"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[The gr]

Sorry mate, but I'm seeing no one in the Japanese Twitter's​ complaining about goku

Don't know you knew japanese, mate. I didn't meant to state as a fact, but most likely a possibility, but this a question that maybe Herms or kei17 could answer us proper.

I been surfing around in Twitter by using Google translate, and I didn't see any negatives comment in twitter, there's is a possibility for criticism about goku character in super, but in twitter I don't see that's the right place, since Twitter is very limited, they should be a Japanese forum out there that's is criticizing, but I need someone knowledgeable like Herms to answers this question

[Noah]

Probably is the keyword here, because I already watched DB/DBZ/GT/Kai in japanese indeed and yes, I paid attention otherwise there was no point of watching it.
They highlight his goofy side more in DBS, but Goku is still serious when he needs to be. Overall there's not anything offensive for me to say Goku is bad characterized in Super.

And I ask you one last time, can you confirm that? Where did you see japanese fans complaining about Goku's character in DBS?

I won't say it is just a highlight of his goofy side, but they forgot that Goku could be more than just one note character (a cheerful silly guy addicted to fighting), it's not that hard to have him act like this sometimes.

I think you misinterpreted me, when I said "That's not a complaint only atributed to dub fans" What I meant is that are people in this forum just like me who are used with the original japanese voices and yet notices how different Goku is from the previous DB series. About the japanese fan base complaining about Goku's behavior: I didn't meant to state as a fact, but most likely a possibility as I'm aware they are not critic as we are here.

[TheMathemagician]

When it comes to character polls, if we do get one now I feel like Vegeta's gonna be 1st or Future Trunks.

It depends if this pool is strictly to Dragon Ball Super or the franchise as a whole, but in both cases I could still see Goku wining even though how bad is his characterization these days

USA Goku has been great imo. Didn't really enjoy Goku all that much though beforehand outside of things like SSBKK, or spending time with Pan.

Guess I overestimated Vegeta and Future Trunks, really thought people prefer Vegeta over Goku for a lot of reasons, like Vegeta getting the best quotes or Vegeta like others says getting better character development than the one dimensional Goku.

In shonen the main character always comes top of the polls and then the rest is usually decided by who has the most action or most fights.

Didn't Bakugou beat Izuku in both the Japanese and Western Polls for the end of 2016?

[The gr]

After doing some research and using Google translate, here's negative comments about son Goku in twitter, and boy I was wrong

https://mobile.twitter.com/yellow841/st ... 5327619073 it says

ζ*'ヮ')ζ＜ドラゴンボール超の宇宙サバイバル編はひどいのは、
①全王＆大神官がウザい。気分次第で宇宙を消してしまうのである意味ザマスより悪質。
②神様の掌の上で踊らされてる悟空たちを見るのが辛い。
③宇宙消滅の危機なのに戦うことしか頭にない悟空の危機感のなさとアホさ。などなど it saysMar 5
Ζ * 'ワ') ζ <The universe survival edition over Dragon Ball is terrible,
① Whole King & Great priest is a funeral. The meaning that it will erase the universe depending on the mood Which is worse than Zamas.
② It is hard to see Goku people who are dancing on the palm of God.
③ A sense of crisis of Goku who is the only mind in fighting the crisis of the extinction of the universe and Aho. etc

another

When Vegeta is doing a good husband who is concerned about pregnant bloomers, Goku is still terrible, is not it such a long time ago? It might be strong, but who is not stupid like that is because of the earth ... brought extra trouble ...
# Dragon Ball Super

source https://mobile.twitter.com/az_mwpp/stat ... 7751831552, I'm going to stop posting the negatives comment,is only a couple I found,I just didn't post all of them

[ChaosLordBrandon]

