Why are people against Cell being solar system buster?

[RandomGuy96]

As far as I see it the only reason people believe the former is because other characters later did destroy planets whereas nobody ever destroyed a Solar System so there was no proof that it could be done.

Cell destroys the solar system in a "what-if" story in one of the games.

[Tsufuru]

the only argument ppl got is kid buu.

which was 100% for plot cuz goku alone could have deflected it especialy since it was not kid buu's full power.
yes , goku can turn ssj3 very fast at that time.

and implieing toriyama gives a damn about explosion size.

[Tonathan100]

the only argument ppl got is kid buu.

which was 100% for plot cuz goku alone could have deflected it especialy since it was not kid buu's full power.
yes , goku can turn ssj3 very fast at that time.

and implieing toriyama gives a damn about explosion size.

Except for the fact that Kid Buu clearly wasn't holding back on that blast. It only seemed like it wasn't his full power because he didn't tire while doing it, which is solely due to his infinite stamina.

[The Monkey King]

the only argument ppl got is kid buu.

which was 100% for plot cuz goku alone could have deflected it especialy since it was not kid buu's full power.
yes , goku can turn ssj3 very fast at that time.

and implieing toriyama gives a damn about explosion size.

Except for the fact that Kid Buu clearly wasn't holding back on that blast. It only seemed like it wasn't his full power because he didn't tire while doing it, which is solely due to his infinite stamina.

Please stop asserting your head canon as fact.

According to the Daizenshuu Buu fired that attack with ease:



And I'll take the word of that over what you made up.

[Tsufuru]

the only argument ppl got is kid buu.

which was 100% for plot cuz goku alone could have deflected it especialy since it was not kid buu's full power.
yes , goku can turn ssj3 very fast at that time.

and implieing toriyama gives a damn about explosion size.

Except for the fact that Kid Buu clearly wasn't holding back on that blast. It only seemed like it wasn't his full power because he didn't tire while doing it, which is solely due to his infinite stamina.

how does kod buu's whole existence in that scene show that he "cleary" wasnt holding back?

[dbzfan7]

As far as I see it the only reason people believe the former is because other characters later did destroy planets whereas nobody ever destroyed a Solar System so there was no proof that it could be done.

Cell destroys the solar system in a "what-if" story in one of the games.

I just go with this. I doubt he can create an explosion wide enough on it's own to engulf the the solar system. I kinda go with Cell being a small star buster since that's all he needs to be able to destroy most of the mass of the solar system.

[Tsufuru]

why cant he?

[RandomGuy96]

the only argument ppl got is kid buu.

which was 100% for plot cuz goku alone could have deflected it especialy since it was not kid buu's full power.
yes , goku can turn ssj3 very fast at that time.

and implieing toriyama gives a damn about explosion size.

Except for the fact that Kid Buu clearly wasn't holding back on that blast. It only seemed like it wasn't his full power because he didn't tire while doing it, which is solely due to his infinite stamina.

Vegeta explicitly states that Buu wasn't at full power until he fought Goku.

Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P12.6
Vegeta: “The truth is you were right [that I’d be killed by Boo]. That Boo is stronger than I imagined…"

[Tonathan100]

Vegeta explicitly states that Buu wasn't at full power until he fought Goku.

Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P12.6
Vegeta: “The truth is you were right [that I’d be killed by Boo]. That Boo is stronger than I imagined…"

That quote doesn't at all imply that Buu wasn't at full power until he fought Goku. All it shows is that Vegeta was astounded by Buu's power.

[RandomGuy96]

Vegeta explicitly states that Buu wasn't at full power until he fought Goku.

Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P12.6
Vegeta: “The truth is you were right [that I’d be killed by Boo]. That Boo is stronger than I imagined…"

That quote doesn't at all imply that Buu wasn't at full power until he fought Goku. All it shows is that Vegeta was astounded by Buu's power.

He sensed Buu's power earlier, yet says Buu is stronger than he previously thought. That's pretty clear-cut.

[Tonathan100]

He sensed Buu's power earlier, yet says Buu is stronger than he previously thought. That's pretty clear-cut.

Except that he said this after fighting Kid Buu, when before he was cocky. The "that Boo is stronger than I imagined…" line is simply Vegeta doing away with his preconceived notions of his ability to hold his own against Kid Buu.

[RandomGuy96]

He sensed Buu's power earlier, yet says Buu is stronger than he previously thought. That's pretty clear-cut.

Except that he said this after fighting Kid Buu, when before he was cocky. The "that Boo is stronger than I imagined…" line is simply Vegeta doing away with his preconceived notions of his ability to hold his own against Kid Buu.

He didn't say this is after fighting Buu.

[Darkprince410]

He sensed Buu's power earlier, yet says Buu is stronger than he previously thought. That's pretty clear-cut.

Except that he said this after fighting Kid Buu, when before he was cocky. The "that Boo is stronger than I imagined…" line is simply Vegeta doing away with his preconceived notions of his ability to hold his own against Kid Buu.

No, he said that before he stepped in to try and give Goku a minute to gather his ki back up in his Super Saiya-jin 3 form. At that point, Vegeta hadn't fought that form of Buu yet, and his comment about Buu's power was solely from what he sensed, not from what he actually experienced. As such, there's no way he used his full power when he threw the blast that destroyed the Earth.

[smiley]

With all the indredible showings of destructive capacity from Dragon Ball Super, there's no reason to think Cell couldn't destroy a solar system.

[EvilSeru]

Maybe if he went planet to planet and targeted each of their cores, but even then I have a hard time believing Cell could blow up a planet even as large as Jupiter.

[Captain Sauza]

I'll just repeat my definite view on this opinion:

If Toriyama writes for Cell to believe he is strong enough to destroy the Solar System in one blast, he can damn well do it.

So why is it that most of the DBZ fanbase refuses to accept that Goku in DBZ Movie 5 can defeat Freeza without going Super Saiyan when TOEI wrote for that to be the case?

[Lord Beerus]

I'll just repeat my definite view on this opinion:

If Toriyama writes for Cell to believe he is strong enough to destroy the Solar System in one blast, he can damn well do it.

So why is it that most of the DBZ fanbase refuses to accept that Goku in DBZ Movie 5 can defeat Freeza without going Super Saiyan when TOEI wrote for that to be the case?

I've... never really came across this opinion before, so I can't really comment on it. This is genuinely the first time I've heard such an opinion and I had no idea it even existed.

[Polyphase Avatron]

TBH Movie 5 Goku seemed a lot weaker than his canon self should have been at that point (unable to even go SSJ at will for example).