"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by MrBlackFox » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:26 pm

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MrBlackFox wrote:Piccolo will be hyped only to be humiliated badly at the tournament
Story of his useless life :'(
I'd say that's only the case in Super. He's just been treated as a big joke in Super up to this point. I'm hoping to see something from him. But I can't say I'd be surprised if he gets done dirty.

Lol at the comment that if Gohan does well then Piccolo has to do well too. That's not the case at all.
It's not just in DBS i don't remember Piccolo having a moment ever since his fight with 17.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:38 pm

TheMathemagician wrote: I'd say that's only the case in Super. He's just been treated as a big joke in Super up to this point. I'm hoping to see something from him. But I can't say I'd be surprised if he gets done dirty.

Lol at the comment that if Gohan does well then Piccolo has to do well too. That's not the case at all.
Gohan is not going to go through this match without help and who is the most likely candiadte to help him? Piccolo obviously.
MrBlackFox wrote:Now that you mentioned it, imo that meditation thing could be something big for Tien too, I see no one capable of meditating better than him, he's literally a monk

My hype for a namekian God Piccolo will kill me, I'm sure
We all know some sort of God Piccolo is the next natural thing to happen and it is for that reason why Toriyama won't do it.

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SansrivaaL wrote:Meditating is a form of training the mind, every fighter does it for mental training, I dont think that will play a role in who gets to fight who.

Usually yes, but in Super looks like it can raise your power like normal training and maybe more
Mediating has always been associated with Piccolo, while Jiren seems to do it as well. That is why I think it might play a role with Piccolo, Gohan and Jiren.
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Isn't he much loved in characters liking polls ?
His better fight was with 17, among my favourite battles in the entire DB, but I'd want to see at least One useful battle for him
Try to Imagine if he'll be the One to save the universes, that could be One of the best surprises ever :lol: will never happen tho
I want to see crazy strategies from him and some new cool move
Yes he is top 5 consistently.

I predict at least 3 fights for each universe 7 fighter.

No one would complain if he won not becuase of logic but becuase Piccolo always has brilliant fights and everyone wants this arc to have the best fights possible and Piccolo is an easy character for Toei to write good fights for.

I still think it will be a Piccolo and Gohan tag team that beats Jiren and wins the tournament.

Your last sentence will definitely happen.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:48 pm

People understate Piccolo's role in the Buu arc. Sure he wasn't necessarily a prominent fighter, but he was still a prominent character who was vital and respected. In Super he's gone to Yamcha tier of being treated like garbage.

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Post by The gr » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:50 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheMathemagician wrote: I'd say that's only the case in Super. He's just been treated as a big joke in Super up to this point. I'm hoping to see something from him. But I can't say I'd be surprised if he gets done dirty.

Lol at the comment that if Gohan does well then Piccolo has to do well too. That's not the case at all.
Gohan is not going to go through this match without help and who is the most likely candiadte to help him? Piccolo obviously.
MrBlackFox wrote:Now that you mentioned it, imo that meditation thing could be something big for Tien too, I see no one capable of meditating better than him, he's literally a monk

My hype for a namekian God Piccolo will kill me, I'm sure
We all know some sort of God Piccolo is the next natural thing to happen and it is for that reason why Toriyama won't do it.

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SansrivaaL wrote:Meditating is a form of training the mind, every fighter does it for mental training, I dont think that will play a role in who gets to fight who.

Usually yes, but in Super looks like it can raise your power like normal training and maybe more
Mediating has always been associated with Piccolo, while Jiren seems to do it as well. That is why I think it might play a role with Piccolo, Gohan and Jiren.
MrBlackFox wrote:

Isn't he much loved in characters liking polls ?
His better fight was with 17, among my favourite battles in the entire DB, but I'd want to see at least One useful battle for him
Try to Imagine if he'll be the One to save the universes, that could be One of the best surprises ever :lol: will never happen tho
I want to see crazy strategies from him and some new cool move
Yes he is top 5 consistently.

I predict at least 3 fights for each universe 7 fighter.

No one would complain if he won not becuase of logic but becuase Piccolo always has brilliant fights and everyone wants this arc to have the best fights possible and Piccolo is an easy character for Toei to write good fights for.

I still think it will be a Piccolo and Gohan tag team that beats Jiren and wins the tournament.

