"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by The gr » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:23 pm

Chuquita wrote:So Yamcha might still have a chance? :lol:

To be serious, I'm still not big on Kamesennin being on the team, so I'd be fine with a Yamcha substitution.
There hyping up, Yamcha, toyotaro draw a pic for him,a spin-off manga for him, and is likely they will either replace buu or roshi and Maybe piccolo :P
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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:26 pm

BTW that article didnt mention if the ToP was going to be the last arc, if it was, they would be hyping it like crazy.

I'm also putting Piccolo in the same group as Tenshinhan and Roshi, in being kicked out of the team, because Piccolo also didnt do anything in the OP/ED outside of helping Gohan regain Mystic form.

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Post by The gr » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:29 pm

Buu will be replaced by Yamcha, because Buu will lose his skinny form and sleep before the torunament start, and out of Nowhere in the sky Yamcha appear with the ssj3 Kai theme, and the trio of u9 will views him as a god, because toriyama loves to make jokes and because of Buu didn't have a recruitment episode like the others
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:33 pm

It's always great to have confirmation Toriyama still sends outlines. God Bless him!
Also, a hint that the ten characters from the main visual might not actually end up being the final team...?
Gohan has another conference!

On a serious note, I'm not fan of this. Doesn't matter who may get replaced, it's just like what Champa arc did with Buu. Misleading advertising.
Those 10 are in the promo art, teaser and Opening.

I seriously hope they don't bring Monaka or Satan to this.
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Post by MisteryOne » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:38 pm

Go Yamcha go! :lol:
FortuneSSJ wrote:-Lack of SSJ Black / Toei changing Toriyama's designs-

Toei most likely didn't add SSJ Black because they thought it was pointless. And they are right, even though I don't agree with them ignoring Toriyama's notes.
Black was already confirmed to get stronger after each fight. That's all they need to know to not bother with it, since SSR was coming soon.
I doubt they didn't give him SSJ because they thought people would mistake him with the real Goku. Different clothes are more than enough to distinguish them.

Same reason that giving blue hair to FT Trunks to distinguish him from kid Trunks is a ridiculous thought. Anyone can tell the difference.
They didn't change it most likely because they wanted to please Toriyama and he drew him like that. Purple FT Trunks is still a thing everywhere else.

Ignoring Toriyama's note about SSJ Black that doesn't affect the plot at all is nothing compared to completely change a character design. They won't do that.

If that female Saiyan character looks like that, that's how she is gonna be in the anime.

We don't know if they are two different female characters and if her eyes will remember Broly LSSJ when transformed.
It's not unusual when Saiyans unlock a new SSJ form their eyes get white for a moment until they recover their iris after.

Just happened again when FT Trunks unlocked SS Ikari.

Toei showing her like that it's a easy way to make everyone talk about it. They are not as stupid as some people make them out to be.

As e Goku/Vegeta revert to their old outfits its most likely because they aren't living with Whis anymore. The manga did the same thing.
Its not really pointless trough. Having Black only use Rosé, along with some information from Saikyo Jump iirc made the fandom think that Rosé was Black's equivalent of the normal Super Saiyan form. Which annoyed me and some other people, since the guy was always talking about how he had mastered the full extent of Goku's power yet he never went SSR2 or SSR3.

Now, I'm not saying SS was crucial and a key for the plot pf the arc itself, but there was no point on ignoring it when you are going to make Black face Vegeta Blue without using Rosé anyway. Black showed to be at Vegeta's level at the start of ep56 yet he also went Rosé later. I'm not speaking about the power level problem, but about other things. Black going SS, or even SS2, would have made way more sense from a narrative standpoint that just tanking Vegeta without transforming (which definetly doesn't have the same dramatic effect) and unlocking Rosé, the equivalent to SSB, after fighting with Goku SS2 for some minutes. If it were that easy to unlock all of Goku's power, without even fighting any type of saiyan at his fullest or without getting zenkais (because in the anime Black didn't have Zenkais at all, having instead random and broken power ups that Goku never had) he could just travelled to another line and fight a Goku before going back to the future. In the manga Black at least worked alongside Zamasu to slowly unlock Goku's power and later unlocked Rosé after fighting Vegeta, while in the anime he already have Rosé before fighting Vegeta.

The manga didn't use the transformations perfectly as well, since Black being at Blue level at SS made Rosé look quite pointless as well, but it was definetly not as bad as presented in the anime. In both cases however, it was like «Oh, ok, you were winning without transforming anyway and is not like you are going to face both Blues at the same time now that Vegeta is out». But at least the manga bothered explaining why it's pink, while in the anime everyone had to make guesses about why his hair was pink instead of yellow and why he never transformed higher. Rosé is definetly the big deal and it looks way better than SS, but leaving it as just the only transformation, without any type of mention to the yellow form at all was a mistake.


