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Post by Big Momma » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:38 pm

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Metalwario64 wrote:Wasn't that the dub intro theme to the Baadaku and Tolankusu specials?
...um.
Bardock and Trunks specials, I didn't get it at first, either.


...dunno why he typed it in Romaji, though...
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Post by NeptuneKai » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:55 pm

Big Momma wrote: ...dunno why he typed it in Romaji, though...
I don't know...probably spent too much time reading his Kanzanban.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:02 pm

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Big Momma wrote: ...dunno why he typed it in Romaji, though...
I don't know...probably spent too much time reading his Kanzanban.
I don't even have a kanzenban, so how could I be reading it? :?

As for why I typed like that, hasn't it ever occurred to you bucket-legs that I was simply trying to be more accurate, and more Japanese? :evil:

Actually, I just like to randomly type names in Japanese sometimes 'cuz I think it's funny.
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Post by GizmoKSX » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:14 pm

nathantheguitarist wrote: And there's this retardation from the UUE's that can also go to hell. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkXjTaOYaXo
I always liked the tone on the bass in the credits theme. Nothing really incredible going on there (and nothing to do with DB), but it has that going for it.
Metalwario64 wrote: Wasn't that the dub intro theme to the Baadaku and Tolankusu specials?
I had to read the post after yours for context clues before realizing what you said there. :wink: Actually, the "sing-along" captions on the opening and ending themes of the FUNi-box should have us conditioned for that style of translation. "Zenkai pawaa!"
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Post by NeptuneKai » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:31 pm

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Big Momma wrote: ...dunno why he typed it in Romaji, though...
I don't know...probably spent too much time reading his Kanzanban.
I don't even have a kanzenban, so how could I be reading it? :?
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Post by jjgp1112 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:48 pm

DemonRin wrote:No, the Faulconer music "Sounds Better" because that's what you guys grew up with, so that's what sounds good to you.

If you grew up where this version aired, you'd be making the opposite claim right now.

The only openings to Dragon Ball Z are "CHA-LA HEAD CHA-LA" and "WE GOTTA POWER". Period.
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Post by Taku128 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:41 pm

DemonRin wrote:No, the Faulconer music "Sounds Better" because that's what you guys grew up with, so that's what sounds good to you.

If you grew up where this version aired, you'd be making the opposite claim right now.

The only openings to Dragon Ball Z are "CHA-LA HEAD CHA-LA" and "WE GOTTA POWER". Period.
No, Cha-La Head Cha-La and We Gotta Power only sound better to you because it's the original, so you automatically like it better.

If Faulconer's music were in the original, you'd be making the opposite claim right now.

Yay logic that can be reversed! :D
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Post by Big Momma » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:44 pm

Taku128 wrote:
DemonRin wrote:No, the Faulconer music "Sounds Better" because that's what you guys grew up with, so that's what sounds good to you.

If you grew up where this version aired, you'd be making the opposite claim right now.

The only openings to Dragon Ball Z are "CHA-LA HEAD CHA-LA" and "WE GOTTA POWER". Period.
No, Cha-La Head Cha-La and We Gotta Power only sound better to you because it's the original, so you automatically like it better.

If Faulconer's music were in the original, you'd be making the opposite claim right now.

Yay logic that can be reversed! :D
How about we don't try to tell people the reasons why they like stuff?
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Post by Taku128 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:48 pm

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DemonRin wrote:No, the Faulconer music "Sounds Better" because that's what you guys grew up with, so that's what sounds good to you.

If you grew up where this version aired, you'd be making the opposite claim right now.

The only openings to Dragon Ball Z are "CHA-LA HEAD CHA-LA" and "WE GOTTA POWER". Period.
No, Cha-La Head Cha-La and We Gotta Power only sound better to you because it's the original, so you automatically like it better.

If Faulconer's music were in the original, you'd be making the opposite claim right now.