Your last sentence will definitely happen.
:lol: more like jiren stomps Gohan and piccolo,I don't see them even touching him, either#17, vegeta or goku defeat him or u7 losses completely and jiren will use the super DB to restore everything because he probably grow fond of goku
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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:03 pm

The gr wrote: :lol: more like jiren stomps Gohan and piccolo,I don't see them even touching him, either#17, vegeta or goku defeat him or u7 losses completely and jiren will use the super DB to restore everything because he probably grow fond of goku
If it ends up in a 1v1 with Goku and Jiren, chances are Goku will lose, but if turns out to be a team effort of Goku with someone like say Vegeta,17 or Gohan then I can see them beating him, wont be surprising if someone else wins tho, like say Roshi for laughs :lol:

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:10 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:If it ends up in a 1v1 with Goku and Jiren, chances are Goku will lose, but if turns out to be a team effort of Goku with someone like say Vegeta,17 or Gohan then I can see them beating him, wont be surprising if someone else wins tho, like say Roshi for laughs :lol:
Ehh they already did that with Monaka in the U6 arc, really did not like that would like it if they took this tournament serious regarding the premise and all, given the OP and ED thankfully looks that way.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:11 pm

I feel like not enough people think outside of the box as we know Toriyama never likes to do the obvious.

Also regarding Piccolo, he is not playing catch in terms of actually getting action as he got a fight in the last tournament while everyone apart from Goku and Vegeta didn't. Everyone was expecting him to particpiate so there is no need to hype him up like other characters. Just look at Vegeta he has done nothing this arc at all because just like Piccolo he does not need to do anything.

It seems like Piccolo is the only one so far to say yes straight away to the tournament unlike the others (including Vegeta) who just made excuses as they are not true warriors.
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SansrivaaL wrote:If it ends up in a 1v1 with Goku and Jiren, chances are Goku will lose, but if turns out to be a team effort of Goku with someone like say Vegeta,17 or Gohan then I can see them beating him, wont be surprising if someone else wins tho, like say Roshi for laughs :lol:
Ehh they already did that with Monaka in the U6 arc, really did not like that would like it if they took this tournament serious regarding the premise and all, given the OP and ED thankfully looks that way.
Also we would see it coming as we will probably know who is left on the ring at all times.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:29 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:I feel like not enough people think outside of the box as we know Toriyama never likes to do the obvious.

Also regarding Piccolo, he is not playing catch in terms of actually getting action as he got a fight in the last tournament while everyone apart from Goku and Vegeta didn't. Everyone was expecting him to particpiate so there is no need to hype him up like other characters. Just look at Vegeta he has done nothing this arc at all because just like Piccolo he does not need to do anything.

It seems like Piccolo is the only one so far to say yes straight away to the tournament unlike the others (including Vegeta) who just made excuses as they are not true warriors.
But it is in a way obvious if Piccolo gives them the win, he isnt that weak and is one of their best fighters in this sort of fight, whats surprising is characters that has no idea how this sort of battle works, 17 and Boo for example, neither has any experience when it comes to tournaments. I mentioned Roshi because he is by far their weakest and trickiest so he has means and moves in his arsenal to actually give them a win which can also be surprising.
I dont even know what surpising is when it comes to DB, mentally you'd think its in AT's style to make the weak ones bring in the win for an unpredictable outcome, but as some are already expecting that, it would still be a surprise if Goku actually gives them the win.

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Post by TheMathemagician » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:37 pm

kinisking wrote:
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MrBlackFox wrote:Piccolo will be hyped only to be humiliated badly at the tournament
Story of his useless life :'(
I'd say that's only the case in Super. He's just been treated as a big joke in Super up to this point. I'm hoping to see something from him. But I can't say I'd be surprised if he gets done dirty.

Lol at the comment that if Gohan does well then Piccolo has to do well too. That's not the case at all.
Piccolo's always been this way though. In Z he got humiliated off the bat by Dabura, and got hyped only to be destroyed by cell and Freeza. The Saiyan saga was his first and only real W. At least in the Champa arc he would've won if frost didn't cheat.
Kind of sad thinking about it but you're right in that he usually would get hyped up to never really accomplish much of anything most of the time.
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TekTheNinja wrote:People understate Piccolo's role in the Buu arc. Sure he wasn't necessarily a prominent fighter, but he was still a prominent character who was vital and respected. In Super he's gone to Yamcha tier of being treated like garbage.
Piccolo was disrespected by Goten and Trunks the entire arc. His first attempt at fighting got him turnt to stone in an instant. The Champa arc treated him better.
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Post by TheMathemagician » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:39 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheMathemagician wrote: I'd say that's only the case in Super. He's just been treated as a big joke in Super up to this point. I'm hoping to see something from him. But I can't say I'd be surprised if he gets done dirty.

