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by TheGmGoken » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:33 pm
Gyt Kaliba wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:Anime Series: She did horrible. Her voice killed my ears twice(Had to go to surgery).
No offense if you actually did have to have ear surgery at some point in your life...but I'm calling BS on it being Nadolny's voice that caused it.


. Nah I did't really have it. It'll be funny if Steph was the caused. Let's be honest here. No one can live up to Korean Gohan, Goten, or Goku. Korean Goten > Nozawa's Goten. Nozawa is better for Goku and Gohan though.
thatdbzguy wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:Video Games: Her Gohan was amazing. Perfection almost.
Anime Series: She did horrible. Her voice killed my ears twice(Had to go to surgery).
Did you sue?
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by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:45 pm
Around the cell arc she was superb!
The Namek-Freeza stuff was bad (not-redub). But tbh everyone was bad then.
Re-dub wasn't as bad, just sounded way too much like Kid Goku.
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by Valerius Dover » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:07 pm
I actually like both Nadolny's and Clinkenbeard's performances. Nadolny started off imitating Henderson but then moved on to make it her own distinct voice. Sure, it sounds awkward a few times in the Fr
ieza and Garlic Jr. Sagas, but it gets a lot better after that. Clinkenbeard goes for a more realistic approach that's also good, and more like the Japanese voice. Personally I don't mind that Nadolny's take sounds nothing like a real 4, 5, 6, or 9 year old. This is a series where pigs fly.
Also, I think it's odd to criticize the voice for being too similar to Goku's as a kid when the Japanese version did the same exact thing.

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by TheGmGoken » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:09 pm
Valerius Dover wrote:
Also, I think it's odd to criticize the voice for being too similar to Goku's as a kid when the Japanese version did the same exact thing.

No it didn't. Besides screams Nozawa's Gohan sounded MUCH different from Nozawa's Goku.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:16 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:Valerius Dover wrote:
Also, I think it's odd to criticize the voice for being too similar to Goku's as a kid when the Japanese version did the same exact thing.

No it didn't. Besides screams Nozawa's Gohan sounded MUCH different from Nozawa's Goku.
I'd agree and disagree both. Does Nozawa's Gohan sound different from her Goku? Yes, but only just enough to be noticeable, and a lot of that comes from the characters being so wildly different. The exact same situation happens with Nadolny's Goku. It's still very clearly the same actress doing the same voice, but the character itself is so different that it aids in separating the role further, for both her in the booth (I assume, anyway), and for us as an audience.
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by ABED » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:19 pm
The scene that showcases Nadolny's Gohan at her most obnoxious is in movie 1 after Gohan gets drunk. She doesn't sing but that melody that she has Gohan play is so annoying, it makes me want to pull my arm off just so I have something to throw at her.
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by Valerius Dover » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:22 pm
ABED wrote:The scene that showcases Nadolny's Gohan at her most obnoxious is in movie 1 after Gohan gets drunk. She doesn't sing but that melody that she has Gohan play is so annoying, it makes me want to pull my arm off just so I have something to throw at her.
Ok, I'll give you that...that one is pretty horrible. She must've been drunk herself when they did that.
(Maybe to make it authentic or something? XD I don't know. As much as I like her work, I'll admit this one moment is bad, especially with the Japanese instrumental on)
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by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:35 pm
I can only assume they didn't have Nadolny actually sing something there since it may have been too rough on her vocal cords, since singing is her main career. But yeah, I'll give you that that part was pretty bad...but eh. As I've said before, Gohan at that age is annoying to me no matter who plays him. I'd join you in throwing arms just for the pure joy of knocking him off screen.
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by ABED » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:38 pm
Gyt Kaliba wrote:I can only assume they didn't have Nadolny actually sing something there since it may have been too rough on her vocal cords, since singing is her main career. But yeah, I'll give you that that part was pretty bad...but eh. As I've said before, Gohan at that age is annoying to me no matter who plays him. I'd join you in throwing arms just for the pure joy of knocking him off screen.
The scene is pretty adorable in the original and even when Henderson plays it.
I'll admit this one moment is bad, especially with the Japanese instrumental on
Really? It mitigated it for me slightly. The English score is bland and it just reinforces how terrible her laugh is.
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by dbboxkaifan » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:40 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:Video Games: Her Gohan was amazing. Perfection almost.
Anime Series: She did horrible. Her voice killed my ears twice(Had to go to surgery).
That's how I feel about Colleen both ways, she's done a somewhat decent job on the games' dubs but the anime series is just ear-raping which is why I avoid her voice.
If I weren't a fan of Nozawa then I would watch Dragon Ball with the English dub because Stephanie did a great job voicing Goku.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:41 pm
ABED wrote:The scene is pretty adorable in the original and even when Henderson plays it.
It's a lot more bearable and cuter in both of those cases, yeah. But I still can't shake how annoying Gohan at this point in the main story is for me. I guess it's more on me than it is the performances though.
I do love when he pees on poor Kuririn though.
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by ABED » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:42 pm
dbboxkaifan wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:Video Games: Her Gohan was amazing. Perfection almost.
Anime Series: She did horrible. Her voice killed my ears twice(Had to go to surgery).
That's how I feel about Colleen both ways, she's done a somewhat decent job on the games' dubs but the anime series is just ear-raping which is why I avoid her voice.
If I weren't a fan of Nozawa then I would watch Dragon Ball with the English dub because Stephanie did a great job voicing Goku.
Ear raping is so strong that I can't see it. Seriously, what scene bugs you that much?
When Nadolny screams, her combination of rasp and high pitch is ear bleeding, but Colleen's is the one that bothers you?
"great" really is subjective because I wouldn't call her unnatural cadence even good, much less great.
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by TheGmGoken » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:42 pm
dbboxkaifan wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:Video Games: Her Gohan was amazing. Perfection almost.
Anime Series: She did horrible. Her voice killed my ears twice(Had to go to surgery).
That's how I feel about Colleen both ways, she's done a somewhat decent job on the games' dubs but the anime series is just ear-raping which is why I avoid her voice.
If I weren't a fan of Nozawa then I would watch Dragon Ball with the English dub because Stephanie did a great job voicing Goku.
I enjoy Colleen's Gohan. Hate her Goku though. You should learn Korean. Korean Kid Goku sounds like a wild boy

