How did Bardock go back in time in Episode of Bardock?

[Sebastian]

How about this:
Bardock isn't actually sent back in time, he's just having a strange little hallucination before Freeza's attack completely incinerates him.

[Hitiro]

Muffin Button triggered by the explosion. That was on his scouter, or nearby character's.

His survival doesn't make sense. Pure Boo would get teleported to different time if Episode of Bardock was canon, since they died in kinda similar manner.

Not necessarily, planet Vegeta has at least 10 times the gravity of Earth so gravitational energy might be a defining factor. Because, as we know, intense gravitational points affect time in general. I bolded the "at least" bit if your going to say that Kaio's planet was blown up and it didn't send them back in time but we don't know how much more planet Vegeta's gravity is compared to the Kaio's planet.

[Ringworm128]

My personal fanon is that it has something to do with that time travel dude from DBO.

[Hitiro]

My personal fanon is that it has something to do with that time travel dude from DBO.

Do you mean the guy who gives you the Time travel missions? Because that is an alternate version of Future Trunks in which Piccolo is alive, Piccolo and Dende warn Trunks of Miira. Trunks then forms a, sort of police force, called the Time Patrol. He then jumps 200 years into the future to enlist warriors in which to help him stop Miira.

[Gyt Kaliba]

My personal fanon is that it has something to do with that time travel dude from DBO.

Do you mean the guy who gives you the Time travel missions? Because that is an alternate version of Future Trunks in which Piccolo is alive, Piccolo and Dende warn Trunks of Miira. Trunks then forms a, sort of police force, called the Time Patrol. He then jumps 200 years into the future to enlist warriors in which to help him stop Miira.

I could be wrong, but wasn't there something to do with Bardock being brought back from the past in DBO?



I assume he meant something to do with whoever did that, though the DBO Bardock there still can't go SS I don't think.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Miira. He means Miira. It was him who saved Bardock from Freeza.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

My personal fanon is that it has something to do with that time travel dude from DBO.

Do you mean the guy who gives you the Time travel missions? Because that is an alternate version of Future Trunks in which Piccolo is alive, Piccolo and Dende warn Trunks of Miira. Trunks then forms a, sort of police force, called the Time Patrol. He then jumps 200 years into the future to enlist warriors in which to help him stop Miira.

Time Patrol Trunks is the same Future Trunks we know from the manga. Piccolo & Dende are from the normal timeline the manga takes place, but 200 years forward. They are still alive because they are Namekians, and Namekians can live for more than 300 years. We haven't seen Dende yet, but we do see an aged Piccolo.

I could be wrong, but wasn't there something to do with Bardock being brought back from the past in DBO?

Yes. Miira, the main villain, traveled back in time and saved Bardock from Freeza's attack. He then brainwashed him with that mask, but the mask broke in a battle. Bardock supposedly self-destructed, supposedly killing himself & Miira. But they are both still alive. And no, Bardock can't turn into a Super Saiyan in DBO.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

And no, Bardock can't turn into a Super Saiyan in DBO.

Probably, but not confirmed. Only the players have been shown as Super Saiyans so far. None of the original characters have displayed the form as of yet, including Trunks. Though there are more than a couple of times when he could have used it because he was having trouble in the story. It's almost like Toei is writing the game's plot...

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It's almost like Toei is writing the game's plot...

Toei, Bandai Namco... what's the difference?

[Hitiro]

And no, Bardock can't turn into a Super Saiyan in DBO.

Probably, but not confirmed. Only the players have been shown as Super Saiyans so far. None of the original characters have displayed the form as of yet, including Trunks. Though there are more than a couple of times when he could have used it because he was having trouble in the story. It's almost like Toei is writing the game's plot...

It can't be the same Trunks because that would mean Trunks had to have gone back to the main timeline to be warned by Piccolo and Dende. And the timeline says that main timeline Piccolo and Dende of the original timeline only find out about Miira in age 1,000. But Future Trunks arrives to this time already knowing about Miira's invasion. Somebody within his own timeline and time period had to have informed him. If it was Piccolo or Dende then he must be an alternate version of Future Trunks and the way it played out must be different in his timeline, or Piccolo and Dende found out about Miira while he was time travelling and warned Trunks about it.

Time Patrol Trunks is the same Future Trunks we know from the manga. Piccolo & Dende are from the normal timeline the manga takes place, but 200 years forward. They are still alive because they are Namekians, and Namekians can live for more than 300 years. We haven't seen Dende yet, but we do see an aged Piccolo.

If it is an alternate timeline of Future Trunks then he may never of got SSJ? If Piccolo is still alive in his timeline then after the others died he probably merged with Kami and then he was probably the one who killed the Androids and disposed of Cell. Anyway, apparently Akira Toriyama has helped a lot in the creation of this timeline, or so I heard.

[dbzfan7]

i just think its unexplained since the naho ooishi probably couldn't even think of a reason so she left it up to the readers like us to make up theories.

[Shinsa]

lol i enjoyed reading the responses in this thread. Pretty funny.

I just take it for what it is....i liked the animation, it was nostalgic and fun!

apart from that....it was pretty horrid and made no sense at all!

I dont take these new specials or episodes seriously because they are pretty stupid (vegeta having a brother....wtf) however i like them for what they are and i dont consider them canon.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Toei, Bandai Namco... what's the difference?

