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Post by Innagadadavida » Wed May 06, 2009 8:41 pm

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DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Why would Funi dub DBK?
To redeem themselves in the "dubbing DBZ accurately" department.
But most dub fans are content with their current dub, and most people who aren't are content with the Japanese version. I don't think there's enough of a demand for it.
I'd like it if only to see how the haters will find a way to continue their hate after getting what they've been complaining for.

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Post by DemonRin » Wed May 06, 2009 8:50 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
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SSj Kaboom wrote: To redeem themselves in the "dubbing DBZ accurately" department.
But most dub fans are content with their current dub, and most people who aren't are content with the Japanese version. I don't think there's enough of a demand for it.
I'd like it if only to see how the haters will find a way to continue their hate after getting what they've been complaining for.
I would LOVE a Quality Dub.

FUNimation has grown as a company since then, if they did the same level job as they are doing on One Piece, a Kai dub could be amazing.
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Post by NeptuneKai » Wed May 06, 2009 8:51 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Taku128 wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote: To redeem themselves in the "dubbing DBZ accurately" department.
But most dub fans are content with their current dub, and most people who aren't are content with the Japanese version. I don't think there's enough of a demand for it.
I'd like it if only to see how the haters will find a way to continue their hate after getting what they've been complaining for.
I really dislike being labeled as a "complaining hater" for wanting a proper dub of the series. All I want is dubbed Buu saga script accuracy for the Freeza and Cell sagas along with the correct names and terminology. I don't really think that is out of the question. (Maybe a small voice cast change as well.)
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Post by DemonRin » Wed May 06, 2009 8:55 pm

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Taku128 wrote:But most dub fans are content with their current dub, and most people who aren't are content with the Japanese version. I don't think there's enough of a demand for it.
I'd like it if only to see how the haters will find a way to continue their hate after getting what they've been complaining for.
I really dislike being labeled as a "complaining hater" for wanting a proper dub of the series. All I want is Buu saga script accuracy for the Freeza and Cell sagas along with the correct names and terminology. I don't really think that is out of the question. (Maybe a small voice cast change as well.)
Most of the cast is ok as-is, only changes I'd make are to recast SOME of Sabat's roles, and recast Freeza.
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Post by NeptuneKai » Wed May 06, 2009 8:57 pm

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Innagadadavida wrote: I'd like it if only to see how the haters will find a way to continue their hate after getting what they've been complaining for.
I really dislike being labeled as a "complaining hater" for wanting a proper dub of the series. All I want is Buu saga script accuracy for the Freeza and Cell sagas along with the correct names and terminology. I don't really think that is out of the question. (Maybe a small voice cast change as well.)
Most of the cast is ok as-is, only changes I'd make are to recast SOME of Sabat's roles, and recast Freeza.

If I could just see Freeza, Recoome and North Kai recast I'd be a happy camper.
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Post by The Time Traveller » Wed May 06, 2009 9:04 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:If I could just see Freeza, Recoome and North Kai recast I'd be a happy camper.
I'd rather have every Character recast.

Get rid of Schemmel, replace all of Sabat's roles, Sonny Strait is outta there, and basically anyone else who talks.

And the effeminate male voices for extras, who's idea was that? But if they did dub this and they kept all of the voices the same... I will eat the hat I am wearing...

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Post by NeptuneKai » Wed May 06, 2009 9:10 pm

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And the effeminate male voices for extras,
Yeah, what is up with making most of the oni's in the heavenly realm gay?
I would seriously like to know.
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Post by DemonRin » Wed May 06, 2009 9:12 pm

Most of the cast have grown as actors, Sonny Strait is just plain amazing nowadays. I loved him as Hughes in FMA and ESPECIALLY as Usopp in One Piece. He'd make a great Kuririn.

Most of Sabat's roles need recasting, this is true, and I doubt Schemmel would even come back considering he's had that falling out with FUNi. Doing video games is one thing, coming back to do a 100+ Episode series is another entirely.

And they'd better not touch Chris Rager as Mark.
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Post by B » Wed May 06, 2009 9:14 pm

Christopher R. Sabat's SOULLESS performance(in comparison to the heavenly vocal chords of Furukawa-san) in the series will forever cripple Doragon Boru of having a good dub. The script can be so accurate, seven minutes of every episode could be straight Japanese, and Sabat's smokey, unfitting voice would still just RUIN it all.

RUIN IT AAAAAAAAAAAALL
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Post by The Time Traveller » Wed May 06, 2009 9:14 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:
And the effeminate male voices for extras,
Yeah, what is up with making most of the oni's in the heavenly realm gay?
I would seriously like to know.
Ever notice how there are no female oni's?

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Post by DemonRin » Wed May 06, 2009 9:16 pm

B wrote:Christopher R. Sabat's SOULLESS performance(in comparison to the heavenly vocal chords of Furukawa-san) in the series will forever cripple Doragon Boru of having a good dub. The script can be so accurate, seven minutes of every episode could be straight Japanese, and Sabat's smokey, unfitting voice would still just RUIN it all.

