and anime overall.

Anyway, Goku would undoubtedly win yes. The first place is predictable, I'm curious about the others.

"if any"? Pardon, but your lack of knowledge about the huge japanese fan base Dragon Ball ruined the whole point of your first sentence. We could see their hype weeks before RoF was premiering in Japan and their reactions after the infamous Super #005. By anything, they are not as critics as we are here in Kanzenshuu, but you talk like are happy with any new DB content no matter how poor is executed and that's not really true.

Are you drunk?! I don't see your point of brigining episode 5 or talking about DBS overall. We're just talking about Goku and his popularity in japan, so I will focus on this part:

Also my complaint about Goku's characterization has nothing to do with his VA, but to his personality and antics.

They are used to his personality and antics. They are also used to Nozawa's performance and anime overall. Shonen characters acting excited like Goku became something normal.
I'm not seeing japanese fans talking about Goku's "bad" characterization. Give me some examples, because I only see overseas fans that grew up watching DC Goku complaining about that.

I respect Nozawa work a lot. I'm not a dub fan, don't know where you got that.

From nowhere, I never said you were.

[lord godly da don]

Shiva is also described as formless too so I guess that is what they were going with

[Alruneia]

Spot the difference
[spoiler][/spoiler]

I see absolutely none. None whatsoever.
It is a strange comparison, but I assume they have their reasons.

[DragonBallFoodie]

YEEESSSSSSSSSSSS GOD TAILS CONFIRMED



Even his bio sounds like something that would fit Tails as a God of Destruction. SO HAPPY YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!

A many-tailed fox god of destruction? Naruto worshippers, rejoice!

[MrBlackFox]

I absolutely love that fox god
Hope he'll get some role in the future

[Yomi]

I wonder if there's going to be a new OST for 17.
With all this hype.

[Lapislettuce]

I wonder if there's going to be a new OST for 17.
With all this hype.

I liked the music that played while he was driving at the end of episode 85.

[Yomi]

I liked the music that played while he was driving at the end of episode 85.

I think that's called "Theme of Piccolo" from Kai 2014.
I don't think 17's would be so upbeat though. If he's everything their hinting at, I would expect something "badass."

[Ki Breaker]

All those 11 universes gets cool titles like
The Supreme Universe
The Ultimate Universe
The Challenging Universe
The Universe of Justice
The Industrious Universe
While ours is just "Our Universe" cmon now thats not fair, give us a cool title too, like "The Fighting Universe" or "The Trouble Universe"

The misfortune universe would be good, new threat all the time

[Ki Breaker]

Spot the difference
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Atleast let him shave before you start doing comparisons.

Spot the difference
[spoiler][/spoiler]

I see absolutely none. None whatsoever.
It is a strange comparison, but I assume they have their reasons.

Ha! There is no difference! Fooled ya

I really think he transforms though, all that hair goes in or something like that

[Noah]

Are you drunk?! I don't see your point of brigining episode 5 or talking about DBS overall. We're just talking about Goku and his popularity in japan, so I will focus on this part:

Also my complaint about Goku's characterization has nothing to do with his VA, but to his personality and antics.

They are used to his personality and antics. They are also used to Nozawa's performance and anime overall. Shonen characters acting excited like Goku became something normal.

I'm not seeing japanese fans talking about Goku's "bad" characterization. Give me some examples, because I only see overseas fans that grew up watching DC Goku complaining about that.

First off, I don't think starting a discussion asking if I'm drunk goes well with the rules we agreed twice before joining this forum. I brought RoF (movie) and Super Episode #5 as examples because you doubt the existence of a japanese fan base.

Just because they grew up hearing his original voice it doesn't mean they could be used to his recent behavior. I bet there are some in Twitter as anyone could spot the difference, but you probably never watched or paid attention to the first two series in japanese to say there are none between Goku behavior in Z to what is now in Super. That's not a complaint only atributed to dub fans, mate.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

All those 11 universes gets cool titles like
The Supreme Universe
The Ultimate Universe
The Challenging Universe
The Universe of Justice
The Industrious Universe
While ours is just "Our Universe" cmon now thats not fair, give us a cool title too, like "The Fighting Universe" or "The Trouble Universe"

The "gods terrible at their jobs" universe. Or the "Lazy" universe. Or maybe "unreliable" universe.

[Sandubadear]

All those 11 universes gets cool titles like
The Supreme Universe
The Ultimate Universe
The Challenging Universe
The Universe of Justice
The Industrious Universe
While ours is just "Our Universe" cmon now thats not fair, give us a cool title too, like "The Fighting Universe" or "The Trouble Universe"

Some of these universe titles seem to be in the wrong place btw.

For example:
Universe 8 should be "The Scheming Universe", because Iru likes to make plans and Liquir likes to correct them.
Universe 3 should be "The Industrious Universe", because Ea likes machines.

[The gr]

Quick question guys, who will be defeated by jiren to hype him up

-vegeta

-#17

-hit,I think I'm going with #17, because he really looks op,so to finally rest vegeta being​ a jobber role, but This toriyama we're talking about,of course vegeta will be the loser

Are you drunk?! I don't see your point of brigining episode 5 or talking about DBS overall. We're just talking about Goku and his popularity in japan, so I will focus on this part:

Also my complaint about Goku's characterization has nothing to do with his VA, but to his personality and antics.

They are used to his personality and antics. They are also used to Nozawa's performance and anime overall. Shonen characters acting excited like Goku became something normal.

I'm not seeing japanese fans talking about Goku's "bad" characterization. Give me some examples, because I only see overseas fans that grew up watching DC Goku complaining about that.

First off, I don't think starting a discussion asking if I'm drunk goes well with the rules we agreed twice before joining this forum. I brought RoF (movie) and Super Episode #5 as examples because you doubting the existence of a japanese fan base.

Just because they grew up hearing his original voice it doesn't mean they could be used to his recent behavior. I bet there are some in Twitter as anyone could spot the difference, but you probably never watched or paid attention to the first two series in japanese to say there are none between Goku behavior in Z to what is now in Super. That's not a complaint only atributed to dub fans, mate.

Sorry mate, but I'm seeing no one in the Japanese Twitter's​ complaining about goku

[Noah]

Sorry mate, but I'm seeing no one in the Japanese Twitter's​ complaining about goku

Don't know you knew japanese, mate. I didn't meant to state as a fact, but most likely a possibility, but this a question that maybe Herms or kei17 could answer us proper.

[FortuneSSJ]

Just because they grew up hearing his original voice it doesn't mean they could be used to his recent behavior. I bet there are some in Twitter as anyone could spot the difference, but you probably never watched or paid attention to the first two series in japanese to say there are none between Goku behavior in Z to what is now in Super.

Probably is the keyword here, because I already watched DB/DBZ/GT/Kai in japanese indeed and yes, I paid attention otherwise there was no point of watching it.
They highlight his goofy side more in DBS, but Goku is still serious when he needs to be. Overall there's not anything offensive for me to say Goku is bad characterized in Super.

That's not a complaint only atributed to dub fans, mate.

And I ask you one last time, can you confirm that? Where did you see japanese fans complaining about Goku's character in DBS?