I agree. My post was a response to the notion that we need "complex" villains, or that it automatically makes for a better story, rather than whether Zamasu himself fits that bill. I don't think he's particularly deep.capsulecorp wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 12:53 pm Well said, although I disagree that someone like Zamasu is actually morally ambiguous.
She/Her I hope there will be one more trailer finally showcasing the important part of this movie: grown-up Dende, Goten and Trunks. Hopefully confirming the appearances and that they also aged up Marron and Bra.PrinceVegetto wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:40 pmIt really is confounding that promotion for this movie is so minimal compared to Broly in 2018
... 2 weeks to go!
I've often wondered how DB would be handled if say the same collective of talent that turned the MCU into a well oiled blockbuster machine applied the same formula to it. Its not that the jobs are vacant its that they somehow refuse to give Iyoku and Hayashida their walking papers when they've constantly screwed up and have expended the goodwill Broly built upGrimlock wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 11:12 am Something's definitely wrong when their very own target audience starts to make notice.
I'd say the marketing of Movie 1 would have been perfect, if it weren't for them revealing Gogeta. But for Movie 2 they're doing the exact opposite, not only are they not revealing what is inside that thing (which is good and hopefully they keep it that way), but they are not revealing anything else either.
There isn't a single trailer where I can see grown-up Dende, Goten and Trunks. All we have are still images ever since they were revealed in the beginning of the year, we're now approaching the middle of the year.
Besides the need to find their own Kevin Feige, they also need to find someone capable of handling marketing as well. Two jobs are vacant.
I want everyone to ask themselves this honestly... are these the actions of a company that’s confident in their work? Toei lying about delays, nearly 0 PR and the fact people on here put on their superman cape to defend the Toei skullduggery is bafflingPrinceVegetto wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:40 pm It really is confounding that promotion for this movie is so minimal compared to Broly in 2018
... 2 weeks to go!
I'm hating when I'm pointing out all the BS excuses being made for this movie that dont make any sense?SSJgogeto wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:42 pm ^^^^^^
So you are the hater this time? Well, someone have to do the job but I don't envy you.
Killing the native population to resell the planet to others is their whole business model. Plus, they overheard a conversation with sensitive information, IIRC.SupremeKai25 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 1:59 pm I mean, is there a reason why he felt the need to taunt Granolah about his dead mother? Or kill his mother in the first place? He still comes off as generic pure evil to me, like Frieza.
It's wonderful that different people have different opinions but, to me, this sounds horrible. DB worked because it was a (more-or-less) singular vision, I'd rather not have it at all than have it turned into bland corporate soup.ObnoxiousNamek wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:19 pm Something's definitely wrong when their very own target audience starts to make notice.
I've often wondered how DB would be handled if say the same collective of talent that turned the MCU into a well oiled blockbuster machine applied the same formula to it. Its not that the jobs are vacant its that they somehow refuse to give Iyoku and Hayashida their walking papers when they've constantly screwed up and have expended the goodwill Broly built up
Isn't this what more cynical fans already accuse DB of being? In that regard, it'd be more a case of simply having more organization and direction for such folks.capsulecorp wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 8:45 pmIt's wonderful that different people have different opinions but, to me, this sounds horrible. DB worked because it was a (more-or-less) singular vision, I'd rather not have it at all than have it turned into bland corporate soup.ObnoxiousNamek wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:19 pm Something's definitely wrong when their very own target audience starts to make notice.
I've often wondered how DB would be handled if say the same collective of talent that turned the MCU into a well oiled blockbuster machine applied the same formula to it. Its not that the jobs are vacant its that they somehow refuse to give Iyoku and Hayashida their walking papers when they've constantly screwed up and have expended the goodwill Broly built up
To be fair, there are plenty of Marvel movies I've enjoyed, but even at their best they really have that vaguely soulless, "created by committee" feel.
I fully expect Videl to at the very least make a cameo. It would be very weird if she didn't.Grimlock wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 4:06 pm So again, in another attempt to bring the discussion back on topic:
I hope there will be one more trailer finally showcasing the important part of this movie: grown-up Dende, Goten and Trunks. Hopefully confirming the appearances and that they also aged up Marron and Bra.PrinceVegetto wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:40 pmIt really is confounding that promotion for this movie is so minimal compared to Broly in 2018
... 2 weeks to go!
I would very much like to see Videl too. It will be extremely odd if for some reason she isn't even in the movie.
) should showcase the new theme song and more of the supporting characters to hype the audience up because honestly we've gotten the same footage all year long and it's gotten BEYOND stale. Any logical person at Toei should be aware of this so I wonder what the holdup or "strategy" is?PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 9:26 pmIsn't this what more cynical fans already accuse DB of being? In that regard, it'd be more a case of simply having more organization and direction for such folks.capsulecorp wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 8:45 pmIt's wonderful that different people have different opinions but, to me, this sounds horrible. DB worked because it was a (more-or-less) singular vision, I'd rather not have it at all than have it turned into bland corporate soup.ObnoxiousNamek wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 7:19 pm Something's definitely wrong when their very own target audience starts to make notice.
I've often wondered how DB would be handled if say the same collective of talent that turned the MCU into a well oiled blockbuster machine applied the same formula to it. Its not that the jobs are vacant its that they somehow refuse to give Iyoku and Hayashida their walking papers when they've constantly screwed up and have expended the goodwill Broly built up
To be fair, there are plenty of Marvel movies I've enjoyed, but even at their best they really have that vaguely soulless, "created by committee" feel.
If you hadn't told me about it just now, I wouldn't have known that it's releasing in 2 weeks.Shorty GZ2 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:36 am 11 June release date and its 25 May right now, without much memorable promotion
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with ToyotaroAt his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
We still dont have any theme song and not to mention we still didnt get a proper well made trailer.SupremeKai25 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:09 am The marketing for this movie really, genuinely sucked.