After doing some research and using Google translate, here's negative comments about son Goku in twitter, and boy I was wrong

https://mobile.twitter.com/yellow841/st ... 5327619073 it says

ζ*'ヮ')ζ＜ドラゴンボール超の宇宙サバイバル編はひどいのは、
①全王＆大神官がウザい。気分次第で宇宙を消してしまうのである意味ザマスより悪質。
②神様の掌の上で踊らされてる悟空たちを見るのが辛い。
③宇宙消滅の危機なのに戦うことしか頭にない悟空の危機感のなさとアホさ。などなど it saysMar 5
Ζ * 'ワ') ζ <The universe survival edition over Dragon Ball is terrible,
① Whole King & Great priest is a funeral. The meaning that it will erase the universe depending on the mood Which is worse than Zamas.
② It is hard to see Goku people who are dancing on the palm of God.
③ A sense of crisis of Goku who is the only mind in fighting the crisis of the extinction of the universe and Aho. etc

another

When Vegeta is doing a good husband who is concerned about pregnant bloomers, Goku is still terrible, is not it such a long time ago? It might be strong, but who is not stupid like that is because of the earth ... brought extra trouble ...
# Dragon Ball Super

source https://mobile.twitter.com/az_mwpp/stat ... 7751831552, I'm going to stop posting the negatives comment,is only a couple I found,I just didn't post all of them

why you acting these people represent even 1% percent of the japanese fanbase LMAO

I'm guessing the people here over in the usa or UK that are saying the last jedi teaser trailer is terrible are right, and there on every video of it.

[The gr]

After doing some research and using Google translate, here's negative comments about son Goku in twitter, and boy I was wrong

https://mobile.twitter.com/yellow841/st ... 5327619073 it says

ζ*'ヮ')ζ＜ドラゴンボール超の宇宙サバイバル編はひどいのは、
①全王＆大神官がウザい。気分次第で宇宙を消してしまうのである意味ザマスより悪質。
②神様の掌の上で踊らされてる悟空たちを見るのが辛い。
③宇宙消滅の危機なのに戦うことしか頭にない悟空の危機感のなさとアホさ。などなど it saysMar 5
Ζ * 'ワ') ζ <The universe survival edition over Dragon Ball is terrible,
① Whole King & Great priest is a funeral. The meaning that it will erase the universe depending on the mood Which is worse than Zamas.
② It is hard to see Goku people who are dancing on the palm of God.
③ A sense of crisis of Goku who is the only mind in fighting the crisis of the extinction of the universe and Aho. etc

another

When Vegeta is doing a good husband who is concerned about pregnant bloomers, Goku is still terrible, is not it such a long time ago? It might be strong, but who is not stupid like that is because of the earth ... brought extra trouble ...
# Dragon Ball Super

source https://mobile.twitter.com/az_mwpp/stat ... 7751831552, I'm going to stop posting the negatives comment,is only a couple I found,I just didn't post all of them

why you acting these people represent even 1% percent of the japanese fanbase LMAO

well I didn't say this represents the Japanese fandom, since I have 0 knowledge about it,I just said there are some people criticizing goku, but I believe ever since u6,dbs have skyrocketed in popularity.And aren't you the same guy who said the Japanese people views the manga garbage

[ChaosLordBrandon]

After doing some research and using Google translate, here's negative comments about son Goku in twitter, and boy I was wrong

https://mobile.twitter.com/yellow841/st ... 5327619073 it says

another source https://mobile.twitter.com/az_mwpp/stat ... 7751831552, I'm going to stop posting the negatives comment,is only a couple I found,I just didn't post all of them

why you acting these people represent even 1% percent of the japanese fanbase LMAO

well I didn't say this represents the Japanese fandom, since I have 0 knowledge about it,I just said there are some people criticizing goku, but I believe ever since u6,dbs have skyrocketed in popularity.And aren't you the same guy who said the Japanese people views the manga garbage

I said some just like here and vice versa. just like people think the anime trash and the manga is better.

and sorry about the mess up there. I misread your comment.

[The gr]

I said some just like here and vice versa. just like people think the anime trash and the manga is better.

and sorry about the mess up there.