Lol at the comment that if Gohan does well then Piccolo has to do well too. That's not the case at all.
Gohan is not going to go through this match without help and who is the most likely candiadte to help him? Piccolo obviously.
MrBlackFox wrote:Now that you mentioned it, imo that meditation thing could be something big for Tien too, I see no one capable of meditating better than him, he's literally a monk

My hype for a namekian God Piccolo will kill me, I'm sure
We all know some sort of God Piccolo is the next natural thing to happen and it is for that reason why Toriyama won't do it.

MrBlackFox wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:Meditating is a form of training the mind, every fighter does it for mental training, I dont think that will play a role in who gets to fight who.

Usually yes, but in Super looks like it can raise your power like normal training and maybe more
Mediating has always been associated with Piccolo, while Jiren seems to do it as well. That is why I think it might play a role with Piccolo, Gohan and Jiren.
MrBlackFox wrote:

Isn't he much loved in characters liking polls ?
His better fight was with 17, among my favourite battles in the entire DB, but I'd want to see at least One useful battle for him
Try to Imagine if he'll be the One to save the universes, that could be One of the best surprises ever :lol: will never happen tho
I want to see crazy strategies from him and some new cool move
Yes he is top 5 consistently.

I predict at least 3 fights for each universe 7 fighter.

No one would complain if he won not becuase of logic but becuase Piccolo always has brilliant fights and everyone wants this arc to have the best fights possible and Piccolo is an easy character for Toei to write good fights for.

I still think it will be a Piccolo and Gohan tag team that beats Jiren and wins the tournament.

Your last sentence will definitely happen.
So Toriyama won't do it because it's the next "natural" thing for Piccolo? More like he won't do it cause he really doesn't seem to care at the moment.

That would be implying Gohan is going entirely into this match with Piccolo and will need Piccolo every step of the way. Again, Gohan doing well doesn't at all guarantee Piccolo will.
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namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheMathemagician wrote: I'd say that's only the case in Super. He's just been treated as a big joke in Super up to this point. I'm hoping to see something from him. But I can't say I'd be surprised if he gets done dirty.

Lol at the comment that if Gohan does well then Piccolo has to do well too. That's not the case at all.
Gohan is not going to go through this match without help and who is the most likely candiadte to help him? Piccolo obviously.
MrBlackFox wrote:Now that you mentioned it, imo that meditation thing could be something big for Tien too, I see no one capable of meditating better than him, he's literally a monk

My hype for a namekian God Piccolo will kill me, I'm sure
We all know some sort of God Piccolo is the next natural thing to happen and it is for that reason why Toriyama won't do it.

MrBlackFox wrote:

Usually yes, but in Super looks like it can raise your power like normal training and maybe more
Mediating has always been associated with Piccolo, while Jiren seems to do it as well. That is why I think it might play a role with Piccolo, Gohan and Jiren.
MrBlackFox wrote:

Isn't he much loved in characters liking polls ?
His better fight was with 17, among my favourite battles in the entire DB, but I'd want to see at least One useful battle for him
Try to Imagine if he'll be the One to save the universes, that could be One of the best surprises ever :lol: will never happen tho
I want to see crazy strategies from him and some new cool move
Yes he is top 5 consistently.

I predict at least 3 fights for each universe 7 fighter.

No one would complain if he won not becuase of logic but becuase Piccolo always has brilliant fights and everyone wants this arc to have the best fights possible and Piccolo is an easy character for Toei to write good fights for.

I still think it will be a Piccolo and Gohan tag team that beats Jiren and wins the tournament.

Your last sentence will definitely happen.
:lol: more like jiren stomps Gohan and piccolo,I don't see them even touching him, either#17, vegeta or goku defeat him or u7 losses completely and jiren will use the super DB to restore everything because he probably grow fond of goku
Real talk, I would love to see Gohan and Piccolo take someone like Jiren down, but if Gohan is taking Jiren down, I honestly don't see Piccolo in that equation at all. Not to mention, I feel Goku will have the big fight with Jiren, so anybody of U7 who is strong enough to be on Jiren's radar will possibly just get wrecked by him to further increase his hype. With 17's new power, he becomes a viable candidate. Vegeta and Hit are already in the danger zone, and Piccolo very well could fall the same way too. If Jiren ends up being the big adversary Toei is hyping him to be, then I don't see Piccolo or 17 beating him at all for example.
namekiansaiyan wrote:I feel like not enough people think outside of the box as we know Toriyama never likes to do the obvious.

