Son Goku vs Sun Wukong

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Re: Son Goku vs Sun Wukong

Post by MDSTSSJ » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:41 am

TheGmGoken wrote:But the sun isn't the hottest thing in the universe. Hell a lighting bolt is hotter.
" The hottest known stars in the Universe are the blue hypergiant stars. These are stars with more than 100 times the mass of the Sun. One of the best known examples is Eta Carinae, located about 7,500 light-years from the Sun. Eta Carinae could be as large as 180 times the radius of the Sun, and its surface temperature is 36,000-40,000 Kelvin "

" The surface of the Sun is 5,778 Kelvin or about 5,500 oC
The core of the Sun is about 15,700,000 Kelvin or 15,700,000 oC

A lightning bolt is about 30,000 oC so hotter than the surface of the Sun.

A quasar is probably the hottest thing around, where the brightest ones
consume about 100 Suns per year "

" Our sun is very hot, but not as much as some other stars. The surface temperature of our sun is around 5500 to 6000 degrees Kelvin, about the same in °C. The inner core temperature is around 14.5 million degrees Kelvin. Blue stars are much hotter, with surface temperatures of blue hyper giant stars up to 40,000 degrees Kelvin and core temperatures of several million Kelvin.

Dying Stars can be very hot at the core, as they go through the last stages of life, fusing heavier and heavier atoms. In the final stages, some super massive red hyper giants can be undergoing silicon fusion, where temperatures are up to 2,700,000,000 (2.7 billion) Kelvin. During a supernova explosion, core temperatures can reach 100 billion Kelvin "

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Re: Son Goku vs Sun Wukong

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:44 am

I already knew this....

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Re: Son Goku vs Sun Wukong

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:05 am

TheGmGoken wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Care to collaborate on that one? Nothing is stated that Vegetto is weaker than him. And I'd appreciate it if you could quote a DBGT guidebook that says about Vegeto being stronger than SSj4 Goku.
How about the statement of Birsu being the strongest thing in DBZ HISTORY and in the movie Whis > Birsu.

DBGT Quote:
Super Vegetto is perhaps stronger than SSJ4 Goku.
So even if SSJ1 isn't stronger that SSJ4 which the GT statement implies he is about equal or slightly stronger Vegetoo has SSJ2 and SSJ3,
Next time, post the actual quotes instead of making them up.

Herms translated this:
Dragon Ball GT TV Special Film Animation Comic (extras section) wrote:
Merging With Vegeta!
After Goku and Vegeta use a merging item to merge, they become Vegetto! They can furthermore become a Super Saiyan, making them Super Vegetto! After the two strongest people merge, they become the greatest master in the universe! Perhaps even stronger than Super Saiyan 4!
This comic was released in 23 July 1997, and at that point, the latest GT episode was ep. 53. And at that point, the only known Super Saiyan 4 was Goku. So Super Vegetto >= SS4 Goku.
V-Jump wrote:We’ll be blunt about this at least: “Birusu” is without a doubt the strongest being in the history of “Z”!!!
The previous strongest character we saw in DBZ was Super Vegetto, so Beers is stronger than Super Vegetto. Also, when Goku transformed into a Super Saiyan God, he said that he never imagined that such a realm existed, most likely referring to his power. Goku knew Super Vegetto's true power, and also knows how strong Super Saiyan 3 makes you. So, he should be able to have an estimation of SS3 Vegetto's power, like he had an estimation of SS Gotenks' power. But since his power in Super Saiyan God was unimaginable, this means that SSG Goku is way stronger than SS3 Vegetto, and Beers is stated to be even stronger than SSG Goku.

So, Super Saiyan God is much, much stronger than Super Saiyan 4.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Son Goku vs Sun Wukong

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:07 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Next time, post the actual quotes instead of making them up.
There is absolutely no need for a rude comment like this. You can simply post up the information that you consider helpful without making back-handed editorialization in the process.
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Re: Son Goku vs Sun Wukong

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:28 pm

Next time, post the actual quotes instead of making them up.

Herms translated this:

Perhaps even stronger than Super Saiyan 4!
Here is what is what I said
Super Vegetto is perhaps stronger than SSJ4 Goku.
. Pretty much the same just paraphrased since both quotes said the same thing..... Also EP 53 is in the Shenron Arc. 7 star dragon. So basically you said the same thing I said but in a more explained form. I just paraphrased it.
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Re: Son Goku vs Sun Wukong

Post by Dr. Machismo » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:38 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Next time, post the actual quotes instead of making them up.
There is absolutely no need for a rude comment like this. You can simply post up the information that you consider helpful without making back-handed editorialization in the process.
He's just recommending that he post the actual quote; nothing rude.
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