Well that opinion is irelevant IMO,the anime is More popular than the Manga everywhere where I go, but let's ditch this conversation

I think we need a popularity poll, just to see how popular is #17, because I think all of us are underestimating his popularity

[Sodhi]

Looks like they are talking about power levels not sure?. Translation by anyone would be appreciated
https://mantan-web.jp/2017/04/15/201704 ... 2000c.html

[ChaosLordBrandon]

I said some just like here and vice versa. just like people think the anime trash and the manga is better.

and sorry about the mess up there.

Well that opinion is irelevant IMO,the anime is More popular than the Manga everywhere where I go, but let's ditch this conversation

I think we need a popularity poll, just to see how popular is #17, because I think all of us are underestimating his popularity

100% percent agreed here friend.

17 must be loved by somebody at Toei to get this much hype, not even Future Trunks got this much hype.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

Looks like they are talking about power levels not sure?. Translation by anyone would be appreciated
https://mantan-web.jp/2017/04/15/201704 ... 2000c.html

Were gonna have to send that Herms, Alakazam or somebody else because that is a lot of Japanese text.

[The gr]

I said some just like here and vice versa. just like people think the anime trash and the manga is better.

and sorry about the mess up there.

Well that opinion is irelevant IMO,the anime is More popular than the Manga everywhere where I go, but let's ditch this conversation

I think we need a popularity poll, just to see how popular is #17, because I think all of us are underestimating his popularity

100% percent agreed here friend.

17 must be loved by somebody at Toei to get this much hype, not even Future Trunks got this much hype.

Or maybe this was toriyama idea, since i saw an artwork of him

Looks like they are talking about power levels not sure?. Translation by anyone would be appreciated
https://mantan-web.jp/2017/04/15/201704 ... 2000c.html

It really looks like the case here's what it says[spoiler]A new chapter "Space Survival" of TV animation "Dragon Ball Super (Super)" (Fuji Television System) based on popular manga by Akira Toriyama. In "Dragon Ball" series, the figure that the hero, Son Goku fight against the enemy appearing one after another has been drawn, but the new chapter is held "power competition" by the representative warriors of the whole universe, and more enemies than ever It appears one after another. Because the grandfather is worried about "Inflation of strength" because it is too spectacular, there are also voices of fans who worry about inflation of strength, and it seems as if we can not keep up with the inflation of the strength. Also I wonder if places of activity are prepared for characters like Turtle Sennin and Kuririn It will be. Directly hit producer Hiroyuki SAKURDA Hiroyuki Sakurada who creates animation and tried a simple question such as "Can inflation be OK?" "Can Takeno Sennin fight?"

◇ Toriyama Akira's idea breaks worry about inflation

"Dragon ball" is an original based on Toriyama's popular manga serialized in 1984-95 in "Weekly Shonen Jump" (Shueisha). TV anime has been broadcast since 86, "Dragon Ball Ultra" which started in July 2015 is the original story of a completely new work Toriyama-san. The story began after Goku declared the fight with Majin Boo, the encounter of destruction God · Bill and Goku, the battle with the resurrected freeza, Goku black, etc. were drawn.

In the new chapter · Space Survival edition, the "Power Competition" by the representative warriors of the whole universe will be held. Ten representatives of each universe such as Goku in the seventh universe participated in the tournament and the universe which was defeated immediately disappears. Sakurada Producer gave a story plan from the teacher in consultation with Professor Tori on how to do the next series about the new chapter of the magnificent story.Please inflate it with texts of talk flow, I am making a scenario. " In addition, the new chapter says that more than 100 new characters such as the representatives of each universe appear, it is said that "the site is really tough" and reveal the hardship.

The whole king who stands at the apex of all 12 universe gods evaluate and rank each universe, and it became clear that the seventh universe with Goku is the second rank from the bottom. There are also many fans surprised by the fact that there are still strong enemies in each universe, there are voices worried about the collapse of the story due to strength inflation.

