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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:59 pm

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Post by Shoryuken » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:22 am

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Godo wrote:Well, going with Naruto, their raw power may fade in comparision to say, Goku's, BUT, imagine the Makengou (spelling?) Sharingan genjutsu on Goku's brain. He would be in a coma in no time.
Before or after Goku rips him apart? Seriously though Goku is way faster than the likes of Itachi for him to be affected by it.
Oh, he doesn't have the time. Before he knows it, he is trapped in the genjutsu. And he doesn't know how to cancel it.
He can be trapped without knowing it, with Itachi being far, far away.
Besides, Goku is not really the one to attack directly before his enemy does. He likes to see what they've got, at least as an adult.
Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I would like to see Majin Buu enter Middle Earth since Melkor/Morgoth against Buu would be a close fight.
Believe me the battle wouldn't last longer than 1 second all ending with the words "I'll turn you to candy", besides Majin Buu just needs to go on one of his killing sprees and all of Middle Earth will be all but a wasteland.
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DBZ characters would utterly destroy pretty much every other series.
I don't know about you but I can name a bunch of series that would be way above DBZGT. A good example would be Doctor Who since one Timelord would likely kill anyone in DBZGT in my opinion.
Now that's more of a tricky question....
Hellspawn28 wrote:I never thought of that idea since that would be a nice idea. Tao in OP would be cool to see if he went against Rob Lucci in combat.
Tao is quicker, stronger and more durable than the likes of Lucci ergo Tao kills with his tongue or a dodonpa.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:41 am

The Z fighters in Darkstalkers would be cool to see since Jedah Dohma against Vegito would be a awesome battle IMO. Or the whole Z warriors against Pyron.

Or what about the Z fighters in Warhammer 40,000 would be cool too IMO :D. I think the Outlaw Star series would be cool for Goku and the others to enter. It been a long time since I watched it but I remember the Galactic Ley Line having some crazy cosmic power.
Believe me the battle wouldn't last longer than 1 second all ending with the words "I'll turn you to candy", besides Majin Buu just needs to go on one of his killing sprees and all of Middle Earth will be all but a wasteland.
I disargee since the Tolkienverse has some very powerful characters like Eru Iluvatar and the Valar. I'm not sure if the candy ray can work on a non corporeal spirit like Melkor/Morgoth? I'd call a tie unless Iluvatar kicks him out the universe.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:58 am

Older Togoro vs Garlick JR........two immortals.
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Post by caejones » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:16 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:That fan fiction was pretty good. I'm not sure what can they can do to Melkor in battle since he is a non-corporeal spirit and Illuvatar failed to kill him (Who is the main god of the Tolkienverse).
I dunno, Tolkas wrestled him a bit, didn't he? And someone (I already forgot who :mad: ) managed to stab him seven times... but I suppose that's mostly because of his physical kingdom at the time.
I think generally though I was undecided on whether or not Melkor would actually be brought out, so I didn't think too much on what would happen. :( I wound up focusing on a balrog army in my notes, but then it all kinda died somehow.
Hellspawn28 wrote: I would like see Freeza empire in the Star Wars universe since that would be cool to see. I think their was a fan fiction about that somewhere on Fanfiction.net.
Meep, I haven't seen this... I think I want to, now.
I did see the beginnings of a fanfiction someone was doing that involved four Trunks from alternate crossover-verses coming together to do... umm... something. I dunno, it didn't get very far, but one of them was a Jedi, and I think one was connected to Sailor Moon somehow. :?
I do have a DBZ/Starwars fic, though it's set in the Buu saga. I was working on some sequels that were vaguely more like what you mensioned, but never got around to finishing that (the linked one is complete, though. I was writing it with "make an action figure movie" in mind. Which... I think I'd still like to do... :( ).

Shoryuken wrote: Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.
You do know what chakra is, right?
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Post by Shoryuken » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:09 am

caejones wrote:
Shoryuken wrote: Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.
You do know what chakra is, right?
Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.

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Post by Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:17 am

Demonbane.

I'm pretty sure Demonbane is the only thing strong enough to put down the Z-Fighters without much argument on either side of the debate.
The titular Deus Machina, this white-shelled humanoid machine has broad shoulders and two oversized shin guards. It is primarily designed for melee-combat, but also can utilize a pair of handguns (Cthugha & Ithaqua). Special moves include 'Atlantis Strike', a flying kick assisted by the shinguards and 'Lemuria Impact', where a sphere of zero mass and infinite heat and pressure is created over the opponent. Due to the nature of its power source, it can function without draining energy from the pilot's life. At later points in the story, it gains the ability to summon the Shining Trapezohedron, a long twin-bladed sword of unparalleled power that has the ability to cut through dimensions and seal away powerful gods.
It cuts through dimensions. Holy shit.

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Post by Godo » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:54 am

Shoryuken wrote:
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Shoryuken wrote: Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.
You do know what chakra is, right?
Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.
Tell that to Naruto when he uses his Rasengan:

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It's a concentrated chakra attack. Looks like something else we have seen before! Let's go and tell Krillin that he can't use his Kienzan anymore, 'cause ki and chakra do not work the same way.

