"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Xeogran]

Wow, compared to the previous ones, this recent trailer was pretty bad. I mean, characters were floating down without any actual body part moving most of the time. Especially when Hatchiyack kicked Beat, it was just so rigid >_>

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Yeah, the content is pretty good this time around too, but the actual animation is pretty horrible. So are some of the glaring errors, like Slug's arms being colored green instead of purple like his jumpsuit should be.

[EveBlaze31]

Wow, compared to the previous ones, this recent trailer was pretty bad. I mean, characters were floating down without any actual body part moving most of the time. Especially when Hatchiyack kicked Beat, it was just so rigid >_>

I'm pretty sure Hatchiyack didn't kick Beat after watching that it looked more like a counterattack against Bojack and Hatchiyack's position makes it look like a kick.

[DNA]

These Hakaio have got to be the laziest forms ever. And the fact that their now extending it to henchmen scares me. They can potentially give this to freaking everyone and call it a new form. All it is is removing the pupils and giving them an M on the forehead. At least the other six are welcome and interesting additions.

[Hellspawn28]

as we see with the Tullece taking over Piccolo example in the video.

Does that mean we have Majin Piccolo now? I didn't see the "M" on his head in the video though.

[goku the krump dancer]

Why do they continue to put red electricity on SSJ2 cards?

[JeffJarrett]

I don't see any Piccolo in the trailer.

[DNA]

as we see with the Tullece taking over Piccolo example in the video.

Does that mean we have Majin Piccolo now? I didn't see the "M" on his head in the video though.

I suppose? We have some form of possessed Piccolo, for what it's worth. He loses his pupils but does not get the M.

Anyway, new cards have been added to my database, yadda yadda. Looking at them next to each other it's interesting to see how much Super Saiyan 2 Vegetto and Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta look alike.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Anyway, new cards have been added to my database, yadda yadda.

Notes and such...

Why use "Legendary Super Saiyan 3" on Broli when you try to be as accurate as possible for everyone else and that's not the term used for him?

Seeing how it's got the giant transformation mechanic, Qi Xing Long's card can double as his original form too. Both are on the card.

Liu Xing Long's giant form is officially "Super Liu Xing Long". So it should probably be tossed on thare as "Super" instead of "Giant".

You may want to alter Qi Xing Long's form names. Toyble has yet to introduce actual combatants or alternate forms that haven't gone on to appear in the game at some point in time. So I get the feeling that Liang Xing Long's "Super" transformation from Victory Mission will probably be used as a boss in the game sometime soon. Maybe this set?

You have a spot for Shadow Goku, so I'd probably go a head and add in Slug and Garlic Junior's "Hakaio" henchmen and just change the name later if they end up not being the same thing.

I'm kinda torn on wanting to ask you to swtich Tobi's card. You're using the one that represent his game model, but we have one with his official colors. I kinda think using that would fit better, especially since we have the PtEtSS card designs for Hatchihyack and Raichi, even though their game models don't match...

[DNA]

Why use "Legendary Super Saiyan 3" on Broli when you try to be as accurate as possible for everyone else and that's not the term used for him?

I've stopped striving to use the terminology the game uses, most of them still match, but it's not something set on stone for me any more. No matter what all the other sources say, for me (and apparently others) that's what that form clearly is, it's a mix of both, it's clearly not a normal Super Saiyan 3, no matter how much they say it is.

Seeing how it's got the giant transformation mechanic, Qi Xing Long's card can double as his original form too. Both are on the card.

Liu Xing Long's giant form is officially "Super Liu Xing Long". So it should probably be tossed on thare as "Super" instead of "Giant".

You may want to alter Qi Xing Long's form names. Toyble has yet to introduce actual combatants or alternate forms that haven't gone on to appear in the game at some point in time. So I get the feeling that Liang Xing Long's "Super" transformation from Victory Mission will probably be used as a boss in the game sometime soon. Maybe this set?

I've considered all of this, you might have noticed that I've changed a few things (that whole business with Yamcha, Ten Shin-Han and Jiaozi), I left Qi Xing Long's form names as place holders since I have no clue what they will be called and didn't feel like writing a lot for something that hasn't been properly revealed yet, but sure, I'll try an adapt. As for it's card, again, considered it but didn't want to repeat the card but... Sure, why not, I'll use it for now.
As for Liu Xing Long, will be done, I had no clue what they called it. And Liang Xing Long, I'll wait until we have some confirmation that he is indeed in the game, even though I'm sure it will at some point.

You have a spot for Shadow Goku, so I'd probably go a head and add in Slug and Garlic Junior's "Hakaio" henchmen and just change the name later if they end up not being the same thing.