RUIN IT AAAAAAAAAAAALL
Not if they let him act like he does in One Piece
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Post by NeptuneKai » Wed May 06, 2009 9:21 pm

I think Sabat's Vegeta and Piccolo are okay nowadays. As soon as he stopped attempting to sound like the Saban cast the charachters were much more bearable. I really enjoy Sonny as Kurririn, I can not think of a much better suited voice for him. Sonny is a great actor and his readings for Kurririns more goofy lines always make me laugh. Anyway I don't believe for a second Sean would be replaced if they did a redub, they'd go without dubbing Kai before ditching him as Goku.
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Post by B » Wed May 06, 2009 9:25 pm

DemonRin wrote:
B wrote:Christopher R. Sabat's SOULLESS performance(in comparison to the heavenly vocal chords of Furukawa-san) in the series will forever cripple Doragon Boru of having a good dub. The script can be so accurate, seven minutes of every episode could be straight Japanese, and Sabat's smokey, unfitting voice would still just RUIN it all.

RUIN IT AAAAAAAAAAAALL
Not if they let him act like he does in One Piece
Sounds almost exactly like Piccolo, to be honest with you. And Usopp sounds almost exactly like Krillin. And Bellamy sounds almost exactly like Raditz.

It's not that they've all become better VAs; they've become better writers.
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Post by NeptuneKai » Wed May 06, 2009 9:28 pm

B wrote:
DemonRin wrote:
B wrote:Christopher R. Sabat's SOULLESS performance(in comparison to the heavenly vocal chords of Furukawa-san) in the series will forever cripple Doragon Boru of having a good dub. The script can be so accurate, seven minutes of every episode could be straight Japanese, and Sabat's smokey, unfitting voice would still just RUIN it all.

RUIN IT AAAAAAAAAAAALL
Not if they let him act like he does in One Piece
Sounds almost exactly like Piccolo, to be honest with you. And Usopp sounds almost exactly like Krillin. And Bellamy sounds almost exactly like Raditz.

It's not that they've all become better VAs; they've become better writers.
For the most part I think it's how they read the lines and the emotion they put behind the reading more then anything else. But I do agree that improving the script comes first.
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed May 06, 2009 9:36 pm

B wrote:Christopher R. Sabat's SOULLESS performance(in comparison to the heavenly vocal chords of Furukawa-san) in the series will forever cripple Doragon Boru of having a good dub. The script can be so accurate, seven minutes of every episode could be straight Japanese, and Sabat's smokey, unfitting voice would still just RUIN it all.

RUIN IT AAAAAAAAAAAALL
I don't really think he cares what you think. He's worked his ass off in the Dragonball franchise and has plenty of his own fans.


I'd be up for a new dub, espicially if they recast Freeza. I'm typically against recasts, but a proper characterization plus Young's Freeza still wouldn't mix well.
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Post by DemonRin » Wed May 06, 2009 9:40 pm

B wrote: Sounds almost exactly like Piccolo, to be honest with you. And Usopp sounds almost exactly like Krillin. And Bellamy sounds almost exactly like Raditz.

It's not that they've all become better VAs; they've become better writers.
uum... his Piccolo sounds like he's been smoking for years, his Zoro doesn't.
His Zoro actually sounds like his normal voice from when I heard him in interviews.
It's not the tone of voice, it's the acting Quality.
In One Piece, his acting is Stellar, as is pretty much the whole cast.
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Post by The Time Traveller » Wed May 06, 2009 9:40 pm

And if we hear "Seiyan" or "Keioken", we should make some kind of threat...

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Post by JulieYBM » Wed May 06, 2009 9:42 pm

DemonRin wrote:
B wrote: Sounds almost exactly like Piccolo, to be honest with you. And Usopp sounds almost exactly like Krillin. And Bellamy sounds almost exactly like Raditz.

It's not that they've all become better VAs; they've become better writers.
uum... his Piccolo sounds like he's been smoking for years, his Zoro doesn't.
His Zoro actually sounds like his normal voice from when I heard him in interviews.
It's not the tone of voice, it's the acting Quality.
In One Piece, his acting is Stellar, as is pretty much the whole cast.
I'd actually argue he recently moved into just speaking for Piccolo as well, with the slight edge of a bark whenever Piccolo's being gnarly. Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtWym4T884E&fmt=18
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Post by NeptuneKai » Wed May 06, 2009 9:46 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
DemonRin wrote:
B wrote: Sounds almost exactly like Piccolo, to be honest with you. And Usopp sounds almost exactly like Krillin. And Bellamy sounds almost exactly like Raditz.

It's not that they've all become better VAs; they've become better writers.
uum... his Piccolo sounds like he's been smoking for years, his Zoro doesn't.
His Zoro actually sounds like his normal voice from when I heard him in interviews.
It's not the tone of voice, it's the acting Quality.
In One Piece, his acting is Stellar, as is pretty much the whole cast.
I'd actually argue he recently moved into just speaking for Piccolo as well, with the slight edge of a bark whenever Piccolo's being gnarly. Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtWym4T884E&fmt=18
This is exactly why I want a redub. I want this quality of voice work consistently throughout the show.
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Post by DemonRin » Wed May 06, 2009 9:46 pm

Yeah, MOST of the FUNi cast got really good, unfortunately they weren't this good when they did the actual show.

(Note: I said MOST, not all)
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