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by Insertclevername » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:51 am
Zephyr wrote:...the biggest thing I want is for Goten, Trunks, and Marron (if she even appears) to actually look appropriately aged. Thinking about it, if we assume Battle of Gods is 5 years after the Buu arc (which many seem to be doing), then 3 years after that would be only 2 years off from the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai. They'd have to have changed designs.
I agree, they really got to update their designs. An early teen Goten, Trunks and Marron would be cool to see.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:52 am
TheMightyOzaru wrote: Who says the new series has to be an anime, a manga will work just fine.
Chozenshuu 2 hinted specifically more anime, Chozenshuu 1 hinted more adventures, and Battle of Gods expanded the Dragon World by many times. So, it's either going to be an anime series, a movie series, or an OVA series.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by Zephyr » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:58 am
NeoKING wrote:I feel that the only reason people want a BOG2 is because of "Strength / Power" reasons; because they want to see their favorite character fight this person, or become stronger than that person, or see Vegeta become SSJ3 all the while forgetting that the reason BOG even exists in the first place is because they wanted to bring back that DB nostalgia rather than settle power debates.
Doesn't apply to me, at least. I want a BoG2 just so the universe gets expanded. More characters, more adventures, more confusing, briefly-touched-upon things to rationalize with fan theories.
Whatever changes or verifications they make to the strength of the characters will obviously involve speculation and rationalization to properly fit in with the rest of the material. Strength related changes and confirmations within the story will be enjoyable for me, but those will be
far from the only things.
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by Hellspawn28 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:01 pm
I think a god based on Hanuman be cool to see as well. I always thought to be cool to see a monkey villain that is not Saiyajin related.
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by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:02 pm
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:TheMightyOzaru wrote: Who says the new series has to be an anime, a manga will work just fine.
Chozenshuu 2 hinted specifically more anime, Chozenshuu 1 hinted more adventures, and Battle of Gods expanded the Dragon World by many times. So, it's either going to be an anime series, a movie series, or an OVA series.
Either way, I'm good. A new Movie every year or so would be nice.
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by Hellspawn28 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:15 pm
If they do a god of creation then I think it would be cool to see how life in the Dragon Ball universe was made. My guess is that all of the gods were born after the big bang and one of the gods was sent to create life in the four galaxies of the universe.
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by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:21 pm
Hellspawn28 wrote:If they do a god of creation then I think it would be cool to see how life in the Dragon Ball universe was made. My guess is that all of the gods were born after the big bang and one of the gods was sent to create life in the four galaxies of the universe.
Uisu looks like a Kaioshin, maybe he is the God of Creation.
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by Ryuman » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:29 pm
Aren't the Kaioshin in general the gods of creation, instead of just a specific one?
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by MCDaveG » Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:03 pm
I don't see why such a fuss? Of course they mentioned more, as they will not write up that BOG is the last, but there should be more of anything in future. They won't simply close the door.
Doesn't mean there will be sequel to BOG specifically.
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by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:06 pm
Ryuman wrote:Aren't the Kaioshin in general the gods of creation, instead of just a specific one?
Yes but maybe Uisu is like the head honcho. Maybe he made the tree that makes the golden Kaioshin fruits.
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by Super Sayian Prime » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:45 am
Toei's goal for this film is 30 billion yen?! That's 300 million dollars... Are they insane?
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by GogetaSSJ2 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:05 am
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Toei's goal for this film is 30 billion yen?! That's 300 million dollars... Are they insane?
30 billion yen? I thought their goal was 30 million yen? If its 30 billion yen.....thats just overkill
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by Super Sayian Prime » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:11 am
GogetaSSJ2 wrote:Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Toei's goal for this film is 30 billion yen?! That's 300 million dollars... Are they insane?
30 billion yen? I thought their goal was 30 million yen? If its 30 billion yen.....thats just overkill
I'm going off of what DragonBoxZTheMovies said, which was 30 billion yen. 30 million yen ($300,000) seems low for a movie with this much promotion especially given it's a wide release, and not a roadshow.
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by GogetaSSJ2 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:20 am
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:GogetaSSJ2 wrote:Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Toei's goal for this film is 30 billion yen?! That's 300 million dollars... Are they insane?
30 billion yen? I thought their goal was 30 million yen? If its 30 billion yen.....thats just overkill
I'm going off of what DragonBoxZTheMovies said, which was 30 billion yen. 30 million yen ($300,000) seems low for a movie with this much promotion especially given it's a wide release, and not a roadshow.
Well I'm unfamiliar with how the Japanese Box Office works. I don't think their movies would make the big bucks like our Iron Man and Batman movies do over here in the West. But from your tone of voice, it sounds like they might be overestimating this movie's success with their $300,000,000 goal. I'm not sure if 30 billion yen is a normal intake of a typical wide release Japanese movie? Hopefully someone else knows more about the Japanese box office because this would not be my expertise.
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by GogetaSSJ2 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:22 am
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:EDIT: Argh, I'm a dumbass...3 Billion Yen. Must've been mis-remembering things and I never actually stopped to think how much that is. I'd like to say it was a typo, but I don't think it was...
Oh, and here's the article:
http://www.bunkatsushin.com/news/article.aspx?id=70265
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by Super Sayian Prime » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:49 am
GogetaSSJ2 wrote:Well I'm unfamiliar with how the Japanese Box Office works. I don't think their movies would make the big bucks like our Iron Man and Batman movies do over here in the West. But from your tone of voice, it sounds like they might be overestimating this movie's success with their $300,000,000 goal. I'm not sure if 30 billion yen is a normal intake of a typical wide release Japanese movie? Hopefully someone else knows more about the Japanese box office because this would not be my expertise.
You can see the box office results for films released in Japan in 2012
here. Only 1 film in Japan has grossed 30 billion yen, and that was Spirited Away. Toei's actual expectation of 3 billion yen (~$30 million) is much more attainable.
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by JulieYBM » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:57 am
Thirty million USD might very well be ten times the film's budget, too.
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by enjyu123 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:21 pm
A new series would be better since then their would be 11 movies about the same thing (beating the Gods of Destruction) So a series would be better but highly unlikly though because chozenshuu could mean anything like more video games.
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