Most overrated characters in terms of power?

[Michsi]

Well tbh, I haven't actully seen that many ppl claiming this. I haven't been on many DB forums aside from this one lately, but it was only here that I encountered so many who believed Base Sayajin>Piccolo.

There's way more Base Saiya-jins > Piccolo believers elsewhere, in places like Neoseeker. A large group of people over there even believe that Base Gotenks is > SSjin 3 Goku (which is the main reason I personally think Gotenks is maybe the most overrated character in the entire series.)

I agree man to a extent. On Neoseeker theres a ton and probably on other forums cant really verify that though. But i think overall most fans believe Piccolo>Base Saiyans. Like on this forum. And i just dont get Base Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku can someone explain the "logic" behind it?. Its also funny how much people underrate Piccolo during the Cell Games when its pretty clear hes close to Vegeta/Future Trunks based of my interpretation of the Manga/Anime. Also Tenshinhan is heavily underrated imo i dont see how hes under Krillin.

Yeah, that too. As much as I like Krillin, I can't really see him being stronger than Ten. As far as I can tell, most who believe so, base their oppinion on Yamcha's statement alone but the story doesn't really back up that claim.

[Michsi]

Well tbh, I haven't actully seen that many ppl claiming this. I haven't been on many DB forums aside from this one lately, but it was only here that I encountered so many who believed Base Sayajin>Piccolo.

There's way more Base Saiya-jins > Piccolo believers elsewhere, in places like Neoseeker. A large group of people over there even believe that Base Gotenks is > SSjin 3 Goku (which is the main reason I personally think Gotenks is maybe the most overrated character in the entire series.)

I agree man to a extent. On Neoseeker theres a ton and probably on other forums cant really verify that though. But i think overall most fans believe Piccolo>Base Saiyans. Like on this forum. And i just dont get Base Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku can someone explain the "logic" behind it?. Its also funny how much people underrate Piccolo during the Cell Games when its pretty clear hes close to Vegeta/Future Trunks based of my interpretation of the Manga/Anime. Also Tenshinhan is heavily underrated imo i dont see how hes under Krillin.

Yeah, that too. As much as I like Krillin, I can't really see him being stronger than Ten. As far as I can tell, most who believe so, base their oppinion on Yamcha's statement alone but the story doesn't really back up that claim.

[Kirby456]

^ I agree. I like Krillin as much as i like Tien but theres no evidence for Krillin being stronger. Imo all the evidence points to Tien being a fair amount stronger.

[CatouttaHell]

I agree man to a extent. On Neoseeker theres a ton and probably on other forums cant really verify that though. But i think overall most fans believe Piccolo>Base Saiyans. Like on this forum. And i just dont get Base Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku can someone explain the "logic" behind it?. Its also funny how much people underrate Piccolo during the Cell Games when its pretty clear hes close to Vegeta/Future Trunks based of my interpretation of the Manga/Anime. Also Tenshinhan is heavily underrated imo i dont see how hes under Krillin.

It's just people who don't understand what gag scenes are and ignore common sense. Taking gag scenes seriously creates a Base Gotenks (Post) > SSjin Gotenks (Pre) > Base Gotenks (Pre) > Fat Boo chain, which anybody with an ounce of common sense knows is bullshit.

[Nazi Cola]

Except everything that happened on Namek...

[Kirby456]

I agree man to a extent. On Neoseeker theres a ton and probably on other forums cant really verify that though. But i think overall most fans believe Piccolo>Base Saiyans. Like on this forum. And i just dont get Base Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku can someone explain the "logic" behind it?. Its also funny how much people underrate Piccolo during the Cell Games when its pretty clear hes close to Vegeta/Future Trunks based of my interpretation of the Manga/Anime. Also Tenshinhan is heavily underrated imo i dont see how hes under Krillin.

It's just people who don't understand what gag scenes are and ignore common sense. Taking gag scenes seriously creates a Base Gotenks (Post) > SSjin Gotenks (Pre) > Base Gotenks (Pre) > Fat Boo chain, which anybody with an ounce of common sense knows is bullshit.

Wait theres people who actually believe Base Gotenks Pre > Majin Boo?. I remember Majin Boo kicking the crap out of him in Base without even trying. At least in the anime/manga i read/watched.

