Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Rocketman » Sat May 04, 2013 2:53 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:Yea considering there isn't a core , at least not like the one on Earth that could start a chain reaction
A what now?
Also , in those conspiracy theories about us landing on the moon , I remember reading the moon is hollow. And that landing on it caused it to ring for hours or something? Maybe not completely hollow , but definitely a different kind of piece of rock floating in space than Earth.
Er...no. The Moon is a solid rock, and is actually very, very similar to the rocks that make up Earth's crust.

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat May 04, 2013 3:04 pm

Earth's Core

https://www.google.com/search?q=earths+ ... #itp=open4



Moon Core

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+moo ... #itp=open1


Moon Landing Conspiracy

https://www.google.com/search?q=did+we+ ... #itp=open0


That should be about it lol. Man that's some attitude you got , bad day?

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat May 04, 2013 3:12 pm

I wouldn't argue with Rocketman when it comes to science and astronomy.
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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat May 04, 2013 3:17 pm

I'm here to learn. Was he the guy throwing out all of those equations before?

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by The Monkey King » Sat May 04, 2013 3:21 pm

Toriyama said the moon in DB is 380,000km away from the Earth just like the irl moon.
Is his word not good enough for some of you?
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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat May 04, 2013 3:25 pm

Ok so the distance is the same , but he did say that his Earth is not our Earth as well. He says that so he can do what he wants and not get tied up in sciency things like this.

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Rocketman » Sat May 04, 2013 3:28 pm

The Monkey King wrote:Toriyama said the moon in DB is 380,000km away from the Earth just like the irl moon.
Is his word not good enough for some of you?
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h35 ... _super.jpg
Not when it outright contradicts every single appearance of the Moon.
Mjb1985 wrote:That should be about it lol. Man that's some attitude you got , bad day?
That doesn't answer my question. What possible "chain reaction" do you think the Earth's core would contribute to?
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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat May 04, 2013 3:30 pm

What would those contradictions be Rocketman? And why are you the science guy here? What's your claim to fame?

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat May 04, 2013 3:31 pm

Rocketman wrote:
The Monkey King wrote:Toriyama said the moon in DB is 380,000km away from the Earth just like the irl moon.
Is his word not good enough for some of you?
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h35 ... _super.jpg
Not when it outright contradicts every single appearance of the Moon.
It's a gag manga made by a Japanese man of average intelligence. You shouldn't take how it's drawn so seriously.
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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat May 04, 2013 3:34 pm

I agree with that sentiment. Also, Buff Roshi can be really strong !

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by The Monkey King » Sat May 04, 2013 3:42 pm

Rocketman wrote:
The Monkey King wrote:Toriyama said the moon in DB is 380,000km away from the Earth just like the irl moon.
Is his word not good enough for some of you?
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h35 ... _super.jpg
Not when it outright contradicts every single appearance of the Moon.
Toriyama's word on how far away the moon is >>>>>>> Fan interpretation of how far away the moon is.

I used to think due to how muscular Vegeta is he would weigh 90kg+. But according to Toriyama he weighs a measly 56kg as weird as that seems it's a canon fact from the author of the manga and so there's no argument as to how much Vegeta weighs just like how there's no argument that the moon in DB is not the same distance as the irl moon.
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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Rocketman » Sat May 04, 2013 3:47 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:What would those contradictions be Rocketman? And why are you the science guy here? What's your claim to fame?
The Moon is enormous in the sky, and the Earth is similarly huge in the Moon's sky. The curvature of the DB Moon is much more pronounced than ours. The oceans are unaffected by the sudden disappearance of the Moon's gravity.

Therefore the DB Moon is very small and close.
Toriyama's word on how far away the moon is >>>>>>> Fan interpretation of how far away the moon is.
If Toriyama said Bulma has a dick, would you believe it?

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat May 04, 2013 3:53 pm

Would Toriyama say that though? Arguing with the creator wont get you very far.
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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat May 04, 2013 3:55 pm

Agreed. The author says the moon is a certain distance it is. He however also said that his Dragonball Earth IS NOT , I repeat , IS NOT our Earth. So things are loosely based on our reality. Straight from the horses mouth.

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by The Monkey King » Sat May 04, 2013 3:58 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Toriyama's word on how far away the moon is >>>>>>> Fan interpretation of how far away the moon is.
If Toriyama said Bulma has a dick, would you believe it?
I already provided a less asinine comparison to the DB moon.
The Monkey King wrote:I used to think due to how muscular Vegeta is he would weigh 90kg+. But according to Toriyama he weighs a measly 56kg as weird as that seems it's a canon fact from the author of the manga and so there's no argument as to how much Vegeta weighs just like how there's no argument that the moon in DB is not the same distance as the irl moon.
The moon appearing big is artistic license and there being no natural disasters is DB's lack of irl physics.

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat May 04, 2013 4:04 pm

But the author specifically mentioned that things aren't to scale so he can avoid scrutiny and do whatever he wanted. So what's the issue here?

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Bussani » Sat May 04, 2013 5:30 pm

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Rocketman wrote:Also what is this nonsense about "blowing up the Moon from the core". What does that even mean.
It essentially means you are forcing the planet apart from it's core with an Omnidirectional blast.
What Rocketman's getting at is that the amount of energy necessary to force the Moon apart from its core is exactly the 30 trillian megatons you mentioned earlier. Blowing up a planet from its core doesn't make it easier. This is fiction, of course, so it can do whatever it wants, but I guess it just feels weird to some people to hear others say "it was easier because they blew up the core" as if it's perfectly logical because it just goes against everything they know, you know?
Mjb1985 wrote:Yea considering there isn't a core , at least not like the one on Earth that could start a chain reaction
Likewise, a big ball of iron can't have a chain reaction. But again, this is fiction, and the way Toriyama wrote it does make it seem like planets are ticking timebombs waiting to go off. How did Namek explode, anyway...? Freeza "took out" the core, implying it was gone, and that somehow caused the planet to explode several minutes later? What exploded, exactly? The gap where the core used to be? Dragon Ball's weird.
The Monkey King wrote:Is his word not good enough for some of you?
If they want to question it, that's up to them. Hell, if they want to ignore things the author said outside of the original story itself, that's up to them, too. If you think you should accept anything the author says, whether it's made up on the spot or doesn't make much sense or whatever, then that's up to you, but please don't force your approach on others or tell people to stop thinking and questioning for themselves. Even if you do want to accept the author's answers as law, we can at least talk about them and suggest alternatives that might have fit better.

This conversation keeps making me think about Toriyama's random "Saiyan tails are recessive" comment.
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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat May 04, 2013 5:35 pm

Yea I get that impression too of the Dragonball world. The planet is like a volatile mixture of chemicals waiting to explode. A little ki is like gasoline on the fire , kablooey.

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Rocketman » Sun May 05, 2013 12:41 am

The Monkey King wrote:
Rocketman wrote:If Toriyama said Bulma has a dick, would you believe it?
I already provided a less asinine comparison to the DB moon.
That's not an answer.

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Re: Is Master Roshi's moon-busting feat an outlier?

Post by Insertclevername » Sun May 05, 2013 12:45 am

Rocketman wrote: If Toriyama said Bulma has a dick, would you believe it?

No, because we already have visual confirmation that she doesn't (unless it's in an unusual spot).
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