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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by Doctor. » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:47 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:The RRA itself with Commander Red and all them wasn't very dark on its own. Only the story of Dr. Gero is dark. He should just star in his own story and the RRA can be a side thing for comic relief. The story could be dark with Gero up to his own machinations, but every once in awhile he has to visit RRA HQ just to check-in and they're all idiots.
When I wrote "Red Ribbon Army," I was actually, more or less, referring to the Path to Power incarnation of the organization. I'd like this story to be dark like History of Trunks, and involve Gero's personal relationship with the organization, rather than its actual origin.

Honestly, whenever I see these topics about hypothetical story ideas, I tend to base my answers on ideas of mine I'd like to be a reality. Not so much what I'd like coming from Toei or Toriyama, since that'll never match what I want. lol.
In my headcanon, Gero gets forced to work for the Red Ribbon Army due to how intelligent he is and his son tries to destroy the organization from the inside. His son, however, gets killed when Goku invades the army base, which is what prompts Gero to pursue revenge against him in the first place and why #16 is such a good person.
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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by precita » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:48 pm

Mr. Popo is literally the only character who is there but makes no sense. Like WHY is he with Kami as the second in command for the guardian of the Earth? He doesn't seem to be an alien nor earthling, he's all black with pointy ears and he dresses in arabian style. Like who or what is he?

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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:19 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:The RRA itself with Commander Red and all them wasn't very dark on its own. Only the story of Dr. Gero is dark. He should just star in his own story and the RRA can be a side thing for comic relief. The story could be dark with Gero up to his own machinations, but every once in awhile he has to visit RRA HQ just to check-in and they're all idiots.
When I wrote "Red Ribbon Army," I was actually, more or less, referring to the Path to Power incarnation of the organization. I'd like this story to be dark like History of Trunks, and involve Gero's personal relationship with the organization, rather than its actual origin.

Honestly, whenever I see these topics about hypothetical story ideas, I tend to base my answers on ideas of mine I'd like to be a reality. Not so much what I'd like coming from Toei or Toriyama, since that'll never match what I want. lol.
In my headcanon, Gero gets forced to work for the Red Ribbon Army due to how intelligent he is and his son tries to destroy the organization from the inside. His son, however, gets killed when Goku invades the army base.
The way I see his story, it's something along the lines of a man whose genius and inventions garner him the adulation of millions, but he's always placed second behind the only person who surpasses his own intellect: Dr. Brief. This creates a sense of disdain, but it's his his desire to help his son combat an illness that creates an obsession with initiating an android/cyborg program he can use to create a more efficient body for him--something deemed too controversial and shut down in whatever place he initially worked at. This leads to a secret affiliation with the RRA (or maybe he helps co-create it), which grants him the resources (and human bodies) he needs in exchange for their own killing machines. The sense of power acquired in the RRA slowly creates a desire to overtake it completely, but his primary focus is his son.

After Goku single-handedly dismantles the organization, the public finds out about Gero's connection with the army, ruining his reputation, and his ill son, who may have "joined" the army to uncover his father's secret, stop him, and somehow destroy the RRA from the inside, is shot down by one of the red ribbon's enemies while the organization was vulnerable. Gero's life is ruined, and he flees from the eyes of the public, becoming mentally unstable, pitting all the blame on Goku, obsessing over the boy's abilities for years to come, and redirecting the original purpose of his android initiative.
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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by nickzambuto » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:28 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:The RRA itself with Commander Red and all them wasn't very dark on its own. Only the story of Dr. Gero is dark. He should just star in his own story and the RRA can be a side thing for comic relief. The story could be dark with Gero up to his own machinations, but every once in awhile he has to visit RRA HQ just to check-in and they're all idiots.
When I wrote "Red Ribbon Army," I was actually, more or less, referring to the Path to Power incarnation of the organization. I'd like this story to be dark like History of Trunks, and involve Gero's personal relationship with the organization, rather than its actual origin.

Honestly, whenever I see these topics about hypothetical story ideas, I tend to base my answers on ideas of mine I'd like to be a reality. Not so much what I'd like coming from Toei or Toriyama, since that'll never match what I want. lol.
Agreed, I find my own headcanon to be extremely interesting and King Cold and Dr. Gero have become two of my favorite characters just because of it =P

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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by nickzambuto » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:34 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:
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fadeddreams5 wrote:
When I wrote "Red Ribbon Army," I was actually, more or less, referring to the Path to Power incarnation of the organization. I'd like this story to be dark like History of Trunks, and involve Gero's personal relationship with the organization, rather than its actual origin.

