SSJ2 teen Gohan (Cell saga) vs Broly (movie 10)?

[Kamiccolo9]

I realize that this may not be my place, but in the interest of preserving our sanity, can we all just assume that our respective views on this topic haven't changed from the last 3 or 4 times we've debated it? No need to make another monster thread only for VegettoEX to come in and reprimand everyone.

[Draken]

I realize that this may not be my place, but in the interest of preserving our sanity, can we all just assume that our respective views on this topic haven't changed from the last 3 or 4 times we've debated it? No need to make another monster thread only for VegettoEX to come in and reprimand everyone.

Pretty much still 32472389412 v 1.

[Cardle grave]

Goku says only Buu pushed him to SSJ3, meaning Paikuhan and SSJ2 Goku were enough to beat Broly.Why wouldn't it relate, when Paragus appears in M12?

Does it look like movie 11 relates to movie 12 and how do you know what happened in hell. Where is the video because i sure don't see one. I don't know if goku was hax, Or broly wasn't LSSJ or it was Bio broly that was making trouble.

Like i said i am not having a massive ass debate on something i had never seen So good day to you sir

He powered up considerably, How do you power up if you don't train "SMH" rolling my eyes

[Draken]

Goku says only Buu pushed him to SSJ3, meaning Paikuhan and SSJ2 Goku were enough to beat Broly.Why wouldn't it relate, when Paragus appears in M12?

Does it look like movie 11 relates to movie 12 and how do you know what happened in hell. Where is the video because i sure don't see one. I don't know if goku was hax, Or broly wasn't LSSJ or it was Bio broly that was making trouble.

Like i said i am not having a massive ass debate on something i had never seen So good day to you sir

He powered up considerably, How do you power up if you don't train "SMH" rolling my eyes

Yea man, we all know that it's more likely to be the clone and not the real Broly in Hell, we all know Gohan fought Broly at his maximum Cell Games strength, and we all know Broly >>> SSJ3 Goku.

If your answer is "we don't know if Goku was hax", then we don't know that Broly wasn't hax in M10 and his real strength is actually that of Turtle. OOOOOHHH.

[Cardle grave]

Yea man, we all know that it's more likely to be the clone and not the real Broly in Hell, we all know Gohan fought Broly at his maximum Cell Games strength, and we all know Broly >>> SSJ3 Goku.

wow the sarcasm is pathetic, Gohan is weaker despite saying his stronger. Next time someone says there stronger i am going to say there weaker.

If your answer is "we don't know if Goku was hax", then we don't know that Broly wasn't hax in M10 and his real strength is actually that of Turtle. OOOOOHHH.

Considering the fact that movie 12 SSJ3 goku>>SSJ3 gotenks. Even base goku can beat broly

[TheMightyOzaru]

Wow the sarcasm is pathetic, Gohan is weaker despite saying he's stronger. Next time someone says they're stronger I am going to say they're weaker.

There, fixed that for you. Gohan's M8 self is weaker than his Cell Games self sooooooooo he wasn't lying when he said he's gotten stronger since their last encounter.

[Cardle grave]

Wow the sarcasm is pathetic, Gohan is weaker despite saying he's stronger. Next time someone says they're stronger I am going to say they're weaker.

There, fixed that for you. Gohan's M8 self is weaker than his Cell Games self sooooooooo he wasn't lying when he said he's gotten stronger since their last encounter.

7 years of training is going to make up for any gap man

so far its 1-1

[PerfectFreeza]

Except he didn't train in the gap, since Daizenshuu says so.
IMO, this is how it is:M8 Gohan=Semi-Cell<<<M10 Gohan=Buu saga Gohan<<Cell Games Gohan

[TheMightyOzaru]

Wow the sarcasm is pathetic, Gohan is weaker despite saying he's stronger. Next time someone says they're stronger I am going to say they're weaker.

There, fixed that for you. Gohan's M8 self is weaker than his Cell Games self sooooooooo he wasn't lying when he said he's gotten stronger since their last encounter.