Anyway, about the female saiyan design, I definetly don't see why the would want to change it. If they are indeed the same saiyan, in this case Brolyne/Brolina/Female Broli or however you call her, that will probably be some type of different outfit, either from a flashback (Yes please, give us backstories, give us lore, give us Salad damn it) or from another recluitment episode (I'm bored about them, but it doesn't matter as long as I can see Salad!). As you are saying, they kept Mirai Trunks air colour, o I oubt they would changw this, and I really want to believe the female LSS thing was Toriyama being the troll he is and not another Toei thing that tries to appeals to fans by making callbacks. I will definelty love if we are getting one more saiyan trough, even if I would prefer it it was the King.
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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:44 pm

The gr wrote:Buu will be replaced by Yamcha, because Buu will lose his skinny form and sleep before the torunament start, and out of Nowhere in the sky Yamcha appear with the ssj3 Kai theme, and the trio of u9 will views him as a god, because toriyama loves to make jokes and because of Buu didn't have a recruitment episode like the others
This could be even better than the baseball episode.

Yamcha finally reaching God-Status after all the humilliations he suffered throughout the series.

Buu already had his time to shine and with the Ed showing him sleeping, yes he has the highest chance of missing out the tournament again.

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Post by sintzu » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:46 pm

perucho1990 wrote:BTW that article didnt mention if the ToP was going to be the last arc, if it was, they would be hyping it like crazy.
I think it's safe to say we'll get at least 2 more after this, one with a new villain and the other being a torunament between the winner of this one and the other 4 universes.

Even that doesn't seem like enough to cover everything that's been set up and hinted at. They've brought up Uub twice now so they're probably going to do something with him. there's hints about Whis' father being the one pulling the strings from behind Zeno and the fact that the angles of the universes that were destroyed still being alive.

We more than likely have a lot to look forward to from Toriyama and I can't wait.
FortuneSSJ wrote:It's always great to have confirmation Toriyama still sends outlines. God Bless him!

Doesn't matter who may get replaced, it's just like what Champa arc did with Buu. Misleading advertising.
Hopefully he'll stay on for as long as possible. everything he's been doing and what he's buliding up to seem very interesting.

I wouldn't mind for some change but not if it ends up being like the Champa arc where everyone gets thrown out and it's just Goku and Vegeta doing everything. The Champa arc for example could've kept Goku and Vegeta's screen time exactly the same while also giving Piccolo and Buu their time to shine.
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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:49 pm

Didnt Beerus tell Whis that he comes from a different place? Maybe its a hint that there is a World of Angels? :think:

It would make sense because if there was a world of Demons, there should also be a World of Angels.

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Post by Kanassa » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:00 pm

I wonder, maybe instead of replacing a member before the tournament, during the Battle Royal there will be some strange loop hole in the rules that allows Universe 7 to switch a wounded member of their team with someone else.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by pacz360 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:00 pm

They better not take buu outta this if anyone let it be roshi it'll be stupid to pull the same shit twice like in the champa arc

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Post by pacz360 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:01 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
The gr wrote:Buu will be replaced by Yamcha, because Buu will lose his skinny form and sleep before the torunament start, and out of Nowhere in the sky Yamcha appear with the ssj3 Kai theme, and the trio of u9 will views him as a god, because toriyama loves to make jokes and because of Buu didn't have a recruitment episode like the others
This could be even better than the baseball episode.

Yamcha finally reaching God-Status after all the humilliations he suffered throughout the series.

Buu already had his time to shine and with the Ed showing him sleeping, yes he has the highest chance of missing out the tournament again.
Fuck no! They better not pull this shit again.

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Post by pacz360 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:03 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:It's always great to have confirmation Toriyama still sends outlines. God Bless him!
Also, a hint that the ten characters from the main visual might not actually end up being the final team...?
Gohan has another conference!

On a serious note, I'm not fan of this. Doesn't matter who may get replaced, it's just like what Champa arc did with Buu. Misleading advertising.
Those 10 are in the promo art, teaser and Opening.

I seriously hope they don't bring Monaka or Satan to this.
Monaka won't be in it given they ruled him out
Satan won't particpate given whats at stake here.

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Post by sintzu » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:03 pm

pacz360 wrote:They better not take buu outta this if anyone let it be roshi it'll be stupid to pull the same shit twice like in the champa arc
Taking anyone out won't be as bad as taking Gohan out at the last minute.

