I know he doesn't have them in the film itself, but I thought they gave them to him in the extra scenes with him at the beginning of the Author's Cut. It would be inconsistent if they had, but maybe he was preparing to send Goku the Potara the same way Kaio sent him the dogi in the Saiyan Arc.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Actually, Rou Kaioshin doesn't have them.
Haven't seen that scene yet, so I can't confirm. But I've seen the extra scene with them in the end, and only Kibitoshin has them.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I know he doesn't have them in the film itself, but I thought they gave them to him in the extra scenes with him at the beginning of the Author's Cut.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Surprised by the existence of its feeling.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But Goku was surprised with its existence, not its feeling.
You are right, I completely forgot that! This makes perfect sense, since Rou Kaioshin doesn't have any, while only Kibitoshin has them.Low Tone G wrote:For Potaras:
In total there were three pairs of potaras and not two in the Majin Buu saga. A pair was owned by Elder Kaioshin and given to Goku to use it to merge with Gohan, but that was used to create Vegetto. The other ones are a bit confusing because Kibito had a pair and East Kaioshin also had a pair. They fused in that way they took off one and one, and the others were hold in their hands. And finally Kibito-Kaioshin gave Goku and Vegeta the from his ears, but those were broken by them instead of using. The ones that were not used in any conditions we don't know happened to. I think this pair is we can see in the ears of Kibito-Kai in B.o.G.
He is surprised, but also disappointed. Why would he be disappointed for being a god if he is not talking about its power?hleV wrote:Surprised by the existence of its feeling.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But Goku was surprised with its existence, not its feeling.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Knowing that there was nothing to stop Goku to merge with Vegeta and create Vegetto, we can assume without any worry that Beerus could beat Vegetto(as SSJ3 too) very easily. If not be the case and Vegetto would have had the power to beat Beerus entering in Mr. Buu's body they could have still defused. I'm glad to know that Vegetto was option, but was useless, though.You are right, I completely forgot that! This makes perfect sense, since Rou Kaioshin doesn't have any, while only Kibitoshin has them.
Probably not, but most likely he would have ended like Enraged Vegeta, when Beerus realised he has to overwhelm him using more power.goku the krump dancer wrote:Even if Beerus is superior to Threegetto I highly doubt he's one shot finger flicking him away.
This is after Vegeta hears Goku was defeated in two blows. He's regardless surprised that Beerus was so strong. In Herms' BOG strength run-down, he says this about Goku:Meanwhile, Whis goes off to a nearby sushi stand. He has never seen sushi before, and is very interested in this new treat. Back at the fight, Vegeta is sent flying with a kick and Goten and Trunks decide to fuse into Super Saiyan Gotenks. Beerus acknowledges that Gotenks has good fighting sense if nothing else, but as Vegeta feared Gotenks is absolutely no match for Beerus, who literally spanks him. Vegeta says he knew Beerus was fearsome, but he did not imagine he would be this far above them and thinks it really is the end
He applies the same logic to Gohan.After hearing how Beers beat SSj3 Goku in two blows, Vegeta assumes Gotenks and everyone else on Earth can't beat Beers, and the eventual fight bears this out. So apparently by now the relationship between Goku and Gotenks is either that SSj3 Goku is stronger, or Gotenks is not stronger than Goku by enough of a margin to defeat someone strong enough to beat Goku in two blows.]
But is that assumption really likely, in light of what Vegeta said above? Why would he be so surprised at how powerful Beerus is if Goku is around as strong as Gotenks and Gohan? If Beerus can defeat Goku in two blows, then logically he should also be able to defeat Gohan, who is apparently weaker than Goku, and everyone else, who are much weaker than Gohan, with even less effort, right? Assuming Goku really is around SS3 Gotenks/Ultimate Gohan level (or stronger), defeating Gohan would be the only feat of note for Vegeta to be surprised that Beerus can do (as SS3 Goku is far stronger than Vegeta and SS Gotenks, apparently, if he's really stronger than SS3 Gotenks). But again, he'd have no reason to be surprised by Beerus dispatching Gohan with a kick and headbutt if he could dispatch someone stronger than Gohan with just a flick and a chop.Vegeta likewise assumes that none of the gang on Earth can stand up to Beers, and events bear this out [implying that SSj3 Goku is stronger than Gohan and Gotenks by this point? Or maybe Gohan/Gotenks are still stronger, but not strong enough to beat SSj3 Goku in two blows, so Vegeta knows they're no match for anyone strong enough to defeat Goku so easily
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
I refuse to accept this idea..Polyphase Avatron wrote:Beerus > SSJ3 Vegeto, deal with it
I don't think too much about the line because Goku has zero clue how strong Vegeta himself has gotten since then when he made that comment which would through his fusion comment completely off.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I think you are not confusing this with not considering SS3 for Gotenks to beat Fat Boo. Which makes sense, because SS3 wasn't needed for Gotenks to beat him, and because neither could Gotenks, nor could Goten or Trunks turn into Super Saiyan 3.Nazi Cola wrote:The logic I see some people use for a hypothetical Gogeta in the Boo arc is that the characters weren't considering Super Saiyan 3, just Super Saiyan 1.
Well, of course Goku shouldn't be able to tell for sure since he never tried to merge with Vegeta & fight Beerus to confirm this, but it's very likely that if they had merged, they wouldn't be able to beat him.Kaboom wrote:Julian did say "probably" in his tweet.
