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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by BrolyLSSJ » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:58 pm

I wish this was canon.....
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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by Liborio93 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:09 pm

i love the art!

But personaly i think vegeta would one shot this guy..

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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:34 pm

Liborio93 wrote: But personaly i think vegeta would one shot this guy..
Highly unlikely, as that goes completely against the point of the series he's in.
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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by pacz360 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:47 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
Liborio93 wrote: But personaly i think vegeta would one shot this guy..
Highly unlikely, as that goes completely against the point of the series he's in.
Actually vegeta can beat saitama you answer hold valid when it's in opm manga which it isn't.

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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:56 pm

pacz360 wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:
Liborio93 wrote: But personaly i think vegeta would one shot this guy..
Highly unlikely, as that goes completely against the point of the series he's in.
Actually vegeta can beat saitama you answer hold valid when it's in opm manga which it isn't.
There isn't a special quality about Saitama's world that gives him super powers; the point of the character is that he can beat anyone with one punch. That's the joke...

If you write him into a story and don't follow that rule, then you're not being faithful to the character.
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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by pacz360 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:10 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
pacz360 wrote:[quote="fadeddreams5"

Highly unlikely, as that goes completely against the point of the series he's in.
Actually vegeta can beat saitama you answer hold valid when it's in opm manga which it isn't.
There isn't a special quality about Saitama's world that gives him super powers; the point of the character is that he can beat anyone with one punch. That's the joke...

If you write him into a story and don't follow that rule, then you're not being faithful to the character.[/quote]
Yet boros survived a couple of punches from him even while saitama held back plus

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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:20 pm

And when Saitama decided to get "serious," he one-shotted him. Boros later explains that Saitama didn't bare his fangs at all during that fight.

Lord Boros was practically a DBZ parody with the power-ups, transformations, regeneration, and planet-busting beam. He punched Saitama to the moon! lol.
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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by pacz360 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:23 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:And when Saitama decided to get "serious," he one-shotted him. Boros later explains that Saitama didn't bare his fangs at all during that fight.

Lord Boros was practically a DBZ parody with the power-ups and planet-busting beams. He punched Saitama to the moon! lol.
Boros attack wasn't planet busting seriously all he said was he was going to wipe out the planet surface heck going by the original comic he didn't mention how powerful it i like the show but saitama isnt as powerful people make him to be.

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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:32 pm

He has never shown a fraction of his powers. All we know is that he's one-shotted everyone, including the current strongest beings of his universe, besides those with regeneration. Every battle is meant to end with a punchline; the stronger the opponent, the crazier the super series ability we'll see Saitama bring out to one-shot him. One Punch Man isn't about a hero trying to bypass his limits like Goku.
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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by pacz360 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:39 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:He has never shown a fraction of his powers. All we know is that he's one-shotted everyone, including the current strongest beings of his universe, besides those with regeneration. Every battle is meant to end with a punchline; the stronger the opponent, the crazier the ability we'll see Saitama bring out to one-shot him.
In his show yes but if in others not really there's literally a shit ton of characters in fiction that could stomp him to the point it's which is not even funny.

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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:43 pm

pacz360 wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:He has never shown a fraction of his powers. All we know is that he's one-shotted everyone, including the current strongest beings of his universe, besides those with regeneration. Every battle is meant to end with a punchline; the stronger the opponent, the crazier the ability we'll see Saitama bring out to one-shot him.
In his show yes but if in others not really there's literally a shit ton of characters in fiction that could stomp him to the point it's which is not even funny.
What you're basically saying is "if he was written by his creator, yes, but if he's written by anyone else, no."

Naturally. :?
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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by pacz360 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:46 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
pacz360 wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:He has never shown a fraction of his powers. All we know is that he's one-shotted everyone, including the current strongest beings of his universe, besides those with regeneration. Every battle is meant to end with a punchline; the stronger the opponent, the crazier the ability we'll see Saitama bring out to one-shot him.
In his show yes but if in others not really there's literally a shit ton of characters in fiction that could stomp him to the point it's which is not even funny.
What you're basically saying is "if he was written by his creator, yes, but if he's written by anyone else, no."

Naturally. :?
Hey like stan lee said it depends on who the writer wants to win.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:06 pm

I have to agree that the spirit of the character dictates he can't lose. His entire character is about "What good is power, if nothing can ever challenge you." It's made Saitama empty inside as absolutely nothing can challenge him. He always holds back if there might be a fight he can enjoy even just for a bit. He's the anti shonen character. While Goku strives to be the best, Saitama is the best. If Goku were Saitama, then he too would probably get extremely bored and feel little joy in life.
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Post by pacz360 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:22 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:I have to agree that the spirit of the character dictates he can't lose. His entire character is about "What good is power, if nothing can ever challenge you." It's made Saitama empty inside as absolutely nothing can challenge him. He always holds back if there might be a fight he can enjoy even just for a bit. He's the anti shonen character. While Goku strives to be the best, Saitama is the best. If Goku were Saitama, then he too would probably get extremely bored and feel little joy in life.
As i said going by his universe logic sure but put him against goku,superman,thor,hulk,thanos,seiya etc in a neutral site he is gonna lose due how powerful these guys are the guys saitama fought while strong are no where impressive to guys mentioned here faced not to mention his lack of hax resistant meaning any decent/ good reality warper could kill him.

