That's what we've been saying wait. You earlier just said they're different transformations and then pulled out all these guidebook statements to help your argument that they're different transformations replacing SSJ.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Saiyan & Super Saiyan Full Power are the same form, but different states IMO.Draken wrote:Which is why the guidebooks could be wrong. They said only Gohan and Goku can "transform" into it, when we know in reality all the Saiyans can. It's not a transformation, simply a state of being. Imagine a healthy runner and a non-healthy runner. They can both jog at the same speeds. Yet the healthy runner's heart will be exerting less effort and he can keep the pace continually with minimal stress. The non-healthy runner can jog at the speed for awhile, but then eventually his heart will get too tired to continue pumping blood at that level of exertion and his feet/legs will start feeling the stress. Same thing with SSJ and FPSSJ. Don't tell me you think humans have transformations when running
Mastered SSJ, Freeza's 100% and Cooler's 5th Form.
Re: Mastered SSJ, Freeza's 100% and Cooler's 5th Form.
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Re: Mastered SSJ, Freeza's 100% and Cooler's 5th Form.
Yeah, that's the conclusion I just reached, actually.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Mastered SSJ, Freeza's 100% and Cooler's 5th Form.
Ah alright, fair enoughDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Yeah, that's the conclusion I just reached, actually.

