What fan fiction would actually make a good series?

[Doctor.]

I'm flattered that GTR has been name-dropped a few times, but I'm still perplexed that its story can be held in such high regard when so far I've only finished or revealed like 10-20% of it at most.

You better get to work if you want those nominations to be worth considering then!

[rereboy]

It's their opinion of simply not liking the material. It doesn't really matter. They exaggerated but so what? Exaggeration is supposed to be ridiculous.

99% of the times, if they are honest, they actually don't believe in what they are saying. Which means that they are just exaggerating and being unfair towards what they are criticizing for no good reason since they aren't trying to do comedy or anything like that. And it doesn't sit right with me people being unfair about stuff with no real reason, that's just how it is.

Even in this topic, we have users agreeing that anything is better than DBM but afterwards they claim DBM is average. So, obviously, they don't actually believe anything would be better, they are just treating what they are criticizing unfairly for the heck of it. Like I said, that doesn't sit well with me and so I point it out.

[dbzfan7]

It's their opinion of simply not liking the material. It doesn't really matter. They exaggerated but so what? Exaggeration is supposed to be ridiculous.

99% of the times, if they are honest, they actually don't believe in what they are saying. Which means that they are just exaggerating and being unfair towards what they are criticizing for no good reason since they aren't trying to do comedy or anything like that. And it doesn't sit right with me people being unfair about stuff with no real reason, that's just how it is.

Even in this topic, we have users agreeing that anything is better than DBM but afterwards they claim DBM is average. So, obviously, they don't actually believe anything would be better, they are just treating what they are criticizing unfairly for the heck of it. Like I said, that doesn't sit well with me and so I point it out.

I don't why you really care? You know it, and they know it's not really the worst thing ever. They've read it, they made their judgement. 2 people aren't suddenly gonna make a product worse from their opinion. Who cares.

[TheGmGoken]

Anything BUT Multiverse..

Motherfucking this.
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Anything but DBMV. I don't want to see anything MV related. Not with Gast, Broly, and them specials.

But if we're trying to make money then DBMV being popular is best choice. But easily one of the worse choices for someone like me.

[Bacon Skittles]

I wouldn't say Multiverse is overhyped. It's just the only well-known DBZ (not GT) fan work that, well, ummm... doesn't stink and understands its source material. =P

That's the point. It doesn't suck and stays true to the source material (though at times in a DB Heroes kind of way.)

[rereboy]

I don't why you really care? You know it, and they know it's not really the worst thing ever. They've read it, they made their judgement. 2 people aren't suddenly gonna make a product worse from their opinion. Who cares.

Because I don't particularly like unfair stuff and thus I point it out...?

[dbzfan7]

I don't why you really care? You know it, and they know it's not really the worst thing ever. They've read it, they made their judgement. 2 people aren't suddenly gonna make a product worse from their opinion. Who cares.

Because I don't particularly unfair stuff and thus I point it out...?

They don't like it. That's all there is too it. Unless they suddenly start polluting a bunch of people with their opinions who haven't read the comic, they are just. They don't like the comic, I'm with them. I don't like it either. The only unfair thing is if they turn other people away before they have a chance to form their own opinion. As of now it's just an exaggeration. They could be genuine and have just said "I don't want DBM as it's shit." That would get the same point across without exaggerating, which is simply they don't like it.

[rereboy]

They don't like it. That's all there is too it. Unless they suddenly start polluting a bunch of people with their opinions who haven't read the comic, they are just. They don't like the comic, I'm with them. I don't like it either. The only unfair thing is if they turn other people away before they have a chance to form their own opinion. As of now it's just an exaggeration. They could be genuine and have just said "I don't want DBM as it's shit." That would get the same point across without exaggerating, which is simply they don't like it.

Since when not liking something stops someone from being fair in their review or critique of it...?

If I go watch a movie and I end up not really liking it but I know that its quality was around average or perhaps even bad but nowhere near as bad as some stuff out there, and then someone asks me what was it like, what do you think is the non-sucky option:

a) state: "It was the worst movie ever! Any other movie in the history of ever is better than this and every thing about it is worse than bad!"

b) actually give a fair and honest opinion and review of it.

I appreciate people being honest and being fair. I don't really appreciate when they aren't being honest and fair and are just exaggerating for no real purpose, and I point that out many times. That's all there is to it.

[dbzfan7]

They don't like it. That's all there is too it. Unless they suddenly start polluting a bunch of people with their opinions who haven't read the comic, they are just. They don't like the comic, I'm with them. I don't like it either. The only unfair thing is if they turn other people away before they have a chance to form their own opinion. As of now it's just an exaggeration. They could be genuine and have just said "I don't want DBM as it's shit." That would get the same point across without exaggerating, which is simply they don't like it.

Since when not liking something stops someone from being fair in their review or critique of it...?

If I go watch a movie and I end up not really liking it but I know that its quality was around average or perhaps even bad but nowhere near as bad as some stuff out there, and then someone asks me what was it like, what do you think is the non-sucky option:

a) state: "It was the worst movie ever! Any other movie in the history of ever is better than this and every thing about it is worse than bad!"

b) actually give a fair and honest opinion and review of it.

I appreciate people being honest and being fair. I don't really appreciate when they aren't being honest and fair and are just exaggerating for no real purpose, and I point that out many times. That's all there is to it.

They don't like it. End of story. They don't have to be fair. DBM failed to entertain them. The end.

[HG-Project]

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =6&t=16525
This one! Still remember it because it was very fun to read. It would be a nice, short series.
Anything like this one, I'd personally pounce at--It has a clear (simple, but solid) story, charming characters, and is very imaginative. The author has his shit together and actually works with Toriyama's universe at hand but still gives it his own twist, which I really dig.
By actually being invested in the characters and the story he wants to tell us, he also doesn't have to resort to the typical power circle jerking/stupidly overpowered characters or overly melodramatic and implausible romantic clusterfuck as an audience-garnering crutch that sadly takes up the majority of fan works we have today (even well-known ones).

