Power of SSJ Gogeta

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Re: Power of SSJ Gogeta

Post by FNF » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:28 pm

Well base Gokan(potara)>SSjin Gokan(dance) is basically stated in the manga so if you apply the same logic to Vegetto and Gogeta, then base Vegetto is always going to be stronger than SSjin Gogeta and that's assuming Gogeta gets a 'rival' boost.

I think when you combine that with Gohan-Boo saying a fusion between Vegeta and Goku wouldn't definitely not be able to beat him then it could easily be something like;

SSjin Vegetto>>Gohan-Boo>/<base Vegetto>base Gokan(potara)>SSjin3 Gogeta(yes, as crazy as it sounds because Gohan, Evil Boo, etc etc had all witnessed SSjin3 and knew its power)>SSjin Gokan(dance)~Gotenks-Boo etc .

I prefer just to go with;

SSjin Vegetto>>Gohan-Boo~base Vegetto>base Gokan(potara)>SSjin Gogeta>SSjin Gokan~Gotenks-Boo out of convenience (ie without making Gogeta look like a complete weakling).
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Re: Power of SSJ Gogeta

Post by Fox666 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:02 pm

FNF wrote:Well base Gokan(potara)>SSjin Gokan(dance) is basically stated in the manga
I think you are over-analyzing it.

Goku asked Rou Kaioshin if he should transform in Super Saiyan from the beggining, and Rou Kaioshin simply said he would be fine without transforming. Goku-Gohan fusion doesn't need to be stronger than his non-Potara Super Saiyan counter-part, only stronger than Majin Boo.

But even if we assume that was true, this is a completely different case of Vegetto since Gohan doesn't need to transform in Super Saiyan anymore.

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Re: Power of SSJ Gogeta

Post by Beji » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:28 pm

VegettoEX wrote:"Ten" refers exactly to the number 10, while "tens" is a vague term that could mean 20, 30, 40, etc. -- multiples of the number 10 without being exact.
Is it really that open? That makes it even more likely that the fusion dance would be more beneficial to weaker race.

(75+75)X40=6000

75x75=5625

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Re: Power of SSJ Gogeta

Post by Bussani » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:32 pm

Beji wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:"Ten" refers exactly to the number 10, while "tens" is a vague term that could mean 20, 30, 40, etc. -- multiples of the number 10 without being exact.
Is it really that open? That makes it even more likely that the fusion dance would be more beneficial to weaker race.

(75+75)X40=6000

75x75=5625
It's not a math equation for fusion. It's literally just a statement of how strong Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta is, and a vague one at that.

And yeah, "tens" is very open. It's like saying "apples". It could be two apples or two thousand apples for all we know.
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Re: Power of SSJ Gogeta

Post by Fox666 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:42 pm

Herms wrote:I don't know about regular Yi Xing Long ("Syn Shenron"?), but Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenlong) says in GT that he's over ten times as strong as his regular form, and even his regular form seemed stronger than Goku. I think that might be part of where they get Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta being "several tens of times" stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku from. Regular Yi Xing Long is stronger than SSj4 Goku, Super Yi Xing Long is over ten times stronger than that, and SSj4 Gogeta is a whole lot stronger than even him. Put that together and you get SSj4 Gogeta being a whole lot stronger than ten times as strong as SSj4 Goku.

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Re: Power of SSJ Gogeta

Post by FNF » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:53 am

Fox666 wrote:
FNF wrote:Well base Gokan(potara)>SSjin Gokan(dance) is basically stated in the manga
I think you are over-analyzing it.

Goku asked Rou Kaioshin if he should transform in Super Saiyan from the beggining, and Rou Kaioshin simply said he would be fine without transforming. Goku-Gohan fusion doesn't need to be stronger than his non-Potara Super Saiyan counter-part, only stronger than Majin Boo.

But even if we assume that was true, this is a completely different case of Vegetto since Gohan doesn't need to transform in Super Saiyan anymore.
No, Goku starts thinking he won't be able to beat Boo after Elder Kaioshin says they shouldn't fuse as SSjins (that part is missing in the strength checker) so the difference between the dance and the potara is made clear. Base Gokan (potara) is waaa~y stronger than Gotenks-Boo yet Goku doesn't even want to consider fighting Gotenks-Boo in base.

I'm not over-analyzing. I am just analyzing ;)
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Re: Power of SSJ Gogeta

Post by Fox666 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:51 am

And again, that only means his regular form is stronger than Majin Boo.

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