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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:55 am

Oh, yeah, I forgot! In DBNA, Rou Kaioshin is stated to be a 2nd-tier god (normal Kaioshin). However, he is referred as Dai Kaioshin in the manga/anime. So...
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:56 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Oh, yeah, I forgot! In DBNA, Rou Kaioshin is stated to be a 2nd-tier god (normal Kaioshin). However, he is referred as Dai Kaioshin in the manga/anime. So...
Is he? I don't remember that.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Malik_DBNA » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:10 am

Neither do I. I have the manga and he's always refered to as Old Kaioshin, great ancestor, and Lord of Lords, etc. He's never refered to as Dai Kaioshin or Great Lord of Worlds or anything
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:17 am

I recall him being called as such by Goku in the anime & GT (no dub), so I assumed that he was called like that in the original manga as well.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Malik_DBNA » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:22 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I recall him being called as such by Goku in the anime & GT (no dub), so I assumed that he was called like that in the original manga as well.
I have the Dragon Box sets, manga, and the uncut GT with original Japanese Dialogue. Ill look into it. Though I'm sure Goku always called him Kaioshin or 'Old Man'
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Malik_DBNA » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:47 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I recall him being called as such by Goku in the anime & GT (no dub), so I assumed that he was called like that in the original manga as well.
I just got done watching GT and Boo Saga from Elder Kai's first appearance in Japanese, and sifted through my manga and translations. No mention of Old Kai being called the Dai Kaiohshin
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:54 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Dr. Machismo » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:27 pm

Oh yeah, I like the Ascended SS4 designs.
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Post by Malik_DBNA » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:11 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:Oh yeah, I really like the Ascended SS4 designs.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:56 am

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I recall him being called as such by Goku in the anime & GT (no dub), so I assumed that he was called like that in the original manga as well.
I just got done watching GT and Boo Saga from Elder Kai's first appearance in Japanese, and sifted through my manga and translations. No mention of Old Kai being called the Dai Kaiohshin
It wasn't in his debut... let me do my research. 8)
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by enjyu123 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:51 am

If my memory serves right I believe he was called Rou Dai Kaioshin in GT. But I could be wrong. :think:
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by enjyu123 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:59 am

Oh and one other thing I was watching GT and I tottaly forgot about Giru where is he in your manga, because Giru brings a party wherever he goes. :idea:
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Post by Malik_DBNA » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:21 am

enjyu123 wrote:Oh and one other thing I was watching GT and I tottaly forgot about Giru where is he in your manga, because Giru brings a party wherever he goes. :idea:
I haven't forgot about Giru.

Also, in GT, Goku frequently calls Old Kai "Old Man Kaioshin" or "Kaioshin-sama". Kibitoshin calls him "Honorable Ancestor". No mention of rou dai kaioshin
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by enjyu123 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:50 am

If you google rou dai kaioshin, old kai pops up and that was what he was called in the manga As far as I recall. But you're probably right since I am not into the kai stuff, my head starts hurting thinking about all those kais. :crazy:. Also he was called Lord of lords also.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by rereboy » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:58 am

He was called Dai Kaioshin once in the Buu saga by the young Kaioshin. Might be because he's essentially fulfilling his role now that there is no Dai Kaioshin, even though he is technically a normal Kaioshin.
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Post by Malik_DBNA » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:51 pm

enjyu123 wrote:If you google rou dai kaioshin, old kai pops up and that was what he was called in the manga As far as I recall. But you're probably right since I am not into the kai stuff, my head starts hurting thinking about all those kais. :crazy:. Also he was called Lord of lords also.
I have all the manga appearances of Old Kai and he's always referred to as Old Man, Old Kai, Great Ancestor, and Old Kaioshin.
rereboy wrote:He was called Dai Kaioshin once in the Buu saga by the young Kaioshin. Might be because he's essentially fulfilling his role now that there is no Dai Kaioshin, even though he is technically a normal Kaioshin.
I think it's more likely that he simply fulfills the role due to his experience, but I went through the Buu Saga in Japanese and I never heard him called "Dai Kaioshin". Kibitoshin always calls him "Honorable Ancestor"
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:58 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:48 pm

Oh well, I'm bored to search. :P I'll just create a thread for it.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:41 pm

YOUR ART IS AMAZING! Also nice work with backstory. So in a way Boo was like Jesus but in a different way. Jesus was the image of God(IF I recall correctly) and God's son at the same time. So Boo is the image of Aladjinn
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