7 years of training is going to make up for any gap man

so far its 1-1

Gohan didn't train....

[Son_Gohan]

It comes down to a matter of interpretation. Gohan's line could be taken to act as evidence that he kept training during the 7 years since as far as I know, there's no indication in the movie itself that he had stopped. The Broly storyline already contradicted what powers they had in the original story by depicting Gohan to be weaker than Goku in the first film. So trying to correlate what power they had in the movie setting with the manga is already demonstrated to be inapplicable, it's not something they care to follow.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I made it work. I just assume Gohan has his rested SSJ power.

[Son_Gohan]

I made it work. I just assume Gohan has his rested SSJ power.

I could've sworn he had an aura though.

[Cardle grave]

Except he didn't train in the gap, since Daizenshuu says so.
IMO, this is how it is:M8 Gohan=Semi-Cell<<<M10 Gohan=Buu saga Gohan<<Cell Games Gohan

Quote please

also his skills and fighting in movie 10 are much better then budokai gohan

[PerfectFreeza]

Movie Time Chart

The Cell Games conclude
The Dangerous Duo! Super-Warriors Can't Rest
The 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai

We can infer from Videl's hairstyle and the fact that Goku is dead that this is right before the 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai.

His skills aren't really any better, than Budokai Gohan's.
That ''resting/not known to be strongest'' in M8 Gohan theory fits with what Daizenshuu 6 says.
Also works for Goku in M8, since he was impressed by Broly tanking Second Grade Vegeta's attack.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Except he didn't train in the gap, since Daizenshuu says so.
IMO, this is how it is:M8 Gohan=Semi-Cell<<<M10 Gohan=Buu saga Gohan<<Cell Games Gohan

Quote please

also his skills and fighting in movie 10 are much better then budokai gohan

Not really, Dabura was just too good for Gohan's skill to shine.

[Cardle grave]

Movie Time Chart

The Cell Games conclude
The Dangerous Duo! Super-Warriors Can't Rest
The 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai

We can infer from Videl's hairstyle and the fact that Goku is dead that this is right before the 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai.

His skills aren't really any better, than Budokai Gohan's.
That ''resting/not known to be strongest'' in M8 Gohan theory fits with what Daizenshuu 6 says.

Was this said in the daizenshuu 6 or on the timeline on Kazenshuu ?

he was much smarter fighter against a Much stronger foe.

[TheMightyOzaru]

It's from the Daizenshuu 6.

[PerfectFreeza]

In the Daizenshuu 6.The same one, that said M10 SSJ Broly's power surpassses (presumably Buu saga) SSJ Goku's power.
Well, who's to say Dabra isn't equal to or stronger than M10 LSSJ Broly?He could be.
Also, Broly really isn't that smart and skilled, unlike Dabra, who even has magic on his side.
Even rusty Gohan could be greater than Broly skill-wise.

[Cardle grave]

In the Daizenshuu 6.The same one, that said M10 SSJ Broly's power surpassing (presumably Buu saga) SSJ Goku's power.
Well, who's to say Dabra isn't equal to or stronger than M10 LSSJ Broly?He could be.
Also, Broly really isn't that smart and skilled, unlike Dabra, who even has magic on his side.
Even rusty Gohan could be greater than Broly skill-wise.

Wow your saying that Dabura is equal to broly, I never knew getting 3 shot mean rivaling

Gohan quickly knew lava was the only way to beat Broly, While against dabura he couldn't figure anything out.


I need the proper quote for Dazienshuu 6, Give me the link or something because i seen this on the Dazienshuu website

[PerfectFreeza]

Maybe.For all we know, he could be toying with Gohan the whole time.
He calls him trash later on and is fully confident in taking him out.
There wasn't lava in the battlefield, was there?
That's the quote, GTA.Check this link out:http://web.archive.org/web/201111040332 ... dbz10#link