Yay logic that can be reversed! :D
How about we don't try to tell people the reasons why they like stuff?
That was the point of my post. DemonRin made assumptions that people only like Fauconer's music because they grew up with it, and that the only true DBZ openings are Head Cha La and We Gotta Power, so I reversed it and made the assumption that she only likes Head Cha La and We Gotta Power because it's in the original.
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Post by penguintruth » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:53 pm

Taku128 wrote:I reversed it and made the assumption that she only likes Head Cha La and We Gotta Power because it's in the original.
Except you can't reverse that logic, because, yes, they were in the original, and thus they were the intended OPs.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:56 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
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NeptuneKai wrote: I don't know...probably spent too much time reading his Kanzanban.
I don't even have a kanzenban, so how could I be reading it? :?
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Post by Taku128 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:03 pm

penguintruth wrote:
Taku128 wrote:I reversed it and made the assumption that she only likes Head Cha La and We Gotta Power because it's in the original.
Except you can't reverse that logic, because, yes, they were in the original, and thus they were the intended OPs.
So that automatically makes it better music? Nobody has mentioned Faulconer's opening being better in the context of the show, only that they think it sounds better.
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Post by Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:49 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
Bura wrote:I was talking about this one, actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAKtaPQVUPc
That was the pile of shit I was thinking of as well.
I find the Falconer opening far less embarrassing to listen to than that other opening. I mean, shit. The Falconer opening at least sounds like it had some thought put in to it. The other one is just some guy and Aquaman shouting in to a mic.

It's like saying that this is less embarrassing to listen to than this.

As far as context with the intended opening go, I'm pretty sure they didn't care at all and just wanted to market it to kids.

Head-Cha-La and We Gotta Power are still better, though. Leagues better.

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Post by Rocketman » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:18 pm

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:Head-Cha-La ... still better, though. Leagues better.
How? I honestly cannot comprehend this.

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Post by penguintruth » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:21 pm

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Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:Head-Cha-La ... still better, though. Leagues better.
How? I honestly cannot comprehend this.
Because of the sense of joy and adventure it has, instead of just, "RAWK TIME! HERE'S SOME ACTION RAWK, KIDS! TOTALLY HARDCORE!"
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Post by Rocketman » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:33 pm

penguintruth wrote:Because of the sense of joy and adventure it has, instead of just, "RAWK TIME! HERE'S SOME ACTION RAWK, KIDS! TOTALLY HARDCORE!"
What "joy and adventure" is there in DBZ?

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Post by Super Sonic » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:37 pm

penguintruth wrote:Cha-La, Head Cha-La absolutely does have to do with the show, it's about the sense of wonder present throughout the series. Even though Z is mostly a combat show, it still retains elements of the earlier DB story, with travelling to a different planet, meeting all kinds of gods and wizards, etc.

They probably could've come up with an English version for an opening, but they preferred turning it into some brainless American cartoon with AWESOME ROCK. I can't argue that it didn't work, but it was still pretty cynical.

You're telling me we can't get Vic Mignogna to sing the Filipino dub movie version of Cha-La, Head Cha-La?
Though she doesn't live in Texas, I still think Sandy Fox would've been better. For those not familar, here's an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb-4FfFwON8

Will have to say though that "Rock the Dragon" is noticed by some to be one of those themes like the X-Men and MK themes, that are instantly recognized by first riff/part of music and gets people pumped for the show. Still like "We Gotta Power" the most.

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Post by Taku128 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:41 pm

Rocketman wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Because of the sense of joy and adventure it has, instead of just, "RAWK TIME! HERE'S SOME ACTION RAWK, KIDS! TOTALLY HARDCORE!"
What "joy and adventure" is there in DBZ?
I'm honestly curious about this too. As much as I love Head-Cha-La as a song, I don't think it has anything to do with the series outside of mentioning the letter Z and the Genki Dama. Head-Cha-La would be way more fitting for early Dragon Ball, although Makafushigi Adventure already perfectly fits it.
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Post by penguintruth » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:16 pm

Rocketman wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Because of the sense of joy and adventure it has, instead of just, "RAWK TIME! HERE'S SOME ACTION RAWK, KIDS! TOTALLY HARDCORE!"
What "joy and adventure" is there in DBZ?
I already explained it in the last page.
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