[rereboy]

They don't like it. End of story. They don't have to be fair. DBM failed to entertain them. The end.

Example of option B: "Well, I didn't like it. It didn't feel very original and the acting was average at best. The story had a few good moments but didn't satisfy much. I would say it's pretty average, perhaps I would rate it as 10/20 or 8/20, something like that, if you would ask me for a rating".

Apparently, option B allows anyone to make it clear that they didn't like the movie and that it didn't really entertain them, while still being honest and fair...

And yeah, they don't have to be fair... Just like people don't have to be civil or do a lot of things... And yet we generally appreciate when they are and when they do, and people are often pointed towards that fact... As such I appreciate when people are honest and fair, and don't appreciate the opposite, and I often point towards that.

[dbzfan7]

They don't like it. End of story. They don't have to be fair. DBM failed to entertain them. The end.

Example of option B: "Well, I didn't like it. It didn't feel very original and the acting was average at best. The story had a few good moments but didn't satisfy much. I would say it's pretty average, perhaps I would rate it as 10/20 or 8/20, something like that, if you would ask me for a rating".

Apparently, option B allows anyone to make it clear that they didn't like the movie and that it didn't really entertain them, while still being honest and fair. And yeah, they don't have to be fair... Just like people don't have to be civil or do a lot of things... And yet we generally appreciate when they are and when they do and are often pointed towards that fact... I appreciate when people are honest and fair and I often point towards that fact.

A movie can be objectively good and still not be liked. I was bored watching Jaws, The Dark Knight Rises, and one Morgan Freeman movie which all received high praise. They didn't like DBM. I don't like DBM. Above all if we're not entertained, then we simply pass. Simply saying "DBM is boring or didn't interest me" is good enough. Some people may enjoy discussing deeper into what they like or don't like, and others just state they really don't like something and move on. If they're off put on something you feel is good, then they're missing out. So who really cares?

[rereboy]

A movie can be objectively good and still not be liked. I was bored watching Jaws, The Dark Knight Rises, and one Morgan Freeman movie which all received high praise. They didn't like DBM. I don't like DBM. Above all if we're not entertained, then we simply pass. Simply saying "DBM is boring or didn't interest me" is good enough. Some people may enjoy discussing deeper into what they like or don't like, and others just state they really don't like something and move on. If they're off put on something you feel is good, then they're missing out. So who really cares?

I don't care at all if you don't like those movies and aren't a fan of them.

However, I can't say I would appreciate if you started saying "Anything but The Dark Knight Rises! Worst movie ever!", not because you can't have your own opinion, but because it would be 99% sure that you weren't being honest and fair and I might point that out to you.

Maybe you wouldn't care when people are being obviously unfair and not honest when talking about stuff, but I would most likely care. Honestly and fairness are qualities I appreciate so I act accordingly. Sorry if that somehow bothers you.

[TheGmGoken]

"Anything but The Dark Knight Rises! Worst movie ever!" because it would be 99% sure that you weren't being honest and fair and I might point that out to you.

That's an exaggeration. Which...is supposed to stretch the truth and sound unreasonable. Similar to when someone say "This taste like shit". It's an exaggeration. Not unfair at all.

[KentalSSJ6]

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =6&t=16525
This one! Still remember it because it was very fun to read. It would be a nice, short series.
Anything like this one, I'd personally pounce at--It has a clear (simple, but solid) story, charming characters, and is very imaginative. The author has his shit together and actually works with Toriyama's universe at hand but still gives it his own twist, which I really dig.
By actually being invested in the characters and the story he wants to tell us, he also doesn't have to resort to the typical power circle jerking/stupidly overpowered characters or overly melodramatic and implausible romantic clusterfuck as an audience-garnering crutch that sadly takes up the majority of fan works we have today (even well-known ones).

That isnt dick butt on page 23 is it...?

[rereboy]

That's an exaggeration. Which...is supposed to stretch the truth and sound unreasonable. Similar to when someone say "This taste like shit". It's an exaggeration. Not unfair at all.

Like I said, I just appreciate honesty and fairness in the discussions I'm in. If people are just gonna exaggerate instead of being honest and fair about stuff, then I don't appreciate it. If they have an actual legitimate purpose in exaggerating and then they can talk honestly and fairly about it, that's fine. Otherwise, I don't really appreciate it.

[HG-Project]

That isnt dick butt on page 23 is it...?

Yeah, it got pretty outlandish towards the end, lol
(it's totally a dick butt cameo and that is terrifyingly beautiful.)

[FoolsGil]

Break Through the Limit.

[dbzfan7]

"Anything but The Dark Knight Rises! Worst movie ever!" because it would be 99% sure that you weren't being honest and fair and I might point that out to you.

That's an exaggeration. Which...is supposed to stretch the truth and sound unreasonable. Similar to when someone say "This taste like shit". It's an exaggeration. Not unfair at all.

Yeah it's as simple as that. Who really cares if that's someone's opinion. I've seen tons of opinions that DBZ is a piece of shit, and that's really all I need to hear. They don't like it, whatever. Only people I see taking offense are those who are so attached to DBZ they just can't accept it failed to entertain someone. They just need to know why and sometimes even then they won't accept the reason.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Ah, I just remembered (or more like saw one of their posts in another thread) the name of the author of 'Journey's End'! It's soulnova's fic.

I'm flattered that GTR has been name-dropped a few times, but I'm still perplexed that its story can be held in such high regard when so far I've only finished or revealed like 10-20% of it at most.

Hey, when something's good, it's good, doesn't matter if it's finished yet or not.