Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ: "Rock the Dragon" Set

NitroEX · Post by **NitroEX** » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:45 pm

Interesting stuff Ashura. Though now I'm curious as to why the Blue Water dubs didn't replace the Japanese music if AB Groupe could have made more money from having their own scores.

TheBlackPaladin · Post by **TheBlackPaladin** » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:59 pm

NitroEX wrote:Interesting stuff Ashura. Though now I'm curious as to why the Blue Water dubs didn't replace the Japanese music if AB Groupe could have made more money from having their own scores.

Perhaps because they were already saving money by using the Blue Water actors instead of the Ocean actors?

Ashura · Post by **Ashura** » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:13 pm

My guess is much like DB in the US, the ratings didn't tend to be enough to make it more than a little extra revenue for them.

I want to mention that it's not like I've talked to anyone in the AB Groupe and know for sure that's what they were thinking and that why they did their own dub, but it makes the most business sense; they had no real reason to redub it with different music otherwise unless it was somehow beneficial. Once I had read about the rest and did research into Saban and then read the whole interview with Gen Fukunaga where he mentions music licensing, the whole story sort of clicked together.

A lot of the stuff with Saban comes from usenet posts I read a long time ago when the editor for Escaflowne started posting there. Japan balked over them removing the music which is why that's the one Saban edit show that uses some of the Japanese music.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:38 am

NitroEX wrote:Interesting stuff Ashura. Though now I'm curious as to why the Blue Water dubs didn't replace the original music if AB Groupe could have made more money from having their own scores.

I don't recall ever watching a French dub cartoon series with a different soundtrack than its authentic music, so probably they didn't even think about this detail. Thank god they didn't.

All French AB Groupe dubs of Dragon Ball series and films feature its original music by Shunsuke Kikuchi, besides, they wouldn't want fans complaining because it'd decrease popularity and sales (it's on DVD in France).

Solidus · Post by **Solidus** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:40 pm

Looks like some other places have this listed. I like the way the second one has it priced at $0.00.

http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.a ... ga_1258211
http://darksidecomics.popshop.comixolog ... ub-DVD-DVD
http://pulllist.comixology.com/sku/MAR1 ... ub-DVD-DVD
http://www.tfaw.com/Profile/Dbz-Saiyan- ... D___424696
http://www.mailordercomics.com/catalog/ ... tegory/10/

All details have been pulled from AAA Anime so I don't know if this makes it any more credible.

eledoremassis02 · Post by **eledoremassis02** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:08 pm

Now the question is...pre-order or not to pre-order

oXdanXo · Post by **oXdanXo** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:09 pm

Solidus wrote:Looks like some other places have this listed. I like the way the second one has it priced at $0.00.

http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.a ... ga_1258211
http://darksidecomics.popshop.comixolog ... ub-DVD-DVD
http://pulllist.comixology.com/sku/MAR1 ... ub-DVD-DVD
http://www.tfaw.com/Profile/Dbz-Saiyan- ... D___424696
http://www.mailordercomics.com/catalog/ ... tegory/10/

All details have been pulled from AAA Anime so I don't know if this makes it any more credible.

Hopefully it will be on Amazon tomorrow then

90sDBZ · Post by **90sDBZ** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:20 pm

Solidus wrote:Looks like some other places have this listed. I like the way the second one has it priced at $0.00.

http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.a ... ga_1258211
http://darksidecomics.popshop.comixolog ... ub-DVD-DVD
http://pulllist.comixology.com/sku/MAR1 ... ub-DVD-DVD
http://www.tfaw.com/Profile/Dbz-Saiyan- ... D___424696
http://www.mailordercomics.com/catalog/ ... tegory/10/

All details have been pulled from AAA Anime so I don't know if this makes it any more credible.

I like how in the last linked website it says there "may be some content changes" which means that the cover art might not be the final cover art or maybe it means that the description could be wrong. So basically it could either be a re-dub of Z, Kai or the old Saban Z dub.

I honestly just want it to be the Saban dub of Z so I can own that in HD and enjoy the nostalgia. Apart from that I just don't care that much for Ocean's dub unless Ocean Kai turns out to be surprisingly good.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:25 pm

90sDBZ wrote:I honestly just want it to be the Saban dub of Z so I can own that in HD and enjoy the nostalgia.

DVDs aren't HD.

90sDBZ · Post by **90sDBZ** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:07 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
90sDBZ wrote:I honestly just want it to be the Saban dub of Z so I can own that in HD and enjoy the nostalgia.
DVDs aren't HD.