Also regarding Piccolo, he is not playing catch in terms of actually getting action as he got a fight in the last tournament while everyone apart from Goku and Vegeta didn't. Everyone was expecting him to particpiate so there is no need to hype him up like other characters. Just look at Vegeta he has done nothing this arc at all because just like Piccolo he does not need to do anything.

It seems like Piccolo is the only one so far to say yes straight away to the tournament unlike the others (including Vegeta) who just made excuses as they are not true warriors.
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SansrivaaL wrote:If it ends up in a 1v1 with Goku and Jiren, chances are Goku will lose, but if turns out to be a team effort of Goku with someone like say Vegeta,17 or Gohan then I can see them beating him, wont be surprising if someone else wins tho, like say Roshi for laughs :lol:
Ehh they already did that with Monaka in the U6 arc, really did not like that would like it if they took this tournament serious regarding the premise and all, given the OP and ED thankfully looks that way.
Also we would see it coming as we will probably know who is left on the ring at all times.
Lol at them not being true warriors. Vegeta doesn't need any hype because he's already an SSB, deuteragonist of the series. Piccolo doesn't have that luxury as he's really just been treated as a joke in Super.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:09 pm

TheMathemagician wrote: So Toriyama won't do it because it's the next "natural" thing for Piccolo? More like he won't do it cause he really doesn't seem to care at the moment.

That would be implying Gohan is going entirely into this match with Piccolo and will need Piccolo every step of the way. Again, Gohan doing well doesn't at all guarantee Piccolo will.
Gohan will very likely look to Piccolo for guidance
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Lol at them not being true warriors. Vegeta doesn't need any hype because he's already an SSB, deuteragonist of the series. Piccolo doesn't have that luxury as he's really just been treated as a joke in Super.
Little comments by certain characters has nothing to do with Piccolo getting picked for the team. Did you actually think before this arc got announced that Piccolo would not particpiate in this tournament?

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Post by Noah » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:43 pm

There will be new episode info this week?
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Post by Psykomatik » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:12 pm

Noah wrote:There will be new episode info this week?
Well, like every week:
- Thursday: Weekly Shonen Jump for episode 88
- Friday: First pic of episode 88

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Post by TheMathemagician » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:26 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheMathemagician wrote: So Toriyama won't do it because it's the next "natural" thing for Piccolo? More like he won't do it cause he really doesn't seem to care at the moment.

That would be implying Gohan is going entirely into this match with Piccolo and will need Piccolo every step of the way. Again, Gohan doing well doesn't at all guarantee Piccolo will.
Gohan will very likely look to Piccolo for guidance
TheMathemagician wrote:
Lol at them not being true warriors. Vegeta doesn't need any hype because he's already an SSB, deuteragonist of the series. Piccolo doesn't have that luxury as he's really just been treated as a joke in Super.
Little comments by certain characters has nothing to do with Piccolo getting picked for the team. Did you actually think before this arc got announced that Piccolo would not particpiate in this tournament?
You've still yet to prove how Gohan doing well means Piccolo automatically will do well too.

Sure it does. Piccolo competing was never the problem and you know it. He's been treated poorly, him being in the roster doesn't automatically mean that's gonna change. It's the fact that he's been getting poor treatment that some fans are worried about Piccolo's performance in this tournament.
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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:34 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:
The gr wrote: :lol: more like jiren stomps Gohan and piccolo,I don't see them even touching him, either#17, vegeta or goku defeat him or u7 losses completely and jiren will use the super DB to restore everything because he probably grow fond of goku
If it ends up in a 1v1 with Goku and Jiren, chances are Goku will lose, but if turns out to be a team effort of Goku with someone like say Vegeta,17 or Gohan then I can see them beating him, wont be surprising if someone else wins tho, like say Roshi for laughs :lol:
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:06 pm

TheMathemagician wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheMathemagician wrote: So Toriyama won't do it because it's the next "natural" thing for Piccolo? More like he won't do it cause he really doesn't seem to care at the moment.

