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Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.Godo wrote:Oh, he doesn't have the time. Before he knows it, he is trapped in the genjutsu. And he doesn't know how to cancel it.Shoryuken wrote:Before or after Goku rips him apart? Seriously though Goku is way faster than the likes of Itachi for him to be affected by it.Godo wrote:Well, going with Naruto, their raw power may fade in comparision to say, Goku's, BUT, imagine the Makengou (spelling?) Sharingan genjutsu on Goku's brain. He would be in a coma in no time.
He can be trapped without knowing it, with Itachi being far, far away.
Besides, Goku is not really the one to attack directly before his enemy does. He likes to see what they've got, at least as an adult.
Believe me the battle wouldn't last longer than 1 second all ending with the words "I'll turn you to candy", besides Majin Buu just needs to go on one of his killing sprees and all of Middle Earth will be all but a wasteland.Hellspawn28 wrote:I would like to see Majin Buu enter Middle Earth since Melkor/Morgoth against Buu would be a close fight.
Now that's more of a tricky question....Hellspawn28 wrote:I don't know about you but I can name a bunch of series that would be way above DBZGT. A good example would be Doctor Who since one Timelord would likely kill anyone in DBZGT in my opinion.DBZ characters would utterly destroy pretty much every other series.
Tao is quicker, stronger and more durable than the likes of Lucci ergo Tao kills with his tongue or a dodonpa.Hellspawn28 wrote:I never thought of that idea since that would be a nice idea. Tao in OP would be cool to see if he went against Rob Lucci in combat.
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The Z fighters in Darkstalkers would be cool to see since Jedah Dohma against Vegito would be a awesome battle IMO. Or the whole Z warriors against Pyron.
Or what about the Z fighters in Warhammer 40,000 would be cool too IMO
. I think the Outlaw Star series would be cool for Goku and the others to enter. It been a long time since I watched it but I remember the Galactic Ley Line having some crazy cosmic power.
Or what about the Z fighters in Warhammer 40,000 would be cool too IMO

I disargee since the Tolkienverse has some very powerful characters like Eru Iluvatar and the Valar. I'm not sure if the candy ray can work on a non corporeal spirit like Melkor/Morgoth? I'd call a tie unless Iluvatar kicks him out the universe.Believe me the battle wouldn't last longer than 1 second all ending with the words "I'll turn you to candy", besides Majin Buu just needs to go on one of his killing sprees and all of Middle Earth will be all but a wasteland.
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I dunno, Tolkas wrestled him a bit, didn't he? And someone (I already forgot whoHellspawn28 wrote:That fan fiction was pretty good. I'm not sure what can they can do to Melkor in battle since he is a non-corporeal spirit and Illuvatar failed to kill him (Who is the main god of the Tolkienverse).

I think generally though I was undecided on whether or not Melkor would actually be brought out, so I didn't think too much on what would happen.

Meep, I haven't seen this... I think I want to, now.Hellspawn28 wrote: I would like see Freeza empire in the Star Wars universe since that would be cool to see. I think their was a fan fiction about that somewhere on Fanfiction.net.
I did see the beginnings of a fanfiction someone was doing that involved four Trunks from alternate crossover-verses coming together to do... umm... something. I dunno, it didn't get very far, but one of them was a Jedi, and I think one was connected to Sailor Moon somehow.

I do have a DBZ/Starwars fic, though it's set in the Buu saga. I was working on some sequels that were vaguely more like what you mensioned, but never got around to finishing that (the linked one is complete, though. I was writing it with "make an action figure movie" in mind. Which... I think I'd still like to do...

You do know what chakra is, right?Shoryuken wrote: Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.
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Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.caejones wrote:You do know what chakra is, right?Shoryuken wrote: Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.
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Demonbane.
I'm pretty sure Demonbane is the only thing strong enough to put down the Z-Fighters without much argument on either side of the debate.
I'm pretty sure Demonbane is the only thing strong enough to put down the Z-Fighters without much argument on either side of the debate.
It cuts through dimensions. Holy shit.The titular Deus Machina, this white-shelled humanoid machine has broad shoulders and two oversized shin guards. It is primarily designed for melee-combat, but also can utilize a pair of handguns (Cthugha & Ithaqua). Special moves include 'Atlantis Strike', a flying kick assisted by the shinguards and 'Lemuria Impact', where a sphere of zero mass and infinite heat and pressure is created over the opponent. Due to the nature of its power source, it can function without draining energy from the pilot's life. At later points in the story, it gains the ability to summon the Shining Trapezohedron, a long twin-bladed sword of unparalleled power that has the ability to cut through dimensions and seal away powerful gods.
Tell that to Naruto when he uses his Rasengan:Shoryuken wrote:Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.caejones wrote:You do know what chakra is, right?Shoryuken wrote: Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.

