Viz dragonball manga?

[Chaos Saiyajin]

Dragonball, Volume 1 - What can be noted here is that Bulma is given a "Valley Girl" manner of speech which quickly fades as the volume proceeds. Her speech is normal from there on out.

Dragonball, Volume 4 - At the end of a Chapter, when it appears Goku may lose to Giran, a panel has the cheesy addition text "Is this the end of Goku?! Then how do you explain Dragonball Z??!".

Dragonball, Volume 5 - The character "Sgt. Metallic" has his name changed to "Full Metal Jacket" and the monster called "Buyo" or "Buyon" is changed to "The Jiggler".

Dragonball, Volume 6 - Goku's nick name for #8 is changed from "Ha-Chan" (Little Eight) to "8-Man".

Dragonball, Volume 14 - Mr. Popo's lips are colored in black to match his face, to reduce his resemblence to "Sanbo" which is a long story. Basically, it's to avoid offending African-Americans. This change is retained for every appearance of Mr. Popo for the rest of the series.

tankobon #18 / Dragonball Z, Volume 2 - Piccolo's threat to Gohan "I'll bash in your skull!" is changed to "I'll slit your throat!".

tankobon #31 / Dragonball Z, Volume 15 - "Hell Flash" is changed to "Inferno Blast". Also, a title page in which various members of the Dragon Team flipping Cell off is altered to them "Clenching their fists angrily". At this point in the series, cussing seems to stop entirely, whereas "Bastard" "Ass" "Damn" and "Hell" were all used frequently before.

tankobon #33 / Dragonball Z, Volume 17 - "Mister Satan" is changed to "Her-cule". This stays the same for the rest of the series.

tankobon #35 / Dragonball Z, Volume 19 - #17's gun is removed from the 2nd to last chapter, which he uses to shoot a man in the face. The alteration gives the impression that #17 opted to crush the guys skull instead.

tankobon #37 / Dragonball Z, Volume 21 - "Majin Boo" is changed to "Boo the Djinn". This change is retained for the rest of the series.

tankobon #40 / Dragonball Z, Volume 24 - The guns used by the Random Criminals to shoot the old couple, Boo's dog, and Mister Satan are all changed to look like "Laser Blasters". Also, Goku's offer to Rou Kaioshin to feel up Bulma is changed to meeting her.

"Chi" vs. "Ki" - Viz opts to use the term "Chi" as opposed to "Ki". But in all honesty, "Ki" is a more accurate term and "Chi" isn't exactly the same thing...technicially.

The last two volumes - Dragonball Z Volumes 25 and 26 have not yet been released, so any and all changes that may occur are not yet known. However, based on the content, one can guess that the only changes will be the ones that carry from volume to volume.

Dragonball Re-issues - In the latest re-issues of Dragonball, all instances of Bulma being full frontal naked from the waste up is altered to have a bra. And no, the cussing isn't removed from the re-issues.

That kinda shit just pisses me off dammit! What the fuck? #17 can't have a gun? Next thing you know we'll being seing water guns in One Piece. . .

[DBZ MAN]

What duo has wrote is basicaly my reason why I don't like the viz comics of DB/Z. I mean what is the point of tampering with something if it was never inteneded for that audience?
Next thing you know in 10 years time they will release the 'Ultimate Uncut Special Tradepaper back'. "Yes! the way it was meant to be read!! Intact letter colums and with no visual content taken out!".

[Super Sonic]

Dragonball, Volume 6 - Goku's nick name for #8 is changed from "Ha-Chan" (Little Eight) to "8-Man".

That is just a translation. Similar to how Funi called him "Eighter" in the dub.

[kevin449]

What duo has wrote is basicaly my reason why I don't like the viz comics of DB/Z. I mean what is the point of tampering with something if it was never inteneded for that audience?
Next thing you know in 10 years time they will release the 'Ultimate Uncut Special Tradepaper back'. "Yes! the way it was meant to be read!! Intact letter colums and with no visual content taken out!".

I would definitely buy those!

[Duo]

Ohkay...

Maybe it was a different part of the manga then? *blinks*

Scouters started exploding at 23,000

Perhaps I forgot how small a million was ^^;

The problem with the discuission was that we can't even compare book numbers, letalone page numbers. *shrug* thanks for the info.

