Worst case of degenerated Dragon Box Colours

[Pokewhiz7]

For what it's worth, from the Kai Dragon Book.

Though the guide does say that it's not good to compare print and video.

[eledoremassis02]

They said "color cast". You went in and manually edited individual colors, which wasn't what they were referring to, unless the term "color cast" was incorrectly used.

Not only that, but Kei showed me some examples of scans with the actual backgrounds, and the sky is supposed to be a duller blue. You need to have a decent source to base the colors off of, rather than making them up as you go along.

Well, wrong on my part. But I removed the green color cast only on Goku and I got a bit more blue out of it than you did. What program are you using?

True, but a lot of people font have access to such material. All I have is the the TV broadcast screen cap and it was pretty close for just making up colors (with the exception of the skin color) lol. Plus there are a lot of things that can effect the color, such as color correction on the film, analog changing colors (slightly) and age of film/VHS.

Thanks Pokewhiz7! The Z screen cap looks like the Dragon Box (plausible) lol. Hasn't there been some conversation about the Kai screen cap's color being off?

[Metalwario64]

What program are you using?

Photoshop. I used the "remove color cast" tool.

[DHM211]

[eledoremassis02]

What program are you using?

Photoshop. I used the "remove color cast" tool.

What tool is that? I also looked up how to remove color cast. And there appears to be multiple ways. But they all come down to removing a color that has hindered the photo. So I guess my method from before was okay because it removed all unwanted green? I just used a method I learned in photography class years ago.

Awesome DHM211!

It's amazing to see how much color differences there are! GT being the worst lol

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

What tool is that?

Like he said, "Remove Color Cast", which is located under "Enhance" and then "Adjust Color", at least that's where it is in Photoshop Elements 8. I'm not sure which version of P.S. Metalwario64 has.

When you select it, you just click on an area of the image that should be white, and it removes the unwanted color tint.

[eledoremassis02]

What tool is that?

Like he said, "Remove Color Cast", which is located under "Enhance" and then "Adjust Color", at least that's where it is in Photoshop Elements 8. I'm not sure which version of P.S. Metalwario64 has.

I'm working off of CS3 which doesn't have that feature which is why I had no clue what he was talking about lol.. which is also why the tutorials online lead me to what I eventually did anyway..

[Metalwario64]

I use Elements 4, which is from 2005 or so I believe.

It doesn't matter though. If you can do so by manually adjusting the RGB values, then you can achieve the same results. It's just more time consuming, as the color cast remover is an automated version of that process.

[eledoremassis02]

I use Elements 4, which is from 2005 or so I believe.

It doesn't matter though. If you can do so by manually adjusting the RGB values, then you can achieve the same results. It's just more time consuming, as the color cast remover is an automated version of that process.

I rather do automated anyways. Did you use automated color correction to remove the red from the Dbox photo (where you compared it to GT snap shot)? Cause that came out pretty good.

[Metalwario64]

I use Elements 4, which is from 2005 or so I believe.

It doesn't matter though. If you can do so by manually adjusting the RGB values, then you can achieve the same results. It's just more time consuming, as the color cast remover is an automated version of that process.

I rather do automated anyways. Did you use automated color correction to remove the red from the Dbox photo (where you compared it to GT snap shot)? Cause that came out pretty good.

Yes. When it comes to editing footage, I only use automated processes when removing color casts. I only have to manually edit the individual colors, and for obvious reasons.

[eledoremassis02]

I use Elements 4, which is from 2005 or so I believe.

It doesn't matter though. If you can do so by manually adjusting the RGB values, then you can achieve the same results. It's just more time consuming, as the color cast remover is an automated version of that process.

I rather do automated anyways. Did you use automated color correction to remove the red from the Dbox photo (where you compared it to GT snap shot)? Cause that came out pretty good.

Yes. When it comes to editing footage, I only use automated processes when removing color casts. I only have to manually edit the individual colors, and for obvious reasons.

Could you help me out on something? I tried using Dbox video and make broadcast color. However I couldn't get all the aged red out.. also don't mind the poor color change edits lol http://youtu.be/mSSTpP7L858

Here examples on how I wanted them to look (Dbox broadcast color overlay):

[Metalwario64]

What do you mean aged red? I only see something like that appear a second after each scene... Are you manually changing the colors of each scene? If so, that's not the way to go about this. All film of every episodes (minus next episode previews if I recall) is stored on one reel, so they are all consistently "aged".

It looks like each scene looks fine, but a split second after each scene change they get messed up.
Here's the best (and only, really) tutorial for color correcting the Dragon Boxes.

Actually, after looking at your post again... You aren't just overlaying the footage from kei17's rips over the Dragon Boxes are you? That's not a good way to go about this. It retains so many video artifacts like color bleeding and blotches, which I can see on your images. You really should follow the tutorial I linked to above.

Also, if by "aged red" you mean the red tint on the blacks in the final two shots, that means you have too much red in the darker red channel of the RGB. Just darken the lower red levels.

[eledoremassis02]

What do you mean aged red? I only see something like that appear a second after each scene... Are you manually changing the colors of each scene? If so, that's not the way to go about this. All film of every episodes (minus next episode previews if I recall) is stored on one reel, so they are all consistently "aged".

It looks like each scene looks fine, but a split second after each scene change they get messed up.
Here's the best (and only, really) tutorial for color correcting the Dragon Boxes.

Actually, after looking at your post again... You aren't just overlaying the footage from kei17's rips over the Dragon Boxes are you? That's not a good way to go about this. It retains so many video artifacts like color bleeding and blotches, which I can see on your images. You really should follow the tutorial I linked to above.

Also, if by "aged red" you mean the red tint on the blacks in the final two shots, that means you have too much red in the darker red channel of the RGB. Just darken the lower red levels.

Thanks for the info! It's a big help. For the video, I didn't overlap the video but just tried to emulate the color ^^