"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Some people have been saying that since the first arc. 70+ episodes later and that comment is still true.

That's an opinion, not a fact.

[pacz360]

Until Piccolo and Tien get a boost like everyone else I can complain about Toriyama being unfair towards some characters.

Episode 87 definitely seems like the most filler this arc.

Let's just wait for episodes 88 and 89 before complaining.

Why? Isn't complaining without knowing anything what people do best around here?

Yep

[namekiansaiyan]

Let's just wait for episodes 88 and 89 before complaining.

Why? Isn't complaining without knowing anything what people do best around here?

Yep

Episode 88 is going to cause chaos in this fanbase no matter what as it has both Piccolo and Gohan in it.

[Araki]

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... 16/.114900

Toei ranked among the top 30 global licensors of 2016, thanks to One Piece and Dragon Ball Super.

Until Piccolo and Tien get a boost like everyone else I can complain about Toriyama being unfair towards some characters.

Episode 87 definitely seems like the most filler this arc.

Let's just wait for episodes 88 and 89 before complaining.

Why? Isn't complaining without knowing anything what people do best around here?

Touche. Although they're blind and refuse to take it back no matter what happens anyway.

[Overlord78]

Some people have been saying that since the first arc. 70+ episodes later and that comment is still true.

That's an opinion, not a fact.

Never said it was a fact but that comment still holds merit to me. Other people can enjoy the show all they want and more power to them, but there's not been an arc so far which I say I have truly enjoyed.

[Hellspawn28]

I like the bios of the new gods. The U4 GoD having a rivalry is not surprising to me since I thought the idea of a Cat vs. Mouse would be cool to see. It seems like U10's GoD likes to sleep too. That could explain why he didn't do anything to stop Zamasu.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

After this episode, it's pretty obvious SSB stands for Super Saiyan Bitch

I saw someone comment on YT saying Dragon Ball Super stands for Dragon Ball Shit lol.

And how exactly are posts like these adding to the discussion?

[Grimlock]

It seems like U10's GoD likes to sleep too. That could explain why he didn't do anything to stop Zamasu.

I don't understand how someone is chosen to provide a role to the Universe but prefers to do something else. They shouldn't have been chosen to begin with then if Zeno or the angels knew about their personalities. This actually don't make any sense at all.

[Hellspawn28]

The lower rank gods seem to be lazy since U10 GoD is mention to be lazy which is why he didn't bother to stop Zamasu. Also Beerus sleeps a lot which is why he didn't bother to stop Buu, the Saiyans and Freeza.

[TheMikado]

Why? Isn't complaining without knowing anything what people do best around here?

Yep

Episode 88 is going to cause chaos in this fanbase no matter what as it has both Piccolo and Gohan in it.

I'm sure no one cares or will be glad to see me go, but I'm dipping out before that. I probably won't be back until the actual tournament starts or when the manga drops. I can't take it anymore. I want to know what happens but I think a lot of us should just take a break and cool are heads. It's something a lot of us love but man is it causing strife everywhere.

[Noah]

The amount of people getting wound up by a kids cartoon from Japan is the funniest things ever...

Perharps you should take a look in VegettoEX's post in Super Episode 86 thread, mate

Androids 17 and 18 are completely organic, their enhancements are biological, so they are human, but at a much higher level than any other human. 17 and 18's base power without training is much higher than Freeza and that isn't with mechanical help.

I would like to see your source and just because Freeza had attained a huge power after having trained for the first time when he was weaker than 17 and 18, doesn't mean these characters can do the same. They are different beings with different biologies, also never was stated that Artificial Humans were prodigies/mutants with untapped power (the BS excuse for Freeza becoming stronger)

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

The lower rank gods seem to be lazy since U10 GoD is mention to be lazy which is why he didn't bother to stop Zamasu. Also Beerus sleeps a lot which is why he didn't bother to stop Buu, the Saiyans and Freeza.

We have to remember that Present!Zamasu was putting a low profile so that no one would notice. Since Zamasu did nothing suspicious the GoD could not act.
Also Gowasu's dead cause U10 GoD to die (in the future).

[kinisking]

So two things I found interesting that no one seemed to mention is:
1) Goten and Trunks might be protecting the island. It explains why they're on the manga poster with 17.

2) 17 says power isn't all it takes to protect the island. It kind of ties in with the tournament. I thought that was neat.

[FortuneSSJ]

I leave my thoughts on episode 86 here since that thread got locked:

I'm glad they mentioned Uub again and it was interesting to know that Goku is still not decided to be his senpai.
I'm surprised that the lookout can move.

