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Re: Annoying things people say about DB/Z (No repetitions)

Post by Valerius Dover » Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:14 pm

The Dragon Box is simply catering to a different part of the fanbase than the ones who would actually be interested in the Johnson and Faulconer scores. It's meant for fans of the original, and the English dub itself is only considered secondary on those sets.
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Post by Ringworm128 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:45 pm

The whole "they all have spiky hair" thing. The only characters that have spiked hair are the SSJ's and Yamcha (Cell arc). Granted there are more then a few SSJ's but apart from that most of the characters have straight hair or none at all, and a few with messy hair like Goku or Yajirobe. If you use the whole spiky hair thing in an argument against DBZ I'm going to think your entire knowledge of the series comes from watching a Toonami promo as a kid or glancing over a wiki article.

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Post by AGentlemanSaiyan » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:58 am

Just came to mind.... I think everyone hates it when people think Broly is like a God. Five minutes ago I was looking at BoG stuff and someone said they think SSJ3 Broly would easily win against Beerus.... Yeah I like Broly.... But SPC would kick his ass lol. Stuff Like that makes me sad that their unkowningly going out and saying things purly based on opinion not any facts. But I think a lot of people do that, especially this day in age. Not saying its bad to express your opinion, but when you know they are wrong...It hurts not to correct them.

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Re: Annoying things people say about DB/Z (No repetitions)

Post by ChiChiFan » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:54 am

Goku is a bad father.
The story was simple, not deep.
No character development.(Strongly disagree)
Took ten episodes for a fight to happen.
The list goes on and on. DBZ is a flawed series but I still love the show after all these years. It seems like it's popular to criticize a show that is seen as the greatest.

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Post by baneofdemon22 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:11 am

I don't like the elitist attitude of bashing Z to make Dragon Ball sound better, because they know a lot of people haven't watched the first part of the story. Or disregard any part of the story to make themselves known as "better fans." I also don't like people bashing Dragon Ball for it being to childish compared to Z, or disregarding it as all childish comedy, ignoring any dramatic moments like Krillin's death, and the whole Piccolo arc.

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Post by DonZ » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:19 pm

People saying that Dragon Ball Z is just "power beams and random attacks" with no strategy at all. i'm not saying Dragon Ball strategies are the best, and i know there's a lot of fights with no strategies, but saying all of them are "random attacks and power beams" is beyond ridiculous.

How did Vegeta loses to Goku in the first battle? yeah, team-work and strategy. he was actually winning the battle, just when Kuririn, Yajirobe and Gohan kicks in and save the day through a STRATEGY on how would they defeat someone who is stronger than them by miles.

same thing with the Genkei Dama attack. it's a normal attack tbh, but how it used is what matters. it isn't just collecting power and randomly throwing it. it's actually require a strategy. just like how Goku used it against Freeza.
not to mention the DB fights, especially the Tenkaichi Budokai fights. but i guess people already know that. it's just about Z.

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Post by Ajay » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:37 pm

My housemate keeps saying to me, 'man, I get the Japanese version has all that blood and gore but I don't know how you watch it with those voices!'.

I hear that kinda thing a lot and it gets kinda old. Not entirely sure where the notion that the Japanese 'version' is somehow more adult than the English one comes from. Is it really a relic of old times? I mean...it's been over a decade now!
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Post by Valerius Dover » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:23 am

AjayLikesGaming wrote:My housemate keeps saying to me, 'man, I get the Japanese version has all that blood and gore but I don't know how you watch it with those voices!'.

I hear that kinda thing a lot and it gets kinda old. Not entirely sure where the notion that the Japanese 'version' is somehow more adult than the English one comes from. Is it really a relic of old times? I mean...it's been over a decade now!
You mean the people who aren't aware that the English version is uncut, too?
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Post by thatdbzguy » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:30 am

DonZ wrote:People saying that Dragon Ball Z is just "power beams and random attacks" with no strategy at all.
They're not wrong. The vast majority of DBZ's fights are just throwing out generic ki blasts with different names and/or constant punching, or boring one-sided fights. The only time they use any kind of strategy is when they either team up to do all of the stuff I just mentioned, or when Goku did that underwater trick against Freeza.

Dragon Ball, on the other hand, actually incorporated strategy for a large portion of its fights.
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Post by Ajay » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:33 am

Valerius Dover wrote:
You mean the people who aren't aware that the English version is uncut, too?
Huh? That's what I'm implying in my post, yes.
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Post by DonZ » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:48 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:
DonZ wrote:People saying that Dragon Ball Z is just "power beams and random attacks" with no strategy at all.
They're not wrong. The vast majority of DBZ's fights are just throwing out generic ki blasts with different names and/or constant punching, or boring one-sided fights. The only time they use any kind of strategy is when they either team up to do all of the stuff I just mentioned, or when Goku did that underwater trick against Freeza.

Dragon Ball, on the other hand, actually incorporated strategy for a large portion of its fights.
lolno. it's just that you go by what majority of people or the freaking "hardcore" anime fans say. like, who gives a shit what they think?! i think if they change their minds to "the original Dragon Ball doesn't have a strategic fights" you're gonna agree with them!
I've given an examples in my post. i guess that's enough.

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Post by El Diabeetus » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:00 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:
AjayLikesGaming wrote:My housemate keeps saying to me, 'man, I get the Japanese version has all that blood and gore but I don't know how you watch it with those voices!'.

I hear that kinda thing a lot and it gets kinda old. Not entirely sure where the notion that the Japanese 'version' is somehow more adult than the English one comes from. Is it really a relic of old times? I mean...it's been over a decade now!
You mean the people who aren't aware that the English version is uncut, too?
Visually perhaps, however script wise. Debatable, kinda funny how with Kai it's the opposite. More uncut in the script but a little censored in the video department. But, that's if you compare the video of Z and Kai.

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Post by DonZ » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:09 pm

What Dragon Ball Z fights lacks isn't strategies like most people think, cuz it has good amount of them. what DBZ fights lacks is the sense of creativity that we had in the original Dragon Ball. the complete reliance of Ki, power beams and power-ups killed it.

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Post by thatdbzguy » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:18 pm

DonZ wrote:What Dragon Ball Z fights lacks isn't strategies like most people think, cuz it has good amount of them. what DBZ fights lacks is the sense of creativity that we had in the original Dragon Ball. the complete reliance of Ki, power beams and power-ups killed it.
It lacks both strategy and inventiveness, which is why I cringe whenever someone calls it the best action anime.
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:26 pm

Then what is best action anime to you?
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:48 pm

- Goku always wins
- The show is nothing more then people powering up and screaming
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:12 pm

Not only is "strategy" over blown in general, theres plenty of it in DBZ. It just doesnt seem that way when theres a stomp fest going on.

Goku making Freeza cut himself.. strategy.

Piccolo's "Hellzone Grenade".. strategy.

Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack.. strategy.

Vegeta taunting Cell into taking his Final Flash head on.. strategy.

The way Trunks kills Freeza.. strategy.

Vegeta letting some of his energy get stolen to confirm that thats how 19 and 20 drain energy, before ripping his arms off and finishing fatso off.. strategy.

Krillin's Spread energy blast thing he used to kill the remaining Saibamen.. Strategy.

Human Extinction Attack.. Strategy.

Boo taunting Gotenks so he could absorb him and Piccolo.. strategy.

Boo not putting the tail end of his tentacle back on when Goku chopped it off, because he knew the fusion was wearing off so he saved it so he could absorb Gohan.. strategy.

Need I go on?
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