That's kinda' plot-holing to me. Vegeta couldn't beat Ginyu (who was scared by Goku's 180,000) yet could beat Freeza at 530,000? Yeesh

The "updated" scouters that the Ginyu Force used could scan Power readings AT LEAST as high as 180,000.

And that was after Vegeta experienced an incredibly potent "Near-Death Powerup" which put him from weaker than Reacoom to almost at Freeza's first stage power level, which is a heck of an increase, however undeniable.

I'm a power level / strength relations freak...in case you didn't realize yet, lol.

That kinda shit just pisses me off dammit! What the fuck? #17 can't have a gun? Next thing you know we'll being seing water guns in One Piece. . .

It could (and may become) a lot worse. At this point none of the Edits are very significant, don't affect the story, and have been few enough in number to keep track of effectively.

What duo has wrote is basicaly my reason why I don't like the viz comics of DB/Z. I mean what is the point of tampering with something if it was never inteneded for that audience?
Next thing you know in 10 years time they will release the 'Ultimate Uncut Special Tradepaper back'. "Yes! the way it was meant to be read!! Intact letter colums and with no visual content taken out!".

Well...Viz isn't Funi, so there's no way to predict such a thing. And I still love Viz's Dragonball and Dragonball Z Manga, so long as I can keep track of the alterations. As long as I know, it doesn't piss me off enough not to buy them. I don't want to learn Japanese.

That is just a translation. Similar to how Funi called him "Eighter" in the dub.

Pffft. "Ha-Chan" owns both of them in every way. He should have been called that or "Little Eight". Anything else just doesn't have the same little Son Goku charm, especially when you hear it from (I won't even try to spell her name) playing Goku in the JP version.

[DaemonCorps]

That kinda shit just pisses me off dammit! What the fuck? #17 can't have a gun? Next thing you know we'll being seing water guns in One Piece. . .

Well, actually, if you pay attention to the 4Kids dub, a bunch of the guns have been changed to some kind of strange weapons, where they've kept the handle of the gun, but changed the rest to look like the handle is connected to some kind of green punching bag . Similar stuff has been done to guns in Zatchbell, but interestingly enough, not in DBZ when the gunners attack Satan and the puppy.

A sidenote: how come whenever a gun is being "censored out" in an anime, they change its color so it looks like it's giving off some kind of radioactive green glow? (eeewww...).

Don't forget guns. They changed the guns those people-hunters used into laser guns.

Yeah, I just bought that volume yesterday, and noticed that the gun blasts were all connected to look more like a laser than, well, a gun. Also, I noticed the whole gun of the blonde gunner was changed at the tip to look like a little trumpet . And the whole sound effects thing with the weapons-- ZAP?! Whatever, I digress. I would only be really PO'd if Viz changed stuff to the point that it wasn't even DBZ anymore...

Dragonball Re-issues - In the latest re-issues of Dragonball, all instances of Bulma being full frontal naked from the waste up is altered to have a bra. And no, the cussing isn't removed from the re-issues.

Well, I found that kinda odd, since they didn't do anything to Bulma in the re-issues of Vol. 1 (shower scene).

Seriously, if people don't want kids seeing this, change the rating of the manga !! (refer to my previous post).

[DBZ MAN]

Well...Viz isn't Funi, so there's no way to predict such a thing. And I still love Viz's Dragonball and Dragonball Z Manga, so long as I can keep track of the alterations. As long as I know, it doesn't piss me off enough not to buy them. I don't want to learn Japanese.

Oh I know Viz isin't Funi, I was just making a joke that it's an idea to bring in more profit (Which I know they won't do that...I hope).

NOTE: I also know that Funi did it only because they didn't have the rights previosly and that it was not entirely a profit attempt.

[DaemonCorps]

Well...Viz isn't Funi, so there's no way to predict such a thing. And I still love Viz's Dragonball and Dragonball Z Manga, so long as I can keep track of the alterations. As long as I know, it doesn't piss me off enough not to buy them. I don't want to learn Japanese.

Oh I know Viz isin't Funi, I was just making a joke that it's an idea to bring in more profit (Which I know they won't do that...I hope).

NOTE: I also know that Funi did it only because they didn't have the rights previosly and that it was not entirely a profit attempt.

They'll probably do something like that if Viz ever releases the Kanzenban.

