Is it strange listening to two Nozawa voices talk?

[Saiga]

I think this has gone a bit off topic. I made this thread to ask people if they found scenes where Goku and Gohan or Goku and Tullece (who all pretty much have the same voice tone) are talking to each other a bit strange/off-putting. Not whether they think Nowaza is a good voice for Goku or who their favorite English Goku is.

Ahh... my bad ringworm. Sorry about that.

Yeah, I almost always find it off putting whenever one person voices two characters talking too each other. I noticed it a fair bit with Goku/Gohan.

[OutlawTorn]

I think Nozawa is more overrated than "jarring" to be honest. What people like is all subjective so there will be the group which loves Nozawa, as well as the group who hate her with a passion. I don't particularly like her voice as Goku and the myriad of other Saiyan characters she voices, either because they are Goku's children or because they look like Goku. That's when it gets ludicrous.

The aspects of her performance I detest are whenever she's screeching or making those choking sounds while trying to approximate intensity. I can deal with her normal speaking voice, not that I particularly like it. Think of how Pauline Newstone or Linda Young sounds as Frieza. That could be an apt comparison of how Nozawa sounds as Goku, etc. especially when they're grown up.

Rukura @ Right on, FUNimation fans tend to call Son's original voice as "Goku's Japanese voice is gay". So childish.

Thanks for the over-generalization. For what it's worth, even though it seems to be an accepted substitute for "lame" and the like, I would never use the word "gay" in such a manner. Please don't judge all FUNimation fans from the idiots who spew their misspelled insults on YouTube, just like FUNimation fans shouldn't judge all fans of the original by those who simply spout back with "Nozawa is the original and was handpicked by Toriyama! Schemmel sucks!!!!" (disclaimer: not an actual quote, it's ridiculously over the top on purpose) but do so in katakana just to feel superior. (okay, that was snark. I apologize.)

All in all, I agree with those who have said she really shouldn't have continued to voice the male characters once they became adults. Would people have been pleased if Colleen Clickenbeard continued to voice Gohan had Kai continued through the Buu saga?

I agree with this sentiment. It annoyed me when I first watched the English version of Kai and Piccolo sounded identical to Zoro in One Piece.

Why should that be a problem with Kai? Sabat's Piccolo predated his Zoro, thus Sabat's Kai Piccolo was a natural progression from when he initially took over the role. At least he's not voicing Dende or all of the other prominent Namekians with the same or slightly altered voices.

For me, it's kinda the opposite, when I heard Paul Donovan as the voice of Matrix in ReBoot, using pretty much the same voice he used for Graveheart in Shadow Raiders, I thought it was cool that a voice I was familiar with had been used again.

For the love of Kaio, I made this topic to ask people if they found scenes where Goku and another Nowaza character talk to each other sounds strange to listen to since they have the same voice. Not if they think Nowaza is a good voice for Goku.

Sorry. I cannot say, actually, as the episodes I watched in Japanese were some of the Trunks episodes when Goku returns from Yardrat so it would either just be Goku in the scene or Gohan. All in all, a versatile actor could perform a large section of a scene, or an entire scene, as different characters and it wouldn't be obvious. Scott McNeil did it quite often in Beast Wars, whether it was Dinobot and Rattrap verbally sparring, or a conversation between Silverbolt and Dinobot/Rattrap. Then there's Waspinator... if you know they're all Scott McNeil, you could pick up minute similarities but you could have an episode focusing on just those four characters as they are four separate and distinct voices which are only similar because they were produced by the same actor.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

Let's see, do I find Nozawa voicing Goku, Gohan, Tullece, etc. when they interact with one another jarring?

No, can't say I do. I'm so used to it, I don't even notice.

[Ringworm128]

Yes. Especially late in the series when you can get Nozawa talking to Nozawa with Nozawa chiming in and then Nozawa punches Nozawa and Nozawa and we get Nozawa and Nozawa screaming while Nozawa Nozawa Nozawa Nozawa Nozawa Nozawa Nozawa Nozawa Nozawa.


bwaaaak

Yep, thank God FUNi's dub avoids having actors talking to themselves.

Uhhhm, Chris Sabat....?

In defence of Sabat he at least put different tones to his character voices.

[Majin Buu]

Ok, I've noticed that a lot of the Nozawa haters seem to think that she voices adult Goku the same way she does kid Goku (IE - like a 12 year old), which is incorrect (though I don't expect people who don't extensively watch the Japanese version to be able to tell the difference as I've not seen one Nozawa hater point that out).

She plays adult Goku with a lower pitch and kid Goku with a higher pitch. Put adult Goku's voice on kid Goku and it sounds weird, because it's not really the voice of a child. Her adult Goku voice is similar her kid Goku voice, but it's most definitely not a voice that would come from a child.

So no, adult Goku does not sound the same as his 12 year old self. They only sound the same to people that don't really watch the Japanese version.

[Rocketman]

Also she makes Vegetto sound terrible.

[Codarik]

Also she makes Vegetto sound terrible.

This.and Gogeta. It's the only thing I don't like about her Goku.

