Did Cartoon Network finish showing the "Ultimate Uncut Ed."?

[Pokewhiz7]

Eh, I guess you're right then.

[Choujin Daizenshuu]

If this were true, one would expect FMA to have failed miserably... and it didn't by a longshot.

I doubt airing it uncut had very much to do with why the UUC DVDs were cancelled.

Here's the thing: FMA was geared towards anime fans. DBZ was geared towards the mainstream public. The mainstream public are NOT going to buy DVDs of something that are overpriced to them. Anime fans will because they understand that the industry needs support. FUNimation knows damn well that they can make more money off of the general public with DBZ than with the hardcore anime fans.

Also take into account that should you search forum archives related to the CN broadcast back in 2005-2006, you would have found posts of people who bragged about DVRing the episodes of DBZ so they wouldn't have to buy the overpriced discs. Since everyone DVRed the episodes, it was the final nail in the coffin for sales of the Ultimate Uncuts.

For people who paid $29.99 US a disc or $34.99 CDN a disc before taxes for the sake of finally getting the entire first season uncut, it was a real kick in the pants. It also doesn't help matters that FUNimation never apologized to the fans for the inconvenience as a result of the cancellation.

[VegettoEX]

Since everyone DVRed the episodes, it was the final nail in the coffin for sales of the Ultimate Uncuts.

I think you're grossly over-estimating folks' general laziness with regard to recording things for long-term viewing, and grossly under-estimating the upcoming behemoth that was the orange brick remaster project.

[Ashura]

The average viewer who watched DBZ on TV wasn't likely to buy the DVDs to begin with... they were watching it on TV for free. Funi probably hoped some of them picked it up because it was on TV, but likely didn't expect droves. If it didn't air on TV it's more likely that they would've sold less.

Also, the people here who DVR'd the show aren't the general public. The people here are more inclined to buy the show (or bitch about the prices) because this is a niche fan-oriented Dragonball website.

I would venture to say that the DVD release of DBZ didn't become a pickup for casuals until the orange bricks started coming out at cheap cheap prices in Wal Mart. As much mass-market appeal as DBZ has, up until then it was most easily found somewhere in the deep dark recesses of Suncoasts and Best Buys... available in a million different volumes that were hard to figure out the order of.

It's more likely that the release pattern itself -- especially during the time of the anime bust -- did in the line in moreso than any airing on TV.

[Choujin Daizenshuu]

I think you're grossly over-estimating folks' general laziness with regard to recording things for long-term viewing, and grossly under-estimating the upcoming behemoth that was the orange brick remaster project.

The general consensus across the web is that the uncut broadcast and the DVRing of said broadcast was a big fat nail in the coffin of the Ultimate Uncuts. I'm not speaking for myself here.

The average viewer who watched DBZ on TV wasn't likely to buy the DVDs to begin with... they were watching it on TV for free. Funi probably hoped some of them picked it up because it was on TV, but likely didn't expect droves. If it didn't air on TV it's more likely that they would've sold less.

First of all, the show ran uncut! Okay? Un-cut! An uncut airing of any show in the day of DVR is a bad business move! Period. Whoever decided it was a grand idea to make the move obviously read too much of Eric Bischoff's, Controversy Creates Cash and didn't sit and think of the resulting fallout that this move could occur. Second, you're contradicting your own statement by saying that the average viewer who watched DBZ on TV wasn't likely to buy the DVDs to begin with only to then say that if the uncut broadcast didn't air on TV, the DVDs would've sold less. How would the DVDs had sold less if the average joe doesn't buy them to begin with? Third, the decision to air the anime uncut was a clear and total violation of Cartoon Network's Standards and Practices. The fact that it aired in a slot before Adult Swim is completely irrelevant. I'm still amazed to this day that the network didn't lose ad sponsors or get a barrage of angry phone calls from the uncut broadcast of Dragon Ball Z!

Also, the people here who DVR'd the show aren't the general public. The people here are more inclined to buy the show (or bitch about the prices) because this is a niche fan-oriented Dragonball website.

You've completely missed the point of my post. I was referring to fan sites across the web, not just DaizEX.

I would venture to say that the DVD release of DBZ didn't become a pickup for casuals until the orange bricks started coming out at cheap cheap prices in Wal Mart. As much mass-market appeal as DBZ has, up until then it was most easily found somewhere in the deep dark recesses of Suncoasts and Best Buys... available in a million different volumes that were hard to figure out the order of.

C'mon Ashura, seriously? I severely DOUBT that bad stocking practices by Joe Schmoe who works at Best Buy or Suncoast played a factor into the cancellation of the Ultimate Uncuts! If fans wanted a show, they will look for it.

It's more likely that the release pattern itself -- especially during the time of the anime bust -- did in the line in moreso than any airing on TV.

So then, everything just boiled down to the whole anime economy going bust in 2006? That was the whole reason for the cancellation?

[Ashura]

Unless an official source says otherwise, most likely.

[Choujin Daizenshuu]

So that's the only reason we have? Economy goes bad, fuck the supporters because their money doesn't matter? Unbelievable!

So in the end, it left the supporting fans with an unfinished release. However, I can't understand why FUNimation never took measures to work out a compromise with the fans who bought the UUCs such as making the last few volumes print-on-demand or offer a trade-in discount towards the Orange Bricks. It could've helped the company save face.

And because of this move, I will continue to roll my eyes at anyone who still thinks that this show prints money. If it printed money, this should've been bust-proof.

[El Diabeetus]

I've seen that clip of Vic talking about it before Kai, so I always wondered that when I saw that clip from that convention. But, Butta's such a minor character that it doesn't really seem to matter who voices him. I forgot what Sabat's sounds like, but, I think it sounded close to Vic's. It seems interchangeable, really.

But, yeah I think they did finish the run. But, then again I stopped keeping track after Namek when it was on TV. At the time I just found it surprising that Vegeta, etc. was saying Damn on the TV version back when it was airing.