[Tsukento]

Dragonball, Volume 6 - Goku's nick name for #8 is changed from "Ha-Chan" (Little Eight) to "8-Man".

That is just a translation. Similar to how Funi called him "Eighter" in the dub.

Correction, that's a name change, not a translation. Either way, it's a change made from the original.

[Super Sonic]

That is just a translation. Similar to how Funi called him "Eighter" in the dub.

Pffft. "Ha-Chan" owns both of them in every way. He should have been called that or "Little Eight". Anything else just doesn't have the same little Son Goku charm, especially when you hear it from (I won't even try to spell her name) playing Goku in the JP version.

Perhaps, but you realize the Hachan pun wouldn't work in the dub and to me "Little Eight" just sounds corny.

[Eclipse]

You know, the way things are going on, I wouldn't be suprised if the entire Earth didn't 'blow up'.

tankobon #37 / Dragonball Z, Volume 21 - "Majin Boo" is changed to "Boo the Djinn". This change is retained for the rest of the series.

What about that Bobbidi thing? Dunno if that's on purpose or not...

And I"m still amazed......How DID Viz DO THIS?! Pokemon, Dragon Ball, Dr.Slump, Naruto...the censored volumes list goes on and on......let's just hope Bleach , (as well as everything else. EVERYTHING!) will be left alone, both in anime dub and manga (since Viz owns both licenses)

Also, a title page in which various members of the Dragon Team flipping Cell off is altered to them "Clenching their fists angrily".

Would that, by any chance be the title page with the name "16 vs Cell?"

[Tatsunoboshi Horoko]

Dragonball, Volume 6 - Goku's nick name for #8 is changed from "Ha-Chan" (Little Eight) to "8-Man".

That is just a translation. Similar to how Funi called him "Eighter" in the dub.

Correction, that's a name change, not a translation. Either way, it's a change made from the original.

Actually, depending on the context of the nickname? It's actually a pretty good translation from Japanese to English. Usually, "chan" is a sort of way to make a name "cuter" (like a mother with a daughter named Susan calling her Suzie.)

[Tsukento]

Perhaps, but you realize the Hachan pun wouldn't work in the dub and to me "Little Eight" just sounds corny.

Unlike the dub anime, Viz can use notes to point out Japanese terms and puns. They've done it before, especially when Roshi heard Chi-Chi's name. :s

[Super Sonic]

Perhaps, but you realize the Hachan pun wouldn't work in the dub and to me "Little Eight" just sounds corny.

Unlike the dub anime, Viz can use notes to point out Japanese terms and puns. They've done it before, especially when Roshi heard Chi-Chi's name. :s

True, but for it to fit, they would've just called him Jinzoningen Hatchi instead of "Mechanical Man #8".

[kevin449]

Anyway I find the jiggler more funny than its original name. For example there was a title page that said "How to unjiggle a jiggler" It was hilarious. Either way it's not that far from the japanese version than funimations dubbing.

[Tsukento]

True, but for it to fit, they would've just called him Jinzoningen Hatchi instead of "Mechanical Man #8".

Not necessarily. They could have still went with what they had until Goku decided to nickname him and explain what the "Ha" part meant when refering to him as Ha-chan.

[Caracal]

How long as he in the series for? Five, six chapters? In my humble opinion I don't see a problem with a minor name change for a character who's around for such a short amount of time. Plus as already stated, Viz would have to explain what the name means and I don't think they had enough room to do that.

Frankly I learn to live with what changes Viz make. Some are OK (Zolo instead of Zoro, Rougetown instead of Loguetown) and some I feel aren't really needed (Hercule instead of Mr. Satan). But thankfully they often seem to use the exact names i.e. most of the Shaman King names, Smoker etc.

[Super Sonic]

It seems that Viz only gets on things regarding the SJ line. Ranma and Inuyasha are untouched.

[Sebastian (SB)]

It seems that Viz only gets on things regarding the SJ line. Ranma and Inuyasha are untouched.

Interestingly the same person whom adapted the DragonBall Manga (Gerard Jones), also does Ranma 1/2 so why wouldn't he leave DragonBall "untouched". The only theory I can come up with is that it's something out of his control & it's Viz more or less calling the shots to some degree.

[El_Diablo]

Ranma and Inuyasha are flipped.