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Post by caejones » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:57 pm

Shoryuken wrote:
caejones wrote:
Shoryuken wrote: Goku doesn't have a chakra system thus he won't be affected by genjutsu.
You do know what chakra is, right?
Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.
And again I ask, a ki? Chakra? Chinese Medicine? Sephiroth?

And then there's laogong points, but I don't know what that'd be under wiki-wise.
The point is that there's huge overlap in the cultural origin of these concepts, and the concepts themselves are not only not mutually exclusive, but can complement one another rather nicely. Especially if you toy with tying it all in to western science, but that's a whole other can of worms.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:03 pm

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:Demonbane.
Demonbane has a mechagod that kill people by looking at them if I'm not mistaken? I think Gunbuster/Diebuster would be a nice match up for DBZ.
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Post by Shoryuken » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:38 pm

caejones wrote:
Shoryuken wrote:
caejones wrote: You do know what chakra is, right?
Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.
And again I ask, a ki? Chakra? Chinese Medicine? Sephiroth?

And then there's laogong points, but I don't know what that'd be under wiki-wise.
The point is that there's huge overlap in the cultural origin of these concepts, and the concepts themselves are not only not mutually exclusive, but can complement one another rather nicely. Especially if you toy with tying it all in to western science, but that's a whole other can of worms.
So I made a typo, big deal!?, what I meant was a ki-system.
Ki differs from chakra in it's nature, but it's irrelevant since Goku is beyond hypersonic and Itachi at best is supersonic which means....
That Goku most likely will destroy him before the though of using a dojutsu enters his mind.

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Post by Godo » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:58 pm

Shoryuken wrote:
caejones wrote:
Shoryuken wrote: Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.
And again I ask, a ki? Chakra? Chinese Medicine? Sephiroth?

And then there's laogong points, but I don't know what that'd be under wiki-wise.
The point is that there's huge overlap in the cultural origin of these concepts, and the concepts themselves are not only not mutually exclusive, but can complement one another rather nicely. Especially if you toy with tying it all in to western science, but that's a whole other can of worms.
So I made a typo, big deal!?, what I meant was a ki-system.
Ki differs from chakra in it's nature, but it's irrelevant since Goku is beyond hypersonic and Itachi at best is supersonic which means....
That Goku most likely will destroy him before the though of using a dojutsu enters his mind.
But the Mankengou Sharingan has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the mind. Have you read Naruto? :?
If you look into a Sharingan user's eyes, you are trapped.
I bet that Goku doesn't know about that. And it would be effective since he stares his enemies down before he fights.
Let's just leave this alone. It's two different manga after all.

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:03 pm

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Post by Bussani » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:16 pm

How about Sonic the Hedgehog? It gets compared to Dragon Ball enough. Surely a Sonic character by themselves couldn't fight a Dragon Ball character on evenly (at their strongest, anyway), but what about if we take Super forms into account? Super Sonic is practically indestructible, flies through space unscathed and has beaten up dimension eating, planet destroying giant monsters.

Not primarily an anime, of course, but it's had a couple based on it.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:31 pm

Comic Book Sonic series had powers beyond anything that DBZ characters can do like destroying universes with their hands and destroying the with their space time continuum with their punchs. I think the video game Sonic should give SSj Namke Saga Goku a decent fight.
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Post by Godo » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:11 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Less quote trains, yo. Thanks :).
Choo choo!
Bussani wrote:How about Sonic the Hedgehog? It gets compared to Dragon Ball enough. Surely a Sonic character by themselves couldn't fight a Dragon Ball character on evenly (at their strongest, anyway), but what about if we take Super forms into account? Super Sonic is practically indestructible, flies through space unscathed and has beaten up dimension eating, planet destroying giant monsters.

Not primarily an anime, of course, but it's had a couple based on it.
Well, did he beat them with violence or by tricking them/outwitting them?
The Super Sonic form is strong, although I don't know how his strength should be measured compared to Dragonball.
He has the speec, though.

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Post by Bussani » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:19 pm

Godo wrote:Well, did he beat them with violence or by tricking them/outwitting them?
Violence. Usually either by flying through them, or these days, by shooting energy blasts. Sonic, Shadow and Silver in their Super forms defeated a pan-dimensional, time/dimension eating entity with pure power. That's gotta be at least Buu saga level.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:36 pm

Vegeta tells Sonic to go make a good game. :lol:
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:26 pm

^lol or uses the Dragon Balls to wish for Sega to make a good Sonic since 2001.
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Post by Shoryuken » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:29 am

Godo wrote:
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caejones wrote: You do know what chakra is, right?
Goku has a ki in his system not chakra besides they behave diffrently.
Tell that to Naruto when he uses his Rasengan:

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It's a concentrated chakra attack. Looks like something else we have seen before! Let's go and tell Krillin that he can't use his Kienzan anymore, 'cause ki and chakra do not work the same way.
That's not what I'm saying. Ki-manipulation varies from chakra-manipulation; For starters Ki isn't nature-based it's pure "light".
Godo wrote: But the Mankengou Sharingan has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the mind. Have you read Naruto? :?
If you look into a Sharingan user's eyes, you are trapped.
I bet that Goku doesn't know about that. And it would be effective since he stares his enemies down before he fights.
Let's just leave this alone. It's two different manga after all.
I agree
Goku moves fastes than Itachi can see

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