As far as I'm aware, Namco Bandai isn't the one in control of the plot, the developer, NTL Inc. is. Namdai and Shueisha may have some things they want included and other things they can't do, but I doubt deciding when Trunks can and can't transform into a Super Saiyan in the story is one of them. lol

It can't be the same Trunks because that would mean Trunks had to have gone back to the main timeline to be warned by Piccolo and Dende. And the timeline says that main timeline Piccolo and Dende of the original timeline only find out about Miira in age 1,000. But Future Trunks arrives to this time already knowing about Miira's invasion. Somebody within his own timeline and time period had to have informed him. If it was Piccolo or Dende then he must be an alternate version of Future Trunks and the way it played out must be different in his timeline, or Piccolo and Dende found out about Miira while he was time travelling and warned Trunks about it.
If it is an alternate timeline of Future Trunks then he may never of got SSJ? If Piccolo is still alive in his timeline then after the others died he probably merged with Kami and then he was probably the one who killed the Androids and disposed of Cell. Anyway, apparently Akira Toriyama has helped a lot in the creation of this timeline, or so I heard.

It was confirmed early on in the prerelease information that Time Patrol Trunks is the same future incarnation from in the manga, from shortly after the Cell Games and the saving of his own timeline. No alternate anythings, all the Z Senshi are still dead in his timeline.

We're never told how Trunks learns about Miira. Maybe they invaded Earth in his timeline, or he encountered them when time traveling himself. Who knows (maybe the in-game jargon that is 99% untranslated reveals something). Main timeline Dende and Piccolo are informed about Miira after he destroys New Namek and the Namekians relocate to Earth in AGE 851, way before Trunks arrives. It's possible they could have forgotten about him for a while though, because he doesn't come to Earth until AGE 998 and they don't really learn about him until Trunks' warning and Piccolo's investigation in AGE 999, or take action till AGE 1000.

[Hitiro]

We're never told how Trunks learns about Miira. Maybe they invaded Earth in his timeline, or he encountered them when time traveling himself. Who knows (maybe the in-game jargon that is 99% untranslated reveals something). Main timeline Dende and Piccolo are informed about Miira after he destroys New Namek and the Namekians relocate to Earth in AGE 851, way before Trunks arrives. It's possible they could have forgotten about him for a while though, because he doesn't come to Earth until AGE 998 and they don't really learn about him until Trunks' warning and Piccolo's investigation in AGE 999, or take action till AGE 1000.

It's been said may times by people on these forums and other places(I don't know where people are getting their references but they must hold some truth if I've seen people come up with similar translations of the timeline) that at least Dende warned Trunks about the Miira.

Age 2000:
- Miira enlists remnants of Freeza's World Trade Organization and Red Pants Army to conquer Earth and suceeds. He then travels back in time to get Goku's DNA to power himself up. Dende contacts Trunks in order to prevent this.

We can assume that this Dende is from the same time period and timeline because:
1. How would Dende get his hands on a time machine if the only person to successfully build one has been dead for more than 300 years prior to the current story of our characters? Plus the age 2000 is probably only referencing the information before the whole "Dende contacts" thing, I doubt Dende would be alive in the age 2000 so he must have met Miira when he was time travelling back through time.
2. Future Trunks would have no contact with the Z warriors after Cell and the androids had been defeated. And the timeline does not make any mentions of Future Trunks using the time machine apart from coming to the current age our characters in. So only information from his own timeline would be able to aid him.
3. And finally, the Future Trunks timeline, or variation, could be the only way in which a time machine was present so only a Future Trunks, or a variation of him, would be able to make contact with other characters if he found out something.

[LiamKav]

If the explosion of Planet Vegeta created at least 1.21 jigowatts, and Freeza's blast was travelling faster than 88 miles per hour, then time travel is certainly possible.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It's been said may times by people on these forums and other places(I don't know where people are getting their references but they must hold some truth if I've seen people come up with similar translations of the timeline) that at least Dende warned Trunks about the Miira.

Your quote was probably from one of the original, spotty translations of the pre-release information. For example, some of our first information reports stated that Namekians started on New Namek and were then sent to Earth to aid the Earthlings by Elder Muri. We were also told "The Earth is divided into parts by the Dark Eye, a lively group of scoundrels, whose mastermind is a total enigma... ", though Miira's group is apparently no longer known as the "Dark Eye" anywhere, and are just "Time Breakers" that haven't divided up the planet. Time Patrol Trunks was originally stated to first appear in AGE 1000, though we now know he arrived a bit earlier than that, etc.

If it's not present in Herms' new timeline (which your entry isn't), still available in-game or on an official site, it's should be regarded as non-canon these days. Here's Herm's version from the forum: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =8&t=19669

[soulnova]

If the explosion of Planet Vegeta created at least 1.21 jigowatts, [/i]and[/i] Freeza's blast was travelling faster than 88 miles per hour, then time travel is certainly possible.

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[LiamKav]

*cough*

[Hellspawn28]

I always thought it could have been the abilities that alien passed to him earlier in the Bardock special. I do wish they did explain on what happen since people now these days like to stuff explain to them.

[LiamKav]

It's not that people need to have every little thing explained, but something as big as time travel probably deserves something. If a big Ki blast could send people through time, we'd have people time-travelling all over the place.

We don't even get a muffin button here.