"DBZ: Battle of Z" (360/PS3/Vita) On-Going Discussion Thread

[MCDaveG]

Oh god, this stuff about Battle of Z and ZBR is so depressing

[TheGmGoken]

Oh god, this stuff about Battle of Z and ZBR is so depressing

Makes me shed a tear.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

I think part o the reason ZBR tends to get so much praise on here is because, one it looks like it plays better than anything Spike put on this gen; and two, because no one on here has actually played the thing. I wonder if people would sing the same tune if they actually got the chance to play it. Plus, I'm still of the opinion that porting a game with arcade in mind would just be a waste. Unlike Super DBZ it doesn't look like ZBR was built with deep combat in mind; there is also the fact that the home ports of Super DBZ didn't do as well as games built specifically for consoles(Budokai and the Sparking series). If it didn't work the first time, why would Namco-Bandai do it again?

[TheLegendaryGohan]

Why would it be depressing? I was just wondering...sorry if you didn't like my post I just thought we should have gotten an updated ZBR as it would make more sense for one thing and it looks better frankly. Nonetheless I am excited for Battle of Z and that new gameplay video made me so happy we are getting it

[TheLegendaryGohan]

I think part o the reason ZBR tends to get so much praise on here is because, one it looks like it plays better than anything Spike put on this gen; and two, because no one on here has actually played the thing. I wonder if people would sing the same tune if they actually got the chance to play it. Plus, I'm still of the opinion that porting a game with arcade in mind would just be a waste. Unlike Super DBZ it doesn't look like ZBR was built with deep combat in mind; there is also the fact that the home ports of Super DBZ didn't do as well as games built specifically for consoles(Budokai and the Sparking series). If it didn't work the first time, why would Namco-Bandai do it again?

Okay so I'm referring to graphics only at the moment and you are right about it looking like it plays really well. I just love the mechanics added like the unique player abilities (Broly grabbing people by the face and throwing them around or Frieza's sniping with deathbeam or Cell being able to self-destruct) you know things characters can do that others cannot. And the grabbing mechanic where you can hold someone down so that they can be shot and you move out of the way just in time.
But nevermind all that for a second. This game CLEARLY has ZBR in mind when it was made...like obviously. So what if you are right and ZBR's gameplay is not deep. Why can't we get a ZBR with deeper combat and more characters. I mean it would be easier right? Half the game is already done. Just thinking about it kind of makes me sad. Why can't we get an updated ZBR. Why are we treated like this, why must we settle for BoZ when we know we could have ZBR...I guess my main question is just why.
It would be easier
It looks better
Add a few characters
Add deeper combat (if it isn't deep enough like it looks to be)
And we have a grade A DBZ game. Something new and it looks nothing short of amazing. Why can't we have this were they just like oh no let's make a game from scratch based on ZBR, let's make sure it looks worse but plays the same. I don't get it help me out here.

[GogetaSSJ2]

I know this is a little off topic but: If Battle of Z comes out in 2014 (which might be the case) how does Namco Bandai fulfill their "One game per year" part of their contract? They'll be no dbz games in 2013 if BOZ gets released in 2014 instead.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Well of course we wouldn't get the game as it is on an arcade system, but an updated version...you know, a game instead of a quick arcade thing. It would have more characters and everything just like a real game would. It could have what 50 characters or whatever. Just ZBR on a console. Not this BoZ crap. If it can run on an arcade system I'm pretty sure it can run on a console and a rumor states that it is using a makeup similar to the PS3 (but it's probably just that, a rumor). Plus JStars has the same graphic style and that's running on consoles. Anyway yeah why...?

Well, ZBR has only has 2v2 (battle royal & team battles), while BoZ has 4v4 (battle royal & better team battles), giant bosses, more characters, and who knows what else. ZBR's graphics are also more plastic-looking. All in all, I prefer BoZ over ZBR.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

Well of course we wouldn't get the game as it is on an arcade system, but an updated version...you know, a game instead of a quick arcade thing. It would have more characters and everything just like a real game would. It could have what 50 characters or whatever. Just ZBR on a console. Not this BoZ crap. If it can run on an arcade system I'm pretty sure it can run on a console and a rumor states that it is using a makeup similar to the PS3 (but it's probably just that, a rumor). Plus JStars has the same graphic style and that's running on consoles. Anyway yeah why...?

Well, ZBR has only has 2v2 (battle royal & team battles), while BoZ has 4v4 (battle royal & better team battles), giant bosses, more characters, and who knows what else. ZBR's graphics are also more plastic-looking. All in all, I prefer BoZ over ZBR.