Honestly, whenever I see these topics about hypothetical story ideas, I tend to base my answers on ideas of mine I'd like to be a reality. Not so much what I'd like coming from Toei or Toriyama, since that'll never match what I want. lol.
In my headcanon, Gero gets forced to work for the Red Ribbon Army due to how intelligent he is and his son tries to destroy the organization from the inside. His son, however, gets killed when Goku invades the army base.
The way I see his story, it's something along the lines of a man whose genius and inventions garner him the adulation of millions, but he's always placed second behind the only person who surpasses his own intellect: Dr. Brief. This creates a sense of disdain, but it's his his desire to help his son combat an illness that creates an obsession with initiating an android/cyborg program he can use to create a more efficient body for him--something deemed too controversial and shut down in whatever place he initially worked at. This leads to a secret affiliation with the RRA (or maybe he helps co-create it), which grants him the resources (and human bodies) he needs in exchange for their own killing machines. The sense of power acquired in the RRA slowly creates a desire to overtake it completely, but his primary focus is his son.

After Goku single-handedly dismantles the organization, the public finds out about Gero's connection with the army, ruining his reputation, and his ill son, who may have "joined" the army to uncover his father's secret, stop him, and somehow destroy the RRA from the inside, is shot down by one of the red ribbon's enemies while the organization was vulnerable. Gero's life is ruined, and he flees from the eyes of the public, becoming mentally unstable, pitting all the blame on Goku, obsessing over the boy's abilities for years to come, and redirecting the original purpose of his android initiative.
This is what I'm talking about. Everything we know about Dr. Gero from life till death can be summed up in a paragraph, yet it's all so fucking interesting. The wasted potential in Dr. Gero is bittersweet, it's unfortunate that a character whose abilities lied in his intelligence was outside of Toriyama's convert zone, but at the same time it leaves the door open for fans' imagination and headcanon.

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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by TheUltimateVegito » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:00 pm

Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:The RRA itself with Commander Red and all them wasn't very dark on its own. Only the story of Dr. Gero is dark. He should just star in his own story and the RRA can be a side thing for comic relief. The story could be dark with Gero up to his own machinations, but every once in awhile he has to visit RRA HQ just to check-in and they're all idiots.
When I wrote "Red Ribbon Army," I was actually, more or less, referring to the Path to Power incarnation of the organization. I'd like this story to be dark like History of Trunks, and involve Gero's personal relationship with the organization, rather than its actual origin.

Honestly, whenever I see these topics about hypothetical story ideas, I tend to base my answers on ideas of mine I'd like to be a reality. Not so much what I'd like coming from Toei or Toriyama, since that'll never match what I want. lol.
In my headcanon, Gero gets forced to work for the Red Ribbon Army due to how intelligent he is and his son tries to destroy the organization from the inside. His son, however, gets killed when Goku invades the army base, which is what prompts Gero to pursue revenge against him in the first place and why #16 is such a good person.
To be honest, I'd much rather have it be so that Dr. Gero loved working for the RRA like it originally was because it emphasises the duality between Goku and Dr. Gero, since both of them loved their work.
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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by Doctor. » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:02 pm

TheUltimateVegito wrote:To be honest, I'd much rather have it be so that Dr. Gero loved working for the RRA like it originally was because it emphasises the duality between Goku and Dr. Gero, since both of them loved their work.
His work is creating androids. It doesn't mean he couldn't have loved working on technology and hated working for the Red Ribbon, honestly. But I guess it wouldn't make much sense as to why he adopted the RRA brand that way.

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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by voltlunok » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:15 pm

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TheUltimateVegito wrote:To be honest, I'd much rather have it be so that Dr. Gero loved working for the RRA like it originally was because it emphasises the duality between Goku and Dr. Gero, since both of them loved their work.
His work is creating androids. It doesn't mean he couldn't have loved working on technology and hated working for the Red Ribbon, honestly. But I guess it wouldn't make much sense as to why he adopted the RRA brand that way.
An issue I see with him hating that he works for the RRA is that his son was an officer in the RRA. I don't think he'd be working against his will but be all "Yeah son, it's cool if you work for this army that forces me to make these androids for them!" if anything I think Gero probably was a influential member and that allowed him to bring his son into the organization. Though I could possibly see him growing to hate the RRA after his son is felled by a stray bullet and even a hate for Goku if he was tied to said bullet in anyway...wait didn't Yamcha have a machine gun in the RRA arc?...no...I'm probably over thinking this now.

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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by TheUltimateVegito » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:16 am

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TheUltimateVegito wrote:To be honest, I'd much rather have it be so that Dr. Gero loved working for the RRA like it originally was because it emphasises the duality between Goku and Dr. Gero, since both of them loved their work.
His work is creating androids. It doesn't mean he couldn't have loved working on technology and hated working for the Red Ribbon, honestly. But I guess it wouldn't make much sense as to why he adopted the RRA brand that way.
Yes, but both of their love stems from where they came from. They both loved their main place of work because of how well it treated them. Goku loves and wants to represent earth and Dr. Gero loves and wants to represent the RRA. It's even reflected on the clothes they wore.