If that happens I won't mind betting on Toriyama reading these sites and doing it to get a laugh out of his fans' reaction. :lol:
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Post by The gr » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:04 pm

pacz360 wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:
The gr wrote:Buu will be replaced by Yamcha, because Buu will lose his skinny form and sleep before the torunament start, and out of Nowhere in the sky Yamcha appear with the ssj3 Kai theme, and the trio of u9 will views him as a god, because toriyama loves to make jokes and because of Buu didn't have a recruitment episode like the others
This could be even better than the baseball episode.

Yamcha finally reaching God-Status after all the humilliations he suffered throughout the series.

Buu already had his time to shine and with the Ed showing him sleeping, yes he has the highest chance of missing out the tournament again.
Fuck no! They better not pull this shit again.
sorry mate but there gonna troll us again
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FortuneSSJ wrote:It's always great to have confirmation Toriyama still sends outlines. God Bless him!
Also, a hint that the ten characters from the main visual might not actually end up being the final team...?
Gohan has another conference!

On a serious note, I'm not fan of this. Doesn't matter who may get replaced, it's just like what Champa arc did with Buu. Misleading advertising.
Those 10 are in the promo art, teaser and Opening.

I seriously hope they don't bring Monaka or Satan to this.
Monaka won't be in it given they ruled him out
Satan won't particpate given whats at stake here.
is obvious,is Yamcha or Gotenks or someone else :think:
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Post by Kanassa » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:06 pm

The gr wrote:is Yamcha or Gotenks or someone else :think:
The only fighters that are available to replace somone on the team outside of a new character:
Yamcha
Goten
Trunks
Choitzu
Jaco
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by pacz360 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:13 pm

The gr wrote:
pacz360 wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:
This could be even better than the baseball episode.

Yamcha finally reaching God-Status after all the humilliations he suffered throughout the series.

Buu already had his time to shine and with the Ed showing him sleeping, yes he has the highest chance of missing out the tournament again.
Fuck no! They better not pull this shit again.
sorry mate but there gonna troll us again
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FortuneSSJ wrote:It's always great to have confirmation Toriyama still sends outlines. God Bless him!


Gohan has another conference!

On a serious note, I'm not fan of this. Doesn't matter who may get replaced, it's just like what Champa arc did with Buu. Misleading advertising.
Those 10 are in the promo art, teaser and Opening.

I seriously hope they don't bring Monaka or Satan to this.
Monaka won't be in it given they ruled him out
Satan won't particpate given whats at stake here.
is obvious,is Yamcha or Gotenks or someone else :think:
They won't do it
They already hyped all ten member's in the tournament in the openings,endings,posters etc

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Post by pacz360 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:14 pm

sintzu wrote:
pacz360 wrote:They better not take buu outta this if anyone let it be roshi it'll be stupid to pull the same shit twice like in the champa arc
Taking anyone out won't be as bad as taking Gohan out at the last minute.

If that happens I won't mind betting on Toriyama reading these sites and doing it to get a laugh out of his fans' reaction. :lol:
Where in that article even hints this shit?

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Post by Beyond » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:15 pm

Taking anyone out is basically a middle finger to that fanbase, and I can't say I wish it on any of them. Piccolo, unfortunately, makes the most sense getting kicked out. Gohan being touted at the strategist makes more sense if Piccolo isn't there. Piccolo has only appeared to help Gohan and nothing else. Vegeta is actually another person who could get kicked out tbh. He ain't been hyped for anything. The only 4 who can't be kicked in my mind are Goku, Gohan, Krillin, and 17. Because if any of those four get kicked out that's not just bad writing, it's also disrespectful or at least distasteful.

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Post by kinisking » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:16 pm

No one's being replaced , they're being facetious guys. Everyone was shown on episode 77, the ending and the opening. If they change one of the team members, then I'll make my profile picture Freeza one punching Gohan.

Also, I think it's interesting that the producer points out that krillin and Roshi will do fine despite their power. No comment on Tien. Does this mean he really is stronger than Krillin or that he's going to job like his first name is Steve ?
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Post by pacz360 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:19 pm

Beyond wrote:Taking anyone out is basically a middle finger to that fanbase, and I can't say I wish it on any of them. Piccolo, unfortunately, makes the most sense getting kicked out. Gohan being touted at the strategist makes more sense if Piccolo isn't there. Piccolo has only appeared to help Gohan and nothing else. Vegeta is actually another person who could get kicked out tbh. He ain't been hyped for anything. The only 4 who can't be kicked in my mind are Goku, Gohan, Krillin, and 17. Because if any of those four get kicked out that's not just bad writing, it's also disrespectful or at least distasteful.
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