[CatouttaHell]

Er, I meant SSjin 2 Demon Prince Vegeta, my fault. People think that because he survived an encounter with Boo that he's above SSjin 2 Vegeta. I guess that means that since Mr. Satan survived an encounter with Perfect Cell that he's above Future Trunks LOL.

[Kirby456]

Er, I meant SSjin 2 Demon Prince Vegeta, my fault. People think that because he survived an encounter with Boo that he's above SSjin 2 Vegeta. I guess that means that since Mr. Satan survived an encounter with Perfect Cell that he's above Future Trunks LOL.

Lol!. So know i guess its Mr Satan>Perfect Cell. I wouldn't even call that "logic" or "ultra fanboyism" id say its in a category of its own.

[goldsaint13]

Well tbh, I haven't actully seen that many ppl claiming this. I haven't been on many DB forums aside from this one lately, but it was only here that I encountered so many who believed Base Sayajin>Piccolo.

Base Saiyan > Piccolo (fused with Kami and trained in the RoSaT and before the Tenkaichi) is totally absurd!!! Piccolo is stronger than early SSJ and possibly close to Ascended SSJs...

There's way more Base Saiya-jins > Piccolo believers elsewhere, in places like Neoseeker. A large group of people over there even believe that Base Gotenks is > SSjin 3 Goku (which is the main reason I personally think Gotenks is maybe the most overrated character in the entire series.)

Well, yes, that's totally exaggerated... Gotenks could even be a lot stronger than Goku confronting them in the same transformation... But not at this extent..

[Piccolo Daimao]

Broli, Kid Boo and GT Goku. Although GT Goku may partly or wholly be the fault of GT itself. But whatever.

[goldsaint13]

Kid Boo

Kid Boo is actually as much overated as SSJ3 Goku... They just go alongside... Many people don't accept SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Boo to be their stronger equivalents...

[Piccolo Daimao]

Kid Boo

Kid Boo is actually as much overated as SSJ3 Goku... They just go alongside... Many people don't accept SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Boo to be their stronger equivalents...

Yeah, probably. I don't particularly know nor care about whether or not SSj3 Goku is overrated. But the whole Boo thing is a massive clusterfuck. When I read the manga, it was clear to me that Kid Boo was nowhere near as strong as some other people claim he is. But frankly, I'm done with that. I don't even want to talk about Boo arc power discussions. People can believe what they want.

[goldsaint13]

Yeah, probably. I don't particularly know nor care about whether or not SSj3 Goku is overrated. But the whole Boo thing is a massive clusterfuck. When I read the manga, it was clear to me that Kid Boo was nowhere near as strong as some other people claim he is. But frankly, I'm done with that. I don't even want to talk about Boo arc power discussions. People can believe what they want.

Well, it's not that hard to prove that Kid Boo is weaker than any Boo except Fat Boo... It's Goku's reaction that makes things clear...

VS Super Boo: "Noooo, we'll be killed without Fusion, we have no chance!"

VS Kid Boo: "Thank God... Now I can fight one on one!"




But the difference between Super Boo and Kid Boo is demostrated by the difference between Gotenks and Goku... It's the same difference since the two couples both fight equally...


About that difference...


Goku would die against Fat Boo as SSJ2... Gotenks was supposed to fight him as a SSJ1...


There's not much more to add...

[Piccolo Daimao]

Yeah, that's true. But some people decide to pick out certain quotes and say that this implies this or that, and I've heard enough theories that I just got sick of it all. If people want to believe that Kid Boo's stronger than Super Boo, then fine. But I just wish that people, on both sides of the argument, would stop trying to enforce their opinion on people that are equally stubborn in trying to "convert" everyone into their opinion.

[goldsaint13]

Yeah, that's true. But some people decide to pick out certain quotes and say that this implies this or that, and I've heard enough theories that I just got sick of it all. If people want to believe that Kid Boo's stronger than Super Boo, then fine. But I just wish that people, on both sides of the argument, would stop trying to enforce their opinion on people that are equally stubborn in trying to "convert" everyone into their opinion.

They mostly play on the fact of SSJ3 Goku supposed hidden power not usable as a living being...
So they think that Gotenks SSJ3 is stronger than Goku SSJ3 against Fat Buu but not than the one against Kid Buu at his supposed and never shown fabled full power...