Really loved C17's character!! If they keep it like this, I may finally care about his character after 20+ years of apathy.
Extra points for he mention his family even though we didn't see them.

Still, I'm disappointed that is not confirmed that C17 got influenced by A16 to care and protect nature so much. I would love that detail. Headcanon until proven otherwise!

If he wanted just to live isolated from the world, he could follow Roshi's footsteps and not commit himself to anything.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I leave my thoughts on episode 86 here since that thread got locked:

I'm glad they mentioned Uub again and it was interesting to know that Goku is still not decided to be his senpai.
I'm surprised that the lookout can move.

Really loved C17's character!! If they keep it like this, I may finally care about his character after 20+ years of apathy.
Extra points for he mention his family even though we didn't see them.

Still, I'm disappointed that is not confirmed that C17 got influenced by A16 to care and protect nature so much. I would love that detail. Headcanon until proven otherwise!

If he wanted just to live isolated from the world, he could follow Roshi's footsteps and not commit himself to anything.

Yeah the pretty much were 1:1 from Toriyama's comments on 17, shocking that they or Toriyama remembered!! Yes that Uub drop was a surprise but it was so obvious this time that I reckon it is foreshadowing for the EoZ skip, I do like how they are building towards it and acknowledge that it isn't a type of thing Goku does, it was so out of left field in EoZ.

[Lapislettuce]

The amount of people getting wound up by a kids cartoon from Japan is the funniest things ever...

Perharps you should take a look in VegettoEX's post in Super Episode 86 thread, mate

Androids 17 and 18 are completely organic, their enhancements are biological, so they are human, but at a much higher level than any other human. 17 and 18's base power without training is much higher than Freeza and that isn't with mechanical help.

I would like to see your source and just because Freeza had attained a huge power after having trained for the first time when he was weaker than 17 and 18, doesn't mean these characters can do the same. They are different beings with different biologies, also never was stated that Artificial Humans were prodigies/mutants with untapped power (the BS excuse for Freeza becoming stronger)

Again Toriyama stated that 17 has a huge potencial ! you don't know his characters better than his ! i don't get why you're still insisting on the fact that Frieza was so special when he was already waaaaay weaker than 17 and 18 at one point and Toriyama is acknowledging 17's powers why still complaining ? just why there so many bs that happened in the past that people ignored because they were happy about it.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

So two things I found interesting that no one seemed to mention is:
1) Goten and Trunks might be protecting the island. It explains why they're on the manga poster with 17.

2) 17 says power isn't all it takes to protect the island. It kind of ties in with the tournament. I thought that was neat.

Something else your point number one revealed, no spectators this time like the U6 arc. Which is relieving for me cuz I don't want them cutting to them every 5 seconds like the U6 arc that really got up my nerves!

[Noah]

Again Toriyama stated that 17 has a huge potencial ! you don't know his characters better than his ! i don't get why you're still insisting on the fact that Frieza was so special when he was already waaaaay weaker than 17 and 18 at one point and Toriyama is acknowledging 17's powers why still complaining ? just why there so many bs that happened in the past that people ignored because they were happy about it.

Again: "Blasting News" is not an accurate source. Toriyama said nothing about of 17 and 18 than just they are capable of getting stronger if they train, mostly because they're human based. He said nothing similar to Freeza being a mutant with untapped power who never trained for the androids.

[Simere]

Again Toriyama stated that 17 has a huge potencial ! you don't know his characters better than his ! i don't get why you're still insisting on the fact that Frieza was so special when he was already waaaaay weaker than 17 and 18 at one point and Toriyama is acknowledging 17's powers why still complaining ? just why there so many bs that happened in the past that people ignored because they were happy about it.

Again: "Blasting News" is not an accurate source. Toriyama said nothing about of 17 and 18 than just they are capable of getting stronger if they train, mostly because they're human based. He said nothing similar to Freeza being a mutant with untapped power who never trained for the androids.

I don't know what Blasting News is, but he's referring to this.

[Noah]

Again: "Blasting News" is not an accurate source. Toriyama said nothing about of 17 and 18 than just they are capable of getting stronger if they train, mostly because they're human based. He said nothing similar to Freeza being a mutant with untapped power who never trained for the androids.

I don't know what Blasting News is, but he's referring to this.

Yes, I knew about this producer interview, but Toriyama saying 'x' character has a great potential it could mean a lot of things, it's a vague statement. He didn't said 17 was a prodigy or anything like Freeza.