If they're to give Dr. Gero's backstory, they should make it that Dr. Gero was actually in a bad place/position before the RRA recruited him, similar to how Goku came from a bad place (Planet Vegeta).
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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by Marco Polo » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:44 am

Dr Gero is interesting because he connects early DB to DBZ, and there's the possibility that he knew Dr. Brief and Omori, thus tying to Jaco the Galactic Patrolman too.

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Post by nickzambuto » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:44 pm

TheUltimateVegito wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:
When I wrote "Red Ribbon Army," I was actually, more or less, referring to the Path to Power incarnation of the organization. I'd like this story to be dark like History of Trunks, and involve Gero's personal relationship with the organization, rather than its actual origin.

Honestly, whenever I see these topics about hypothetical story ideas, I tend to base my answers on ideas of mine I'd like to be a reality. Not so much what I'd like coming from Toei or Toriyama, since that'll never match what I want. lol.
In my headcanon, Gero gets forced to work for the Red Ribbon Army due to how intelligent he is and his son tries to destroy the organization from the inside. His son, however, gets killed when Goku invades the army base, which is what prompts Gero to pursue revenge against him in the first place and why #16 is such a good person.
To be honest, I'd much rather have it be so that Dr. Gero loved working for the RRA like it originally was because it emphasises the duality between Goku and Dr. Gero, since both of them loved their work.
I definitely agree with you. Dr. Gero should not be a tragic figure, in that he could have been a good man. He should be the reverse of Goku.

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Re: Whose backstory do you want to know the most?

Post by Noah » Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:50 pm

Definitely Dr. Maki Gero backstory... I think he is one of the most interesting characters that I would like to see in a OVA, the premise would be amazing:

- Explaining how was his earlier days back in RR Army

- How he secret planned his revenge against Goku,

- His failed android prototypes (Android 1-7, Android 9-12)

- The kidnapping of Lapis and Lazuli,

- How he build a infinite energy reactor within the cyborgs

- Cell's creation

- His desires for the future and etc.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:40 pm

Beerus/Whis relationsip.
How did they meet?! How Beerus become God of Destruction?! Did he beat the previous one?! Who was?!

Lapis/Lazuli becoming cyborgs against their will.
It would give a good drama. If this was One Piece/Naruto, we would have got it right away.

Or just make one about Dr Gero and explain everything:
Noah wrote:Definitely Dr. Maki Gero backstory... I think he is one of the most interesting characters that I would like to see in a OVA, the premise would be amazing:

- Explaining how was his earlier days back in RR Army

- How he secret planned his revenge against Goku,

- His failed android prototypes (Android 1-7, Android 9-12)

- The kidnapping of Lapis and Lazuli,

- How he build a infinite energy reactor within the cyborgs

- Cell's creation

- His desires for the future and etc.
This has too many potential for a Great OVA.
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Post by Scarlet Spider » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:43 pm

Lapis/Lazuli.
Bardock/Gine/Raditz, I need a lot more, sorry.
Frieza/King Cold.
King Vegeta/Vegeta.
Future Gohan, I at least want to see what he went through as he grew up.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:19 am

Bojack and his crew.
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Post by Hugo Boss » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:11 pm

Whis. We hardly know anything about him or his race and how they did to get along with the Gods of Destruction.

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Post by Gligarman » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:33 am

Yajirobe. Hell I'd like to know his current story. He pretty much just gets reduced to senzu delivery boy after a while.

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Post by Hitiro » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:59 am

Doctor. wrote:In my headcanon, Gero gets forced to work for the Red Ribbon Army due to how intelligent he is and his son tries to destroy the organization from the inside. His son, however, gets killed when Goku invades the army base, which is what prompts Gero to pursue revenge against him in the first place and why #16 is such a good person.
The issue with this is Goku would not randomly kill someone who isn't attacking him. If the RRA troops gunned his son down then surely Gero's rage would be with the members of the RRA. Also if Gero was forced into working for the RRA and he wasn't actually a bad guy at the start then honestly it would make no sense for Gero to slaughter a whole town in the Android arc.

As for whose backstory I want to know most I would have to say Whis at the moment. I'd like to find out how/why he became Beerus is attendant. Was he actually the previous God of Destruction? Where does his time ability come from? And how is he so strong?

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:13 pm

I'd like to see Gohan's life when Goten was first born

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Post by mabalia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:59 pm

Ox King - I want to see how he became a warlord. I bet that was after his training with Roshi and Gohan, because Roshi was so selective of his disciples he wouldn't train someone bad. Something happened to him that made him turn to the dark side.
Uranai Baba - I want to know how was her training to become a powerful witch with conections to the Other World. I wonder if she drank the same elixir that grants imortality like her brother did.
Dr. Briefs - how was the fondation of Capsule Corporation and how he romanced his air head wife.
Raditz - how the litle third class saiyan managed to survive growing up with Vegeta, Napa and the rest of Freeza's soldiers.

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