I basically just mean being able to watch it on a HD TV without it looking really bad.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:33 pm

Solidus wrote:Looks like some other places have this listed. I like the way the second one has it priced at $0.00.

http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.a ... ga_1258211
http://darksidecomics.popshop.comixolog ... ub-DVD-DVD
http://pulllist.comixology.com/sku/MAR1 ... ub-DVD-DVD
http://www.tfaw.com/Profile/Dbz-Saiyan- ... D___424696
http://www.mailordercomics.com/catalog/ ... tegory/10/

All details have been pulled from AAA Anime so I don't know if this makes it any more credible.

Since more are putting it up for sale (I'm willing to pay like $31 like it's priced on those websites), it's sort of becoming a bit hard to believe it's just a rumour from now on.

If the price is right, I'll definitely be pre-ordering it because I don't want to miss a chance leaving DBZ Ocean Dub Saiyan to Freeza out of my personal collection.

Metalwario64 wrote:DVDs aren't HD.

They aren't. You're right but the upscale that Xbox 360 and PS3 both do is fantastic, it looks really nice upscaled to 1080p HD, by far much better than watching a DVD through a DVD Player with a SCART/AV. HD rocks.

Edit 1: I don't suppose they have mixed Ocean Dub + Original DBZ music, as an extra dub choice but it'd be a nice addition.
Edit 2: Check here for the newest Amazon anime releases for pre-order - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st?keywo ... eleasedate
Edit 3: Hopefully the review section will be disabled from those numbskulls that leave a comment in the review section. I really hate that, it's misleading.

Solidus · Post by **Solidus** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:22 am

I found some more places with it. Hopefully Amazon will put it up soon.

http://westfieldcomics.com/store.cgi?Ad ... SearchPO=1
http://www.archonia.com/mangashop/en/ar ... an+dub%29/
http://www.poweranime.com/index2.cfm?pa ... emID=56935

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:57 am

How come these listings keep claiming it's episodes 1-29 and there's redubbing? The box clearly states episodes 1-26, and "The Original Television Broadcast".

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:03 pm

ABED wrote:How come these listings keep claiming it's episodes 1-29 and there's redubbing? The box clearly states episodes 1-26, and "The Original Television Broadcast".

This is what I've been trying to find out since it first popped up on AAA-Anime. I tweeted FUNimation and even Lance, but no one responded back. I guess time will tell.

Attitudefan · Post by **Attitudefan** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:47 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:
ABED wrote:How come these listings keep claiming it's episodes 1-29 and there's redubbing? The box clearly states episodes 1-26, and "The Original Television Broadcast".

This is what I've been trying to find out since it first popped up on AAA-Anime. I tweeted FUNimation and even Lance, but no one responded back. I guess time will tell.

Like I said, I have a feeling it is labled original broadcast so it is not to be confused with FUNi Kai. I doubt the producers could call it The Ocean Dub.

Thanos · Post by **Thanos** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:52 pm

The most bizarre thing to me is how there's obviously this huge renaissance of Dragon Ball in Japan surrounding Battle of Gods, yet here we are in the United States and FUNimation is like, "Hey, you guys... look... the ocean dub on DVD. Cool, right? Well seeya."

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:07 pm

Thanos wrote:The most bizarre thing to me is how there's obviously this huge renaissance of Dragon Ball in Japan surrounding Battle of Gods, yet here we are in the United States and FUNimation is like, "Hey, you guys... look... the ocean dub on DVD. Cool, right? Well seeya."

Haha Yup!

Hopefully they're trying to distract us that way they can announce the new movie here

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:09 pm

I don't know if anyone has brought up the point that why let the old dub waste away in their archive? Why not try to monetize it? People talk about milking Dragon Ball (or any franchise for that matter) like it's a bad thing. If it's something you like, why should it matter? If it means more stuff, then milk the crap out of it!

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:41 pm

ABED wrote:I don't know if anyone has brought up the point that why let the old dub waste away in their archive? Why not try to monetize it? People talk about milking Dragon Ball (or any franchise for that matter) like it's a bad thing. If it's something you like, why should it matter? If it means more stuff, then milk the crap out of it!

I agree! I made a post a while back about the very same thing. Why wouldn't I want my favorite show delivered to me in every which way shape or form possible? I can't think of any other fan base spoiled as much as us!

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:53 pm

oXdanXo wrote:Hopefully it will be on Amazon tomorrow then

Why exactly should Amazon post it by some tomorrow?

I mean, the product supposedly won't be out until 07/17/2013, so there's still plenty of time, but for the sake of getting customers to pre-order getting it on Amazon asap is the best decision (in case this is real, which I hope it is).

I really want this sooo much! Fingers crossed it's dual-region, i.e, R1 (NTSC) + R2 (PAL).

Kanzenshuu

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