Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Nejishiki wrote:The manga for Dragon Ball Super is considered a spin-off, in a sense. He's referring to the same thing you are.
Ah. Then I'm considering the Super anime a spin off too!
But, you're right. It has no bonds with the original, but serves as entertainment
No bonds besides for the same creator.. What?
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Helios518 wrote:Toriyama didn't help with the story of GT at all, Here's a quote from him.
Toriyama wrote:“For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images.”
Still not by much with Super, considering recent rumors that he was unsatisfied with the production of the anime, but let's not derail this thread.
Anybody knows if there's a possibility of Shida could come back in this arc finale?
I'm pretty sure he said he was unsatisfied with the production around the time of the retellings. We know for a fact he had a large part in the movies so, it's obviously not the story aspects.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
Shame how this fight still looks miles better then pretty much 90% of Super.
The pace , and especially notice the weight or impact behind a kick or a punch and the sense of speed. No wonder people find ssb so underwhelming , if i had to point someone who is not a dragon ball fan and just say to him which Goku is stronger i am fairly sure that person would chose this version.
then:
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now:
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Notice how it looks lifeless compared to then. This is the main reason many still find Super and ssb such a underwhelming thing. Still so many episodes into Super and there is no sense of "weight behind their action". Don't fix or change it if it aint broken.
You are not wrong. There are so many stills used in the Super episode's clip. However in the dbz one, lots of camera shake, fluid movements, fast paced action and a waay better production. Super is like what it is mainly because of production problems, it feels like I have said that more than 100 times now
Shuby wrote:Shame how this fight still looks miles better then pretty much 90% of Super.
The pace , and especially notice the weight or impact behind a kick or a punch and the sense of speed. No wonder people find ssb so underwhelming , if i had to point someone who is not a dragon ball fan and just say to him which Goku is stronger i am fairly sure that person would chose this version.
then:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
now:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Notice how it looks lifeless compared to then. This is the main reason many still find Super and ssb such a underwhelming thing. Still so many episodes into Super and there is no sense of "weight behind their action". Don't fix or change it if it aint broken.
The Goku vs Uub fight is better than around 95% of DBS fights.
Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz was the same.
Many scenes in Super do have impact to the blows, it just depends on the scene and/or episode.
(not all clips are action in these folders) http://imgur.com/a/t5Edb http://imgur.com/a/4DsKE
48 and 57 are great examples, the action in these episodes has about as much weight as Z.
Sodhi wrote:You are not wrong. There are so many stills used in the Super episode's clip. However in the dbz one, lots of camera shake, fluid movements, fast paced action and a waay better production. Super is like what it is mainly because of production problems, it feels like I have said that more than 100 times now
The only fluid part of that Z clip is in the middle, most of it is just quick repeating frames with very little animation.
ArchedThunder wrote:Many scenes in Super do have impact to the blows, it just depends on the scene and/or episode.
(not all clips are action in these folders) http://imgur.com/a/t5Edb http://imgur.com/a/4DsKE
48 and 57 are great examples, the action in these episodes has about as much weight as Z.
Sodhi wrote:You are not wrong. There are so many stills used in the Super episode's clip. However in the dbz one, lots of camera shake, fluid movements, fast paced action and a waay better production. Super is like what it is mainly because of production problems, it feels like I have said that more than 100 times now
The only fluid part of that Z clip is in the middle, most of it is just quick repeating frames with very little animation.
Energy blasts look awkward as hell in Super. That's very off-putting for me
ArchedThunder wrote:Many scenes in Super do have impact to the blows, it just depends on the scene and/or episode.
(not all clips are action in these folders) http://imgur.com/a/t5Edb
Whoa seeing a GIF gallery like that just reminded me how unreal episode 57 was. So good!
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