Sakurada Producer says "There is still a surprise in the upper part of the" Dragon Ball ", and I think that it seems that it has a richness.When the new series starts, what will happen after this ... Mr. Toriyama will break through it, although the scale is too big this time, but I do not worry about inflation, as I think the world that I can not imagine, It may be made, and the concern (inflation) of that time will be surpassed, "he says.

◇ Turtle Sennin is strong, is not it?

In the visual of the space survival edition, characters that are considered representatives of the seventh universe are drawn. Besides familiar people such as Goku, Gohan and Vegeta, it became a hot topic among fans to see the appearance of Turtle Sennin. Kame Sennin was once called "the strongest", but mostly retired, "Dragon Ball Ultra", even though there was a scene to hit the Freeza Army, there is no noticeable success.

Sakurada Producer says, "Turtle Sennin is strong, is not it Kame Sennin or Kuririn's unique success?" Takame Sennin who seems to be unable to keep up with the strength inflation, and hits a simple question as " Maybe you can enjoy the activity of each character such as how much intuition of Gohan's battle returns, etc. Though it became this member with Mr. Toriyama's idea, the combination is interesting But, do you all see all the people drawn in the visual .... Please, look forward to it too!

In the power competition, all 10 teams and one team fight in the battle royal way. The team of players who became the last one within the time limit, the teams who have many people left at the time of time to overcome victory. Also, there are restrictions such as invalid skills flying sky, so it can be considered a brain fight. With power, there may be places of activity unique to Kame Sennin who is inferior to Goku and Kurilin.

Sakurada Producer described about the space survival edition "The popular character teams up teams and fights against the stronger representatives of the universe.What is a member and how they will be active.The original of" Dragon Ball "is the best in the world It was a battle action manga, even now I have an unspoiled charm, I have a charm beyond languages, generations and times, I want to show the space survival edition too, be exciting and exciting. " In the space survival edition, a more magnificent story, a hot battle spreads more than ever, and it seems to be enjoyable as "Goku!" Like Goku!

"Dragon ball ultra" is broadcasting at 9 o'clock every Sunday at Fuji TV system.[/spoiler]I really don't know if this is accurate

[HeroR]

I feel the need to point out that its likely some of this info is mixed up given what happened last time.

Chamoa is a lazy.

And yet he's still higher then Beerus! That proves rank dose not equal power...unless you Universe 11 that is .

On average, the U6 team was way stronger than U7's. That is how averages work, not just looking at the outliers.

[goku the krump dancer]

And we have now all angels names
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/ ... index.html

I think Yamamuro was drunk when he drew this.

Hope Jin ends up being hillbillie-ish now. That drawing makes him look like something out of Squidbillies or Aqua Teen lol. Seems very "Super Boo" in demeanor.

[Noah]

After doing some research and using Google translate, here's negative comments about son Goku in twitter, and boy I was wrong...

Just as I thought, they are dissatisfied with many points we are here too. Good search, mate

[OLKv3]

I really hate when people here act like the Japanese fanbase doesn't complain about the exact same things we do.
2ch's DBS topics were so bad that they got banned.

[The gr]

After doing some research and using Google translate, here's negative comments about son Goku in twitter, and boy I was wrong...

Just as I thought, they are dissatisfied with many points we are here too. Good search, mate

Still, this is not the vocal majority of the fandom

[Noah]

2ch's DBS topics were so bad that they got banned.

Why'?

[OLKv3]

2ch's DBS topics were so bad that they got banned.

Why'?

It had so much complaining about the end of the Zamasu arc, complete with power level arguments, and manga vs anime arguments, that people got fed up with them and started posting furry porn until the threads got deleted. Now they do it every time someone starts a DBS thread

Lesson is, if there's a forum, there will be complaining by the internet minority

[Slaythe]

Can't we all just be happy and enjoy the return of the strongest android ?

I've been waiting years for this.

Think that people used to fear Piccolo Daimao, but in the saiyan saga even Yamcha could have one shot him. They always manage to trivialize previous levels / threats in some ways.