It's a concentrated chakra attack. Looks like something else we have seen before! Let's go and tell Krillin that he can't use his Kienzan anymore, 'cause ki and chakra do not work the same way.
And again I ask, a ki? Chakra? Chinese Medicine? Sephiroth?Shoryuken wrote:Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.caejones wrote:You do know what chakra is, right?Shoryuken wrote: Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.
And then there's laogong points, but I don't know what that'd be under wiki-wise.
The point is that there's huge overlap in the cultural origin of these concepts, and the concepts themselves are not only not mutually exclusive, but can complement one another rather nicely. Especially if you toy with tying it all in to western science, but that's a whole other can of worms.
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So I made a typo, big deal!?, what I meant was a ki-system.caejones wrote:And again I ask, a ki? Chakra? Chinese Medicine? Sephiroth?Shoryuken wrote:Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.caejones wrote: You do know what chakra is, right?
And then there's laogong points, but I don't know what that'd be under wiki-wise.
The point is that there's huge overlap in the cultural origin of these concepts, and the concepts themselves are not only not mutually exclusive, but can complement one another rather nicely. Especially if you toy with tying it all in to western science, but that's a whole other can of worms.
Ki differs from chakra in it's nature, but it's irrelevant since Goku is beyond hypersonic and Itachi at best is supersonic which means....
That Goku most likely will destroy him before the though of using a dojutsu enters his mind.
But the Mankengou Sharingan has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the mind. Have you read Naruto?Shoryuken wrote:So I made a typo, big deal!?, what I meant was a ki-system.caejones wrote:And again I ask, a ki? Chakra? Chinese Medicine? Sephiroth?Shoryuken wrote: Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.
And then there's laogong points, but I don't know what that'd be under wiki-wise.
The point is that there's huge overlap in the cultural origin of these concepts, and the concepts themselves are not only not mutually exclusive, but can complement one another rather nicely. Especially if you toy with tying it all in to western science, but that's a whole other can of worms.
Ki differs from chakra in it's nature, but it's irrelevant since Goku is beyond hypersonic and Itachi at best is supersonic which means....
That Goku most likely will destroy him before the though of using a dojutsu enters his mind.

If you look into a Sharingan user's eyes, you are trapped.
I bet that Goku doesn't know about that. And it would be effective since he stares his enemies down before he fights.
Let's just leave this alone. It's two different manga after all.
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How about Sonic the Hedgehog? It gets compared to Dragon Ball enough. Surely a Sonic character by themselves couldn't fight a Dragon Ball character on evenly (at their strongest, anyway), but what about if we take Super forms into account? Super Sonic is practically indestructible, flies through space unscathed and has beaten up dimension eating, planet destroying giant monsters.
Not primarily an anime, of course, but it's had a couple based on it.
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Comic Book Sonic series had powers beyond anything that DBZ characters can do like destroying universes with their hands and destroying the with their space time continuum with their punchs. I think the video game Sonic should give SSj Namke Saga Goku a decent fight.
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Choo choo!VegettoEX wrote:Less quote trains, yo. Thanks.
Well, did he beat them with violence or by tricking them/outwitting them?Bussani wrote:How about Sonic the Hedgehog? It gets compared to Dragon Ball enough. Surely a Sonic character by themselves couldn't fight a Dragon Ball character on evenly (at their strongest, anyway), but what about if we take Super forms into account? Super Sonic is practically indestructible, flies through space unscathed and has beaten up dimension eating, planet destroying giant monsters.
Not primarily an anime, of course, but it's had a couple based on it.
The Super Sonic form is strong, although I don't know how his strength should be measured compared to Dragonball.
He has the speec, though.
Violence. Usually either by flying through them, or these days, by shooting energy blasts. Sonic, Shadow and Silver in their Super forms defeated a pan-dimensional, time/dimension eating entity with pure power. That's gotta be at least Buu saga level.Godo wrote:Well, did he beat them with violence or by tricking them/outwitting them?
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That's not what I'm saying. Ki-manipulation varies from chakra-manipulation; For starters Ki isn't nature-based it's pure "light".Godo wrote:Tell that to Naruto when he uses his Rasengan:Shoryuken wrote:Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.caejones wrote: You do know what chakra is, right?
It's a concentrated chakra attack. Looks like something else we have seen before! Let's go and tell Krillin that he can't use his Kienzan anymore, 'cause ki and chakra do not work the same way.
I agreeGodo wrote: But the Mankengou Sharingan has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the mind. Have you read Naruto?![]()
If you look into a Sharingan user's eyes, you are trapped.
I bet that Goku doesn't know about that. And it would be effective since he stares his enemies down before he fights.
Let's just leave this alone. It's two different manga after all.
Goku moves fastes than Itachi can see