That would be implying Gohan is going entirely into this match with Piccolo and will need Piccolo every step of the way. Again, Gohan doing well doesn't at all guarantee Piccolo will.
Gohan will very likely look to Piccolo for guidance
TheMathemagician wrote:
Lol at them not being true warriors. Vegeta doesn't need any hype because he's already an SSB, deuteragonist of the series. Piccolo doesn't have that luxury as he's really just been treated as a joke in Super.
Little comments by certain characters has nothing to do with Piccolo getting picked for the team. Did you actually think before this arc got announced that Piccolo would not particpiate in this tournament?
You've still yet to prove how Gohan doing well means Piccolo automatically will do well too.

Sure it does. Piccolo competing was never the problem and you know it. He's been treated poorly, him being in the roster doesn't automatically mean that's gonna change. It's the fact that he's been getting poor treatment that some fans are worried about Piccolo's performance in this tournament.
The fans do that to themselves by all of them keep saying he is going to do bad. They are creating their own negative hype.

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Post by Araki » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:41 pm

kinisking wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:People understate Piccolo's role in the Buu arc. Sure he wasn't necessarily a prominent fighter, but he was still a prominent character who was vital and respected. In Super he's gone to Yamcha tier of being treated like garbage.
Piccolo was disrespected by Goten and Trunks the entire arc. His first attempt at fighting got him turnt to stone in an instant. The Champa arc treated him better.
I agree. Imagine if it was in Super that Piccolo got paired with Kuririn while jobbing for Dabura.
The best we can say about him in the Buu arc is that he is an ok volleyball player.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:26 pm

kinisking wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:People understate Piccolo's role in the Buu arc. Sure he wasn't necessarily a prominent fighter, but he was still a prominent character who was vital and respected. In Super he's gone to Yamcha tier of being treated like garbage.
Piccolo was disrespected by Goten and Trunks the entire arc.
So he got some sass from a couple of bratty kids? So what? In Super Goku's a straight up ass to him and he's become Vegeta's bitch which is just entirely out of character.
His first attempt at fighting got him turned to stone in an instant.
I already said he isn't a prominent fighter but a prominent character.
The Champa arc treated him better.
That's just false.

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Post by Beyond » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:56 pm

Piccolo getting shade. It seems people don't understand why Piccolo has been in the top 5 most popular characters for a while. I got to educate you guys. Piccolo gets hyped and doesn't do shit. That's true, but it doesn't matter. People liked Piccolo in the saiyan saga because he showed character growth, and that made him more than just a stoic asshole. Goku vs Piccolo was one of the best fights in dragon ball. Top 5 for a lot of people. He lost that fight, but if he won the series would be over, so what did you expect? It was sill probably the best fight Toriyama drew tbh, and it was great in the anime to. Piccolo was literally brought into the namek saga just to have a fanservice fight with Frieza. There was no way in hell Toriyama could have let Piccolo beat Frieza, but Toriyama liked Piccolo so much he gave him a BS powerup and fight just because he could. In a series where people who fight are the ones who matter most that's a big deal.

Piccolo arguably got 150x stronger in the android arc just cause Toriyama still wanted him to keep up a bit. He couldn't kill 20 because then the androids don't happen and the plot ends. Come on guys it's not that hard. The fight with 17 was pretty cool as well. I don't understand this weird mentally that you got to win fight and do super important stuff to be cool comes from.

Piccolo in buu arc was leagues better than his role in super. The boys didn't take him serious, but the story never says they are in the right to do that. Guess what? Buutenks happens because they don't listen to piccolo. Not listening to Piccolo got Gohan, Goten, and Trunks killed. They died for that shit. Piccolo is the voice of reason in that arc. His failing are because of crazy shit completely outside of his power, but his efforts were noble. I can't see how buu arc piccolo could be worse than super Piccolo who got foddered off by some loser that's weaker than a non trained gohan, who should be weaker than namek frieza because the arc before it said that the base saiyans were weaker than Frieza. At least getting spit on by dabura is something that he couldn't have known would turn him into stone. Getting wrecked by some loser you've been stronger than for over half decade is that next level writing. Piccolo didn't do cool stuff in the buu arc, but I'd agrue he was even lamer in super. He's almost W aganist Frost get negated by him being Vegeta's bitch in the next scene. Every ass whooping Piccolo got in Z combined made him look like less of a bitch than that one Vegeta scene. Where I am now People would kill you for that level of disrespect (The hood is no place to live.)

Piccolo probably won't be much this arc, but the shade in these post. I gotta do my boy right and defend him.

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