[Kendamu]

Ok, I've noticed that a lot of the Nozawa haters seem to think that she voices adult Goku the same way she does kid Goku (IE - like a 12 year old), which is incorrect (though I don't expect people who don't extensively watch the Japanese version to be able to tell the difference as I've not seen one Nozawa hater point that out).

She plays adult Goku with a lower pitch and kid Goku with a higher pitch. Put adult Goku's voice on kid Goku and it sounds weird, because it's not really the voice of a child. Her adult Goku voice is similar her kid Goku voice, but it's most definitely not a voice that would come from a child.

So no, adult Goku does not sound the same as his 12 year old self. They only sound the same to people that don't really watch the Japanese version.

This is why I've stayed out of the majority of the conversations about this. Often people who dislike Nozawa don't often watch the Japanese version enough to know that Nozawa sounds different as kid Goku and adult Goku the same way people who dislike the US dub don't seem to know exactly when Schemmel finally learned to play Goku half decently.

Nobody wants to watch the other version. They just wanna complain about it. Often on YouTube.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Goku is all about personality over physicality

This has been asked before on here (I think)...but where does this notion come from? it almost seems like something fabricated entirely to justify Nozawa being in the role.

I agree. When I think of Goku, I think of adventure, light-mindedness and great power. Nothing about physicality; whatever that means.

[DBZ Mick]

There is a clear difference to Nozawa's voice when Goku's older than when he is younger.

Listen to him in the beginning of Dragonball and then the 23rd Budokai.

He clearly sounds older and she does a great job.

[Majin Buu]

This has been asked before on here (I think)...but where does this notion come from? it almost seems like something fabricated entirely to justify Nozawa being in the role.

And it almost seems like you're making up silly claims in an effort to discredit the other side.

It comes from the notion that Goku's personality is what ultimately defines his character, not the fact that he's a tall, muscular guy.

[jjgp1112]

Ok, I've noticed that a lot of the Nozawa haters seem to think that she voices adult Goku the same way she does kid Goku (IE - like a 12 year old), which is incorrect (though I don't expect people who don't extensively watch the Japanese version to be able to tell the difference as I've not seen one Nozawa hater point that out).

She plays adult Goku with a lower pitch and kid Goku with a higher pitch. Put adult Goku's voice on kid Goku and it sounds weird, because it's not really the voice of a child. Her adult Goku voice is similar her kid Goku voice, but it's most definitely not a voice that would come from a child.

So no, adult Goku does not sound the same as his 12 year old self. They only sound the same to people that don't really watch the Japanese version.

I didn't say he still sounds like his 12 year old self. I aid his voice sounds like that of a 12 year old in general.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I didn't say he still sounds like his 12 year old self. I aid his voice sounds like that of a 12 year old in general.

If you have heard a 12 year-old talking like that, the 12 year-old has a serious problem. No real human should sound like that.

[Perfect]

I'm not seeing any different arguments that I haven't already seen in previous threads. It feels like a dead horse is being repeatedly stabbed in the heart. I've never had a problem with her voice for any of the characters she's play'd in Dragon Ball. I've also never had the "I wanna stab my eardrums" problem either, even when Gohan and Goku are screaming or whatever.

I didn't even find it jarring when I first saw the series in Japanese. If anything, what sounded odd was Vegeta's voice to me. I was so used to Sabat's "Grrr me Vegeta" dialect that I didn't know what to expect.

[MCDaveG]

Nozawa is goddess of voice acting!!!! Uaaaah!!
Don't you dare speaking in bad manner about her!

[dbboxkaifan]

In defence of Sabat he at least put different tones to his character voices.

Sabat sounds the same on all his characters, at least Nozawa makes an effort to change her voice for the different roles she plays.

[Majin Buu]

I didn't say he still sounds like his 12 year old self. I aid his voice sounds like that of a 12 year old in general.

And the difference is? He sounded like a 12 year old when he was 12, he doesn't sound like that as an adult. Your sentiment is still incorrect, the semantics don't change that.

Not to mention I believe I did say:

Her adult Goku voice is similar to her kid Goku voice, but it's most definitely not a voice that would come from a child.

My point still stands. No 12 year old sounds like adult Goku.

[jjgp1112]

12 year old, 13 year old, whatever. My point is, I think he sounds like a kid every time I decide to switch over to the Japanese version, and is precisely why I can usually only stomach a few minutes before switching back.

[VegettoEX]

Like I mentioned earlier, I'm seeing the same batch of people tossing out the same arguments and complaints and analogies that they keep tossing out in every other thread. Of which there have been plenty. In the last week.

Again, I have no interest in stifling conversation, but there's not actually a conversation going on here -- it's just more shouting into the void from the same people.

I'll keep an eye out for the next couple posts, but I'm mostly thinking about just locking the thread unless someone brings something new to the table. Getting a tad ridiculous, and not what this community is about.

[Majin Buu]

I'll keep an eye out for the next couple posts, but I'm mostly thinking about just locking the thread unless someone brings something new to the table. Getting a tad ridiculous, and not what this community is about.

I've taken part in this so I'm just as guilty, but you might as well just lock it now. I don't think that new element is going to come because no one is willing to budge from their repeatedly stated viewpoints, and those viewpoints are at the heart of this whole matter.