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by ABED » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:45 pm
I can't remember who said it on here, but one person criticized Colleen for making Goku sound like a "wild jungle boy" which struck me as odd.
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by WittyUsername » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:01 pm
ABED wrote:dbboxkaifan wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:Video Games: Her Gohan was amazing. Perfection almost.
Anime Series: She did horrible. Her voice killed my ears twice(Had to go to surgery).
That's how I feel about Colleen both ways, she's done a somewhat decent job on the games' dubs but the anime series is just ear-raping which is why I avoid her voice.
If I weren't a fan of Nozawa then I would watch Dragon Ball with the English dub because Stephanie did a great job voicing Goku.
Ear raping is so strong that I can't see it. Seriously, what scene bugs you that much?
When Nadolny screams, her combination of rasp and high pitch is ear bleeding, but Colleen's is the one that bothers you?
"great" really is subjective because I wouldn't call her unnatural cadence even good, much less great.
I'm pretty sure Clinkenbeard's Gohan had a much higher pitch to it compared to Nadolny. Anyway, I don't see why people get into these heated debates, both Nadolny and Clinkenbeard have their pros and cons in my opinion.
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by ABED » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:13 pm
WittyUsername wrote:Ear raping is so strong that I can't see it. Seriously, what scene bugs you that much?
When Nadolny screams, her combination of rasp and high pitch is ear bleeding, but Colleen's is the one that bothers you?
"great" really is subjective because I wouldn't call her unnatural cadence even good, much less great.
I'm pretty sure Clinkenbeard's Gohan had a much higher pitch to it compared to Nadolny. Anyway, I don't see why people get into these heated debates, both Nadolny and Clinkenbeard have their pros and cons in my opinion.[/quote]But it's the combination of the pitch and the rasp. Colleen doesn't have the rasp.
In my opinion, Nadolny has no pros. Her Goku is among my least favorite voices. Her Gohan is much better but it's still nothing to write home about. It's only slightly less annoying than Vollmer.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:18 pm
I dunno, Colleen's is still raspy. It's very much a new take on the voice she uses for Luffy in One Piece, and both are very raspy. If it's less grating on your ears than Nadolny's was, I can see that, yeah - but both voices have rasp.
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by WittyUsername » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:18 pm
I don't think that either Nadolny nor Clinkenbeard were very smooth to listen to.They both sounded annoying occasionally,which is sort of in character for kid Gohan. Henderson's Gohan on the other hand, never really sounded annoying, but her voice was pretty generic.
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by Valerius Dover » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:19 pm
ABED wrote:Gyt Kaliba wrote:I can only assume they didn't have Nadolny actually sing something there since it may have been too rough on her vocal cords, since singing is her main career. But yeah, I'll give you that that part was pretty bad...but eh. As I've said before, Gohan at that age is annoying to me no matter who plays him. I'd join you in throwing arms just for the pure joy of knocking him off screen.
The scene is pretty adorable in the original and even when Henderson plays it.
I'll admit this one moment is bad, especially with the Japanese instrumental on
Really? It mitigated it for me slightly. The English score is bland and it just reinforces how terrible her laugh is.
Just a difference of opinion. I guess, for me, it just sounded awkward knowing the Japanese song and everything. (Just to clear something up, I'm not talking about the whole score, as I like both Kikuchi's and Menza's music for this movie). I think it would've been better had they silenced the voice for that part for the 5.1 option. But hey, that's just me. I still think the JP music in general mixed with the English voices makes for a surreal experience (obviously not counting original DB or DBZ Kai). I prefer US music with English voices, and JP music with JP voices. So, don't take my word for it there.
Back on topic, anyway, I still think Gohan's voice is great, although I still think the English dub should've gone with a different voice like they did with Goten. (Which makes me wonder what the situation in English Buu Kai would've been had they decided to dub it)
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by baneofdemon22 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:23 pm
I don't think it was that bad. The raspyness bugs me, but I get used to it. Although the voice was too gruff, it could sound really joyful and sweet to me. The voice may have been off, but from her performance, I felt like she understood the character. She really needs to tone down the gravel! Nadolny's Goku, however, I think is great!