Again, considered it, but I'll hold of on that for the time being, there's way too many of them. Like you said, there's already a ton of empty spots as it is, I saved the ones for the cards that were coming, mostly, but these..? I don't know... I'll see how I feel.

I'm kinda torn on wanting to ask you to swtich Tobi's card. You're using the one that represent his game model, but we have one with his official colors. I kinda think using that would fit better, especially since we have the PtEtSS card designs for Hatchihyack and Raichi, even though their game models don't match...

I'll chuck 'em both in like I did for Yamcha and etc., I'll do the same for Kyui, which has the card with the wrong colours. I was trying to use the very first card for each character, but sometimes that didn't work, sometimes the card didn't show much of the character or something.

If you want me to change more cards in order for them to be better viewable, please do suggest and I will consider and probably change them. Especially Coola Core.

EDIT
Made some changes in the organization, some are bound to be controversial but I'm happy with them, namely with Majin Buu. I hope you won't mind much.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

EDIT
Made some changes in the organization, some are bound to be controversial but I'm happy with them, namely with Majin Buu. I hope you won't mind much.

Yeah, I don't really like that you're making Pure Evil Boo the base form of Evil Buu on the list, since he doesn't go back to that form after they remove Innocent Buu from him, unlike with every other absorption. But again, it's your list.

Moving on though, I discovered a mediocre quality confirmation of Hakaio Broli (Super Saiyan 3) and Majin Buu: Pure (Babidi Absorbed) after waking up to use the bathroom.




...now back to bed. Hopefully we'll have better leaks when I wake up (the usual website is under renovation though) and maybe even some Coro Coro leaks for Pokemon (though that is unlikely this early on and off topic).

[KentalSSJ6]

I find Buubadi to be rather interesting.

The green haired hulk of DBZ? Not so much.

[DarkPrince_92]

Buu and Babidi? That's a lethal combination.

[DNA]

Yeah, I don't really like that you're making Pure Evil Boo the base form of Evil Buu on the list, since he doesn't go back to that form after they remove Innocent Buu from him, unlike with every other absorption. But again, it's your list.

I guess you are right but I was counting more "going up" than "going down" if you know what I mean. It suddenly just hit me that we really only have 2 main Buu lines, the pure one and the evil one... Again, I do apologize if it kind of annoys people who are a bit OCD (not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just OCD in a different way), it makes sense to me and it would annoy me if I wouldn't do it. It's not like I'm doing things to provoke others, I'm trying to do them in a more creative and hopefully interestingly organized way.

Moving on though, I discovered a mediocre quality confirmation of Hakaio Broli (Super Saiyan 3) and Majin Buu: Pure (Babidi Absorbed) after waking up to use the bathroom.

Babidi absorbed Buu looks very nice. It's creative.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Don't worry, I can understand the Buu logic and even agree with it to some extent,...just not in regards to the game. lol

For me, it's just a matter of trying to maintain my sanity by using their already established organization system. if I start making exceptions and switching one, I'm going to start switching more of them and eventually it won't resemble their list at all.

[DNA]

Yeah, I get that. The main focus of this grid system is to show who and what is in the game, not exactly how the developers chose to organize and divide them. Some of their divisions make no sense at all.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

With these, the card download link in my signature is fully updated for JM5.

I will warn you that I'm using a different computer for the time being, so there is a possibility that I may have missed some promo cards or something that I had in the rar on the other computer, but hadn't uploaded to Dropbox or something. I don't think I did, but if you notice anything missing, let me know.

Other than that, I can't turn it into a proper wallpaper like usual on this computer, but here's the new background for JM5. You may need to hard refresh in order for it to show up if you visit the Heroes site a lot and they have the image cached.

Spoiler:

I'll be keeping an eye out for player video uploads for the next couple nights in order to see if there are any other hidden Hakaio or other characters within the game's missions. Maybe we'll get confirmation on if Hirudegarn has the symbol or not...

EDIT 1:

Spoiler:

Someone is already playing with Hakaio Broli. He has a "dark" aura, and it's nice that they added veins to his game model too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92pQ1lKVFuQ

Not much interesting, but they are already battling Super Qi XIng Long (apparently they are actually calling him Super Qi Xing Long, kinda confusing things with the new Super Liu Xing Long and the previous Super Yi Xing Long) as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojkvlmSONCs

EDIT 2:

Spoiler:

Okay, so we have our first video of Hakaio Garlic Junior and his henchmen, and it's kinda interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Ut0trlK3w

Hakaio Enslavements
--Character gains the title "Hakaio" before their name.
--Character gains the trademark M stamped somewhere on his being. (Oddly, on the helmet for Slug...)
--Characters have veins popping out in the artwork, though only some have it in-game: (Broli, Bojack, Hatchihyack and Garlic Jr.)
--WHITE eyes with no pupils, regardless of original eye color.
--Dark aura (black, purple, etc) with pink-ish lightning

Quasi-regular Enslavement(?)
--Character keep their original name and gains no extra title.
--Character gains the trademark M stamped somewhere on his being.
--No veins popping out on any of the characters.
--They retain their normal eyes.
--Dark aura (black, purple, etc) with no lightning. (The originals like Dabra, Pui Pui Yamu and Spopvitch don't have this.)

