VIZ 3-in-1 Editions Coming Summer 2013

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Re: VIZ 3-in-1 Editions Coming Summer 2013

Post by NessMudkip » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:11 pm

Egh. This release annoys me, because it means that we're gonna have to wait even longer for another good english release of the Dragon Ball manga i.e. Kanzenbans. Seriously now, why can't Viz just release those?
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Re: VIZ 3-in-1 Editions Coming Summer 2013

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Post by Insertclevername » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:03 pm

Well, shit...I guess I should probably get myself all the Viz bigs now, since this release isn't even worth bothering. Hopefully we'll get the Kazenabans....right :?
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Re: VIZ 3-in-1 Editions Coming Summer 2013

Post by Mewzard » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:15 pm

NessMudkip wrote:Egh. This release annoys me, because it means that we're gonna have to wait even longer for another good english release of the Dragon Ball manga i.e. Kanzenbans. Seriously now, why can't Viz just release those?
Forget the Kanzenbans, I want this color version of the manga released here. They must have jumped the gun on this release, because otherwise, this would be the perfect time to start releasing something like that...
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Re: VIZ 3-in-1 Editions Coming Summer 2013

Post by AgitoZ » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:23 pm

Mewzard wrote:Forget the Kanzenbans, I want this color version of the manga released here. They must have jumped the gun on this release, because otherwise, this would be the perfect time to start releasing something like that...
If given the option, I'd vastly prefer the Kanzenbans over the crappy recolorings.
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Post by funrush » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:21 am

the original ero-sennin wrote:It's confusing to me that VIZ would roll out a release of the series that is of lower quality than the existing VIZBIG volumes. That's a huge bummer.

Oh, and I've changed the thread title.
Probably to save them money. I can imagine the Vizbigs cost a sizable amount more than 3-in-1's to make.

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Post by medama_oyaji » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:27 am

Right. I think these are made to be a cheap option for people curious about DB rather than collectors. I think because the ad says "Dragon Ball" without the "Z," it will be for the first part of the series, which I imagine does not sell as well as the Z volumes.

I think the 3-in-1 volumes serve a purpose to get people who are hesitant to pick up long series a chance to sample it or get caught up to a point where they would buy the full-price volumes.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:02 pm

Well, that pretty much solves it for me then. I need to get the rest of the VizBigs before they become hard to find.
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Post by Saiga » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:03 pm

If these are lower quality than the VizBigs, what's the point in them? Cheaper retail price?
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:04 pm

Pretty much, and they're also much more cheaply made. I don't have any numbers obviously, but...well, again, taking into account the general flimsiness of the 3-in-1's that I've seen, I pretty much refuse to believe those cost that much to make in comparison to the much nicer Vizbigs.
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Re: VIZ 3-in-1 Editions Coming Summer 2013

Post by Sin » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:07 pm

Saiga wrote:If these are lower quality than the VizBigs, what's the point in them? Cheaper retail price?
I think the VizBigs are already pretty cheap, but yeah that's the only thing I can think of, just milking the cow.

Ah well, time to gather the VizBigs, I'll just have to make do with them for the moment.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:13 pm

Sin wrote:I think the VizBigs are already pretty cheap, but yeah that's the only thing I can think of, just milking the cow.
They're certainly not as nice as the Rurouni Kenshin ones, that's for sure. Those had a touched up script (when the first time around translation was already pretty good I believe), much better use of the color pages, still had all the chapter pages where they belong (something I've noticed none of our DB manga releases is very good about), and even had bonus information about the Meiji period in Japan stuffed into the back, to bring even more real world context into the series. Then to top it off the last volume of them had both one-shots following the series, one of which you had to have a specific issue of the US SJ magazine to have, and the other had never been officially released here at all. I don't know for a fact, but I'm under the impression that the last DB Vizbig didn't give us squat that we didn't have before, so...yeah.
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Re: VIZ 3-in-1 Editions Coming Summer 2013

Post by Sin » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:17 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:They're certainly not as nice as the Rurouni Kenshin ones, that's for sure. Those had a touched up script (when the first time around translation was already pretty good I believe), much better use of the color pages, still had all the chapter pages where they belong (something I've noticed none of our DB manga releases is very good about), and even had bonus information about the Meiji period in Japan stuffed into the back, to bring even more real world context into the series. Then to top it off the last volume of them had both one-shots following the series, one of which you had to have a specific issue of the US SJ magazine to have, and the other had never been officially released here at all. I don't know for a fact, but I'm under the impression that the last DB Vizbig didn't give us squat that we didn't have before, so...yeah.
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Post by medama_oyaji » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:22 pm

Yeah, in that ad it says the VizBigs contain "updated content." Anybody know what content was updated for the VizBigs? I bought the first 2 DB and DBZ VizBigs when they were released and didn't notice anything different from the regular volumes, except IIRC they opted for the censored versions in some cases.

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Post by bjh13 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:03 pm

They are retailing for $3 cheaper ($2 less with Amazon discounting them) each so it makes sense. If you are talking buying the entire series (14 VIZBIG volumes) then that is a good $42 difference to someone new to the manga. Some may also prefer the more traditional size, and I could see bookstores reluctant to order the VIZBIG volumes because they do not fit on a manga sized shelf. The lower quality (we assume at least based on previous 3 in 1 volumes from Viz) is a downside for the reduced price, but it makes sense.

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Post by MCDaveG » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:39 pm

Insertclevername wrote:Well, shit...I guess I should probably get myself all the Viz bigs now, since this release isn't even worth bothering. Hopefully we'll get the Kazenabans....right :?
Only thing I fear as I'm just getting them is that they will be out of stock, resuplied by the inferior editions and some sh********rs will sell them for like 100 dollars for one, like it happened with Dragon Box.
Please, I only want the english text the legal way and importing it like retard, paying 15-20% from the price more for the import!!!! Ugh 8)
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Re: VIZ 3-in-1 Editions Coming Summer 2013

Post by Codarik » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:59 pm

For someone that owns a 3 in 1 or has seen them in person, are these any good? I mean as paper quality, durability, etc. I'm asking cause I've been debating myself over getting the 3 in 1's of Fullmetal Alchemist that VIZ is currently releasing or to get the manga box set.

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Post by medama_oyaji » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:15 am

On the subject of VizBigs, I've been curious about something -- unfortunately not ALL of the color pages are reprinted in color in these editions. Was this the same with the Kanzenbans? Do they have any of the color pages in gray scale or are they all reprinted in color? I'm curious about both the full-color pages and the limited palette pages.

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Post by MCDaveG » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:37 am

medama_oyaji wrote:On the subject of VizBigs, I've been curious about something -- unfortunately not ALL of the color pages are reprinted in color in these editions. Was this the same with the Kanzenbans? Do they have any of the color pages in gray scale or are they all reprinted in color? I'm curious about both the full-color pages and the limited palette pages.
Nope they don't, they have full color pages in it's entirety of full color sections. I can confirm that physically, as I have, uhm, scans of them :oops:
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Re: VIZ 3-in-1 Editions Coming Summer 2013

Post by rereboy » Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:16 am

Codarik wrote:For someone that owns a 3 in 1 or has seen them in person, are these any good? I mean as paper quality, durability, etc. I'm asking cause I've been debating myself over getting the 3 in 1's of Fullmetal Alchemist that VIZ is currently releasing or to get the manga box set.
Get the box set. The 3-in-1's paper is like the paper in the regular edition, except that it is thinner, and its too thin.

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