Dude. Again I said an updated ZBR okay? What I mean by this is take Zenkai Battle Royale and improve upon what they already have, adding on the newer things in BoZ taking away the arcade feel of it. Meaning everything BoZ has but just looking like ZBR with some added ZBR mechanics. So no more "well [insert random thing BoZ has over ZBR here]"
Updated ZBR=everything BoZ has which really isn't much mind you.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But BoZ is an updated ZBR.

[VegettoEX]

But BoZ is an updated ZBR.

I think there's a distinction to be made.

Battle of Z is clearly in the same vein as Zenkai Battle Royale (multiplayer battles, free-ish range flight, etc.), but it's also clearly not just a game built on the same exact engine as Zenkai Battle Royale.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

But BoZ is an updated ZBR.

Since when? And I don't think you're getting it. Why could we not get the same character models, the same textures, animations, effects, and detailing? My point is why did they not just take Zenkai Battle Royale, add more characters, add more online features and call it a night? Why would they start from nothing, copy ZBR obviously, mess up the graphic style and story in order to force a new feature and call it a night?
That's what I'm not understanding. So please stop responding with a "non-answer." BoZ is a downgraded ZBR capable of playing with more people in my opinion but it still is a variation of the game so I am still excited for it. I just think it isn't fair that we don't get ZBR and instead we are supposed to accept BoZ. Do you get it now.........?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

ZBR only has signature moves that BoZ doesn't have (at least as far as we know). BoZ however, has much more things than ZBR. The graphics being superior is your opinion.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

I'm not making a post about which one has more crap so please stop with that it's getting really annoying. I'm not saying ZBR has more stuff, I'm saying why did we not get ZBR and work on that and add everything from BoZ to the already created ZBR instead of half-assing it and making BoZ based off of ZBR. My point is that if they took ZBR and worked on it to make a full game like BoZ is and add every newer feature to ZBR.
Battle Royale would be a superior game if they had just used it as a base and worked from there. It looks a hell of a lot better and it seriously won me over by those unique character styles. And I'm pretty sure it has more than just "signature moves" but I'm not here to go back and forth with you about which you think looks better. To me it just seems that ZBR is far superior in every way and Battle of Z is nothing more than an imitation. If ZBR was perfected to being a full game then we could compare them but it hasn't been and for no reason at that. I just want to know the reason for this so can anyone help me out? With an answer and not just a guy pointlessly defending BoZ...

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Can someone give some info about the ZBR engine? Does every character play differently, like in Super DBZ?

[Big Momma]

Can someone give some info about the ZBR engine? Does every character play differently, like in Super DBZ?

That's something we aren't sure of, yet.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

I know this is a little off topic but: If Battle of Z comes out in 2014 (which might be the case) how does Namco Bandai fulfill their "One game per year" part of their contract? They'll be no dbz games in 2013 if BOZ gets released in 2014 instead.

It's slated for winter which could mean Holidays or early '14. Unless an official release date has been announced, I haven't really kept up on boz.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

I know this is a little off topic but: If Battle of Z comes out in 2014 (which might be the case) how does Namco Bandai fulfill their "One game per year" part of their contract? They'll be no dbz games in 2013 if BOZ gets released in 2014 instead.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes but it's obvious their current model of one game a year wasn't working anymore. It's possible NB and the developers for Battle of Z worked out a deal with Shuisha to try something new and boost sales. They might have made an exception, for them to release early 2014 or something. Then there is also V-Jump versus which has DBZ characters so that might have an effect on something; again though I don't know the full details.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

Can someone give some info about the ZBR engine? Does every character play differently, like in Super DBZ?

Yeah we don't know about the engine of the game, we just know by gameplay that characters' abilities/fighting techniques affect the way that you use them. Again still my favorite Broly will grab you by the face and slam you into other people or use you as a shield whereas Goku would not because that's not his fighting style.

[Kaboom]

Since nobody's mentioned it yet, breaking news...

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... -of-z-game

Goku's getting one of Naruto's recent outfits as an alternate costume in Battle of Z, available to people in Japan who buy the game during its first run. No word on if the bonus will be available in the West yet, but didn't we get the similar Goku outfit for Naruto in Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 earlier this year?

[dbzfan7]

Since nobody's mentioned it yet, breaking news...

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... -of-z-game

Goku's getting one of Naruto's recent outfits as an alternate costume in Battle of Z, available to people in Japan who buy the game during its first run. No word on if the bonus will be available in the West yet, but didn't we get the similar Goku outfit for Naruto in Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 earlier this year?

What a waste of a costume.