EDIT 3

Spoiler:

Slug's team is up too, but it's the same situation as with Garlic Junior. Slug doesn't have veins though, but I don't know if he's supposed to have them or not here. Would you be able to see them through his jumpsuit?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TE-lBVY_FE

Super/Merger 13 is a different story. He's clearly not clothed on his chest and has veins on blue skin in the artwork, but still doesn't have them for the game model despite having everything else Broli and Garlic Junior have as a Hakaio (including the white eyes, even though his were originally yellow).: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnH-CGbFKu4

Kinda starting to wonder if Broli is the only special vein case here...

EDIT 4

Spoiler:

Looks iike Bojack has had his team enslaved too. Also, seems like Bojack got his in-game veins. (Ugh, consistency.): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFr_v15kFac

EDIT 5

Spoiler:

Bebi Janenba this time. Nothing interesting other than white eyes and no apparent veins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LvdWs2Q0Hs

EDIT 6

Spoiler:

Hakaio Hirudegarn stomps his way into battle! He does indeed have white eyes and a big ol' M right on his forehead, and no veins (though I suppose this could be kinda obvious why for him, I guess): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6jH1htnhSM

SS3 Hakaioji Vegeta is up along with Dabra, Pui Pui and Yamu, but there isn't anything interesting about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFn8rDFZ3iQ

EDIT 7

Spoiler:

Hakaio Hatchihyack (UGH, with veins) is accompanied by an enslaved Dr. Raichi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgd848IoNkY

EDIT 8

Spoiler:

Defeat the "Super Majin Buu". Ha. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh3T_Ng_av8

EDIT 9

Spoiler:

Pure Buu and Babidi on the same team? Gosh, I wonder what's going to happen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvqMwG4S_RQ

EDIT 10

Spoiler:

We finish out the important part of the cycle with a clear video of Super Qi Xing Long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynJ5tjWtTkA

Oh, plus Cyborg Tao Pai Pai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DS3agG5iAg

EDIT 11

Spoiler:

Hakao Garlic Junior using the new Babidi enslavement Card Action Ability. Kinda cool, but no, they don't gain the M on them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQIlHUMj6UI

Characters on the mission roulette so far in videos:

Spoiler:

--Yamu & Spopovitch
--Hakaio Garlic Junior, Nikki (Enslaved), Sansho (Enslaved) & Ginger (Enslaved)
--Hakaio Slug, Dorodabo (Enslaved), Angila (Enslaved), Medamatcha (Enslaved), Zeeun (Enslaved)
--Hakaio Merged 13
--Hakaio Bojack, Zangya (Enslaved), Bujin (Enslaved), Bido (Enslaved), Gokua (Enslaved)
--Hakaio Bebi Janenba
--Hakaio Hatchihyack, Dr. Raichi (Enslaved)
--Hakaio Hirudegarn
--Hakaioji Vegeta (SS3), Dabra, Pui Pui, Yamu
--"Super" Majin Buu (Evil)
--Majin Buu (Pure), Babidi

[DNA]

Grid updated accordingly. I'm thinking that we may not get the "middle" form of Qi Xing Long... It's very odd they called him "Super".
As for the "enslaved" versions of guys... Erm... whatever. I don't even know what to make of this anymore. They are on a separate entry.
Gave a slot to Hakaio Hirudegarn as well, maybe he'll be summonable at some point.

[Li'l Lemmy]

I guess it makes sense that they would utilize Broli in this capacity, given that he's a "popular" enemy that DragonBall games have consistently shoehorned whenever possible (see "Attack of the Saiyans" for DS), but this thing where he's both Super Saiyan 3 and Majin is just... I mean, I'm not even sure. Great for Broli superfans, but it's probably the most stark example of fanfic aftertaste I've seen in an official product.

I dunno. It's weird. O_o


~Da Lemmy

[Gyt Kaliba]

I dunno Lemmy...that's pretty out there, but I'd argue that 'Majin Baby Janemba' is the ultimate 'fanfic' character in this as of now. All he needs is to be absorbed by Cell who is then absorbed by Boo, and the universe will truly implode.