But this theory is fallen since we know that SSJ3 is simply SSJ1 x8... And since it's impossible to say that SSJ1 Goku = SSJ1 Gotenks not to mention > SSJ1 Gotenks, then it's impossible to say the same for both SSJ3 forms...

This does nothing else than lowering Kid Buu's power even more, because that supposed SSJ3 Goku full strength can be nothing more than his full SSJ2 x4 power... It means that against Fat Buu he was using, let's say, a x2, and against Kid Buu a maybe x3... He was just trying to charge up the full x4... But Gotenks keeps his way above position...

[dbgtFO]

But I just wish that people, on both sides of the argument, would stop trying to enforce their opinion on people that are equally stubborn in trying to "convert" everyone into their opinion.

I just wish people would stop making shit up honestly, I mean that's like the only way to counter Goku's comment about being unable to match Super Buu's strength.

The whole deal is complicated further by Gotenks not receiving any love from the guidebooks. Poor Gotenks, most underrated fighter in the Buu Arc, even by guidebooks

Joking aside Kid Buu and SSJ 3 Goku really are the most overrated characters, but I do wonder if anime-specific guidebooks have included all the: "Goku < Super Buu < Gohan < Super Buu(Gotenks) < Super Buu(Gohan) < ?GOKU? ~ Kid Buu" nonsense, considering that in DBZ Sparking Neo's character information, it includes the fact that Gotenks-Buu was the strongest Buu yet. And they don't mention anything specific about Kid Buu like what the anime did.

[Super Vegito]

Broly, his power is maximum.

[goldsaint13]

I just wish people would stop making shit up honestly, I mean that's like the only way to counter Goku's comment about being unable to match Super Buu's strength.

Would it be only that...
There are other proofs that Goku is weaker than Super Buu, maybe even more incisive...

Of course we have to consider the manga... In the anime there is the worst shit possible...

The whole deal is complicated further by Gotenks not receiving any love from the guidebooks. Poor Gotenks, most underrated fighter in the Buu Arc, even by guidebooks

What are the sentences about him in the Guidebooks, beside the one saying he surpassed Vegeta and the others (including Goku ) after the training into the RoSaT?


Anyway, Guidebooks have done enough for Gotenks saying that SSJ3 is simply SSJ1 x8... Since there's no way Goku could ever dream to match SSJ1 Gotenks as SSJ1, then the argument is gone for good...

Joking aside Kid Buu and SSJ 3 Goku really are the most overrated characters, but I do wonder if anime-specific guidebooks have included all the: "Goku < Super Buu < Gohan < Super Buu(Gotenks) < Super Buu(Gohan) < ?GOKU? ~ Kid Buu" nonsense, considering that in DBZ Sparking Neo's character information, it includes the fact that Gotenks-Buu was the strongest Buu yet. And they don't mention anything specific about Kid Buu like what the anime did.

Some people working at Toei Animation are 24-hours-a-day drunk I suppose...

Bibidi could even create an army of 100 Kid Buus and they are not putting a scratch on Super Buu(Gohan) neither in a million years!!!

[Cipher]

Broly, his power is maximum.

Broly's sort of in a unique place in the Dragon Ball fandom. On the one hand, you have the Youtube crowd making ridiculous claims about him being stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku, or Vegetto, or what have you.

But in response to that, I feel like he's constantly underrated among places like Daizex. There's a rather large consensus here that Broly is easily beneath Perfect Cell or any Super Saiyan 2, and I've never subscribed to that being so clear. I think it's very easy to make a case for him being on par with Super Saiyan 2 level characters, at least. (And not to get into the whole Gohan in Movie 10 thing, but I'm pretty sure some design sheets have come along that make a very good argument for him indeed being Super Saiyan 2.)

[goldsaint13]

I think it's very easy to make a case for him being on par with Super Saiyan 2 level characters, at least.

At best he is on SSJ2 level...

(And not to get into the whole Gohan in Movie 10 thing, but I'm pretty sure some design sheets have come along that make a very good argument for him indeed being Super Saiyan 2.)

Gohan may be a SSJ2 but he said that Broly have gotten stronger since the last time... And that is a weakened SSJ2 Gohan... If he would have faced the SSJ2 Gohan of the previous movie (having made him angry), I have the feeling Broly would have been ass-kicked...