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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:22 am

pacz360 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:I have to agree that the spirit of the character dictates he can't lose. His entire character is about "What good is power, if nothing can ever challenge you." It's made Saitama empty inside as absolutely nothing can challenge him. He always holds back if there might be a fight he can enjoy even just for a bit. He's the anti shonen character. While Goku strives to be the best, Saitama is the best. If Goku were Saitama, then he too would probably get extremely bored and feel little joy in life.
As i said going by his universe logic sure but put him against goku,superman,thor,hulk,thanos,seiya etc in a neutral site he is gonna lose due how powerful these guys are the guys saitama fought while strong are no where impressive to guys mentioned here faced not to mention his lack of hax resistant meaning any decent/ good reality warper could kill him.
Saitama is hax incarnate. He's essentially just like Squirrel Girl as they both have the same shtick.
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Post by rereboy » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:42 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:
There isn't a special quality about Saitama's world that gives him super powers; the point of the character is that he can beat anyone with one punch. That's the joke...

If you write him into a story and don't follow that rule, then you're not being faithful to the character.
Anyone with one punch in his own series, not every single character in every series ever (and even in his own manga, he has already faced enemies that he couldn't defeat with just one punch).

That "rule" only applies to his own universe.

We are not being unfaithful to the character by saying, for example, that he couldn't beat The One Above All from Marvel, which is basically God and is omnipotent. The same logic applies to any other character that seems likely to be more powerful than Onepunch-man.

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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:28 am

rereboy wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:
There isn't a special quality about Saitama's world that gives him super powers; the point of the character is that he can beat anyone with one punch. That's the joke...

If you write him into a story and don't follow that rule, then you're not being faithful to the character.
Anyone with one punch in his own series, not every single character in every series ever (and even in his own manga, he has already faced enemies that he couldn't defeat with just one punch).

That "rule" only applies to his own universe.

We are not being unfaithful to the character by saying, for example, that he couldn't beat The One Above All from Marvel, which is basically God and is omnipotent. The same logic applies to any other character that seems likely to be more powerful than Onepunch-man.
This is true. Someone used the example of Freeza or Vegeta being in part 1 Dragonball, they would be just as dominant over everyone as Saitama is in his series, but that doesn't make them completely unbeatable. Of course since the series is hardly close to being over, we have no idea how strong Saitama actually is, but the whole "he beats everyone in his own series so he's unbeatable to everyone from every other series" attitude is just silly.

Not that I don't mind the crossover... he could one-shot Whis and Vados or lose to Raditz and I wouldn't mind if it was amusing to read.
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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:05 am

Frieza and Vegeta have limits. The difference here is that Saitama is, essentially, limitless. Everything Screw Attack said in the Goku vs Superman fight about the latter basically applies more to Saitama because that is where the humor of the series--the overall premise--derives from. Every single battle Saitama is in is meant to end with a punch line (emphasis on "punch").

> Strongest being in the universe arrives on Earth to fulfill a prophecy that states he'd fight someone who could finally fight evenly with him? Gets one-shotted. Punch line: The prophecy was way off; his opponent was infinitely stronger than him.

> Student turned god is easily beaten, rambles on--in typicial Shonen fashion--about how absolute evil is the only real way to provide justice, and questions Saitama's views on heroism. Punch line: Saitama picks his nose and bluntly states it's just a hobby.

If you cross him over and don't follow this rule, you are not being faithful to the spirit of the character. And yes, if the One-Above-All wasn't an abstract being, Saitama could one-shot him because... that's funny! This is just the way he's meant to be written.

And FYI, Saitama can beat everyone in his manga with one punch. He heavily restrains himself against non-monsters. That, or they manage to survive through means of regeneration.
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Re: One Punch Man and Dragon Ball crossover

Post by pacz360 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:59 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:Freeza and Vegeta have limits. The difference here is that Saitama is, essentially, limitless. Everything Screw Attack said in the Goku vs Superman fight about the latter basically applies more to Saitama because that is where the humor of the series--the overall premise--derives from. Every single battle Saitama is in is meant to end with a punch line (emphasis on "punch").

> Strongest being in the universe arrives on Earth to fulfill a prophecy that states he'd fight someone who could finally fight evenly with him? Gets one-shotted. Punch line: The prophecy was way off; his opponent was infinitely stronger than him.

> Student turned god is easily beaten, rambles on--in typicial Shonen fashion--about how absolute evil is the only real way to provide justice, and questions Saitama's views on heroism. Punch line: Saitama picks his nose and bluntly states it's just a hobby.

If you cross him over and don't follow this rule, you are not being faithful to the spirit of the character. And yes, if the One-Above-All wasn't an abstract being, Saitama could one-shot him because... that's funny! This is just the way he's meant to be written.

And FYI, Saitama can beat everyone in his manga with one punch. He heavily restrains himself against non-monsters. That, or they manage to survive through means of regeneration.
That doesn't mean he could beat anyone outside his verse plus he not exactly limitless considering boros survived a hit from and he had to use a certain amount even while holding back against boros attack going by feats the shit he done is not impressive to the likes of goku and superman shit that not even impressive to even half of fiction.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:08 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Freeza and Vegeta have limits. The difference here is that Saitama is, essentially, limitless. Everything Screw Attack said in the Goku vs Superman fight about the latter basically applies more to Saitama because that is where the humor of the series--the overall premise--derives from. Every single battle Saitama is in is meant to end with a punch line (emphasis on "punch").
My point was that, against much weaker opponents, Freeza and Vegeta would equally appear to have no limits, because their limits wouldn't be anywhere close to being reached.

I mean I love the anime/manga, but people who act like he's unbeatable to anyone from any series just ruin my enjoyment of it... much like people who claim Goku or Superman can beat anyone.
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