Little Dub Lines you Love

[penguintruth]

Ugh, that anyone could like any of these awful dub lines is sickening to me. I can only assume some drug-addled hack they pulled out of a community college creative writing course wrote this crap.

I always really liked Vegeta's "Tell me. Is it slavery when you get what you want?" line in the Boo Arc of the FUNi dub.
This one wins.

It would be an okay line if they didn't show Vegeta with his mouth not moving at all. In other words, no line was spoken there at all and Funimation just added a line they came up with to put over the scene. What a bunch of halfwits.

[DarkPrince_92]

As much as I despise GT (except Super 17) this line kills me Vegeta's Second best Comeback Line Ever


Oh and Vegeta AFTER Goku's people popcorn comment:

Vegeta:...what is he on...?

[Ringworm128]

Ugh, that anyone could like any of these awful dub lines is sickening to me. I can only assume some drug-addled hack they pulled out of a community college creative writing course wrote this crap.
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And yet if they were in the original you would praise them, I will never understand over obsessive purists. I suppose you also have a problem with people putting fries in their McDonalds burgers or taking out the pickles because it's not how it was originally.

[Gonstead]

Goku: 'Til we meet again guys! *happy laugh* - GT 64, last line of the series.

Even though that wasn't in the Japanese version I always liked that.

It does feel very Dragon Ball when Goku says that and I'm surprised it isn't actually from the original version.

[Big Momma]

Ugh, that anyone could like any of these awful dub lines is sickening to me. I can only assume some drug-addled hack they pulled out of a community college creative writing course wrote this crap.
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And yet if they were in the original you would praise them, I will never understand over obsessive purists. I suppose you also have a problem with people putting fries in their McDonalds burgers or taking out the pickles because it's not how it was originally.

Despite the poor way PenguinTruth expresses it (No doubt to get a rise out of people, as he just did with you), I'm with him on this one. And you're more than likely right in that it wouldn't be bad if it were in the original. The problem, though, isn't (usually) the line itself. It's that the line wasn't in the original. It's a change from what was intended, or something new added in where there should be nothing. An attempt to "spice up" what should be fine as is.

[penguintruth]

Ugh, that anyone could like any of these awful dub lines is sickening to me. I can only assume some drug-addled hack they pulled out of a community college creative writing course wrote this crap.
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And yet if they were in the original you would praise them, I will never understand over obsessive purists. I suppose you also have a problem with people putting fries in their McDonalds burgers or taking out the pickles because it's not how it was originally.

It's not being an "obsessive purist" to expect at least a modicum of accuracy, if at least in spirit, from an English dub of a Japanese show. Some scenes go by with very little of what was actually originally written for them, either in word or in tone.

Does anything about these characters tell you they would say the sort of nonsense the Funimation "writers" made up for them? Bullcrap like Goku complaining about his split ends or Vegeta telling 18 he'll turn her into a toaster or a washing machine?

They might as well have just made it a gag dub while they were at it.

[Ringworm128]

Still don't 100% understand the "it's not like the original" thing. Does it REALLY mater? Can't people just enjoy the line(s) for what it is? If the line is stupid it's stupid, if it's good it's good whether it was originally there shouldn't decide that. If people are so obsessed with it being faithful then they might as well complain about the voices not being in Japanese, in fact why not just read the manga in raw Japanese. And most of those lines where written for how the characters were portrayed in the dub stuff like "pop goes the weasel" works in context of the dub because that's how the character was re-written, it wouldn't work in Kai because the characters were written to be closer to the original. If I want the original I just watch the original or Kai. When I watch the Funimation dub I acknowledge half of it is made up and just enjoy it for the goofy over the top cheeseathon it is "mondo cool" and all.

[penguintruth]

It's that sort of flimsy justification that makes dub studios think they can trample all over a show with their stupid, made-up nonesense. An English dub of a Japanese animated program should reflect the Japanese script as close as possible, with some smoothing over where necessary, but in the English language. It is the representative of that show in the English language. If it doesn't reflect the original intention of the show, it might as well not be the show at all, because in some ways, it isn't.

No dub studio today could get away with what Funimation did with DBZ back then without a massive outrage. People like to apologize for it because it happened "years ago", but there were plenty of more faithful dubs back then, and even if there weren't, it's still not excusable. Fine, if they want to take a few liberties here and there, great, sometimes Japanese doesn't translate comfortably to English, they have to fill mouth flaps, etc. But when they completely manafacture dialogue that has nothing to do with the original script, they're just wiping their ass with the show and the people who support it are enjoying the smell of Funimation's crap.

If Funimation did today with any show what they did with DBZ back then, heads would roll. But people come up with this stupid, "Aw, come on, we all grew up watching it this way, don't be so critical." Yeah, well we grew up with Robotech, Voltron, and other atrocities. Did they get us into the medium? Sure. But the approach to them was wrong.

[Ringworm128]

Yes, the DBZ dub wouldn't slide nowadays. My point is that it can still be enjoyed for what it is in a b movie sort of way. Take 4kids for example, you don't see people enjoying those dubs because they were legitimately bad, regardless of whether they were faithful or not. The nicest thing you usually see is "I grew up with this so it has a special place, but I prefer the Japanese version/redub. Take the Ghost Stories dub for example, faithful? No. Enjoyable? Yes. And the dub still somewhat keeps the spirit of the original, most of the characters are still like the original with a couple of exceptions, Vegeta is still an arrogant ass, Roshi is still a perverted yet wise and powerful master, Tenshinhan is still a loner who wants to get stronger etc. The story is pretty much the same and the dialogue was somewhat similar to the original a lot of the times with some changes here and there. The most major change was the BGM and even that's been fixed for newer releases of the series.

[matt0044]

While I most agree with penguintruth, I don't agree with his attitude about it.

[seansmith9322]

While I most agree with penguintruth, I don't agree with his attitude about it.

I second this.

But also I would like to add the Funimation dub is something a lot of people grew up on, so it was the "original" to them. So a lot of people knocked Kai for not being "original" well in fact is was more close to the Japanese Dub than the funimation Dub was. But all in all even though the Fun Dub does have some terrible lines in it, it will always have a place in my heart that nothing will be able to replace even if it is what the show is supposed to be.

[Nikkolas]

If you want the "original", read the manga. The Japanese anime is an adaptation too and it took more liberties than the dub ever did.

You say what FUni did with DBZ but what about what Funi did with Yu Yu Hakusho? Pretty much the same treatment in regards to massive script rewrites. And yet in ten years of being on the internet I've barely heard a single criticism of the dub. The reason for this is because the acting was great and the writing was great. It was different from the original anime yes but by that time Funi had a much better grasp of what they were doing.

As long as a dub keeps the characters and story intact, what's the harm in not being super-literal?

Yes, the DBZ dub wouldn't slide nowadays. My point is that it can still be enjoyed for what it is in a b movie sort of way. Take 4kids for example, you don't see people enjoying those dubs because they were legitimately bad, regardless of whether they were faithful or not. The nicest thing you usually see is "I grew up with this so it has a special place, but I prefer the Japanese version/redub.

4Kids' dubs aren't all One Piece-level. The old Pokemon dub was much beloved for a reason and it's not all nostalgia. The VAs who worked on that show for years and years had fallen in love with their characters ane they put their hearts and souls into their performances.

Whatever failings they had in terms of editing or censorship or whatever, 4Kids hired some great voice talent. Hell, Schemmel mostly works with them nowadays I believe since he is in New York right?

[VegettoEX]

Plenty of people took issues with Yu Yu Hakusho's English dub. If you didn't see it, you weren't looking for it. I don't know the series or particularly care about it, so I can't suddenly point you toward those discussions ten years later, however.

Insert generic "people like different things, please understand that, but you're also allowed to express your contrary position with an intelligent and understanding tone, reading that someone dislikes something you like is not inherently a personal attack on you, stop playing the victim, etc."

[Pretorious]

"So... I did. HA!"

The end.

You beat me to it! This was seriously the first thing I thought of when I read this thread's title. I re-watched this episode recently after having it shelved for over ten years, and when I heard Goku say this, I burst out laughing. I found it genuinely funny (as opposed to "so bad, it's funny").

I also kind of like Freeza's original dub line that goes something like "If you were a dog, I'd scratch your belly. If you were a cat, I'd give you warm milk..." In high school a friend and I used to do impressions of that line, because it was so goofy.

But Freeza's best line of all: "Having these balls makes me feel something that resembles joy! I want to caress them."

Pffffhahaha. I love it.

ALSO: Goku to Kami in DBZ movie one: "This is NONE of your business!" because it's awesome to see him take that tone with Kami. Also, when he says "You can't beat me, I'll take you all on!"

Hopefully these aren't misquoted; I am going from memory.

EDIT: Now that I think of it, there are tons of lines from DBZ movie 1 that I think are great.

Like "I WILL NEVER DIE!"

And I vaguely remember liking Piccolo's lines a lot. Particulary when he kills Garlic's henchman.

[Drabaz]

Buu's Poop: Uh oh! Looks like it's potty time!
Goku: Hey guys, what's party time?!
Buu's Poop: AHHHHHH!
Goku: Woah, some party!

Always makes me laugh

[matt0044]

Ugh, that anyone could like any of these awful dub lines is sickening to me.

So you look down on others for having different viewpoint than your's on the internet? I'm starting to really see why others dislike you.

[VegettoEX]

If my jumping into the mix -- as an administrator -- was not making it clear enough, lay off the personal comments/attacks and stick with the intended topic at hand, please.

[matt0044]

If my jumping into the mix -- as an administrator -- was not making it clear enough, lay off the personal comments/attacks and stick with the intended topic at hand, please.

Is it okay if it's a PM?

Also if you go to the Sailor Moon Forum, the new Manga translation is disliked due to being super-literal (including some bad grammar amongst other issues).

[VegettoEX]

I can't control what you say to each other in a private setting, but I would encourage adults to actually act like adults.

[TheMightyOzaru]

